Here is what could be an interesting topic. What do you believe happens to "us" after we die?

Trew said:

Personal Beliefs
My view is that death is a sleep until Jesus comes and wakes us up on that great gettin' up morning.

Amazing how cancer can direct the thoughts to this topic. I remember coming back to the doctor's 7 days after prostate surgery. He informed me I had positive margins and that unless I had radiation I would die. I hardly remember hearing the words but my wife picked up on them. When we were going home afterwards I asked my wife what the doc has said, sort of like a dream, you know what I mean. During radiation the doctor told me my outlook was so/so, 50/50. Still a big step up from "will die." Anyway, life does look different on this side of cancer. Sort of like a mountain top experience with an extended view.

PhillieG said:

Dear EVERYONE
This thread, and the forum for that matter, was set up so we can discuss the topics of Religion, Spirituality, and Meditation without fear of being attacked on a personal level for what we choose to believe and to have respect for the beliefs of others. For the MOST part, I think we have done that. There have been discussions and people have questioned others, sometimes to learn more, other times it seems to have the believer possibly question themselves. I can't speak for others at all so I do not know their reason why. Those are the reasons I post and comment.

It seems like we're getting back to the "disclaimer stage" again where we feel a need to state that it's "our opinion" and "no offense is intended". I hope we can try to get away from that. The point of this forum is to post our beliefs and opinions, however foreign they may seem to others. This is how people can learn about other faiths or schools of thought. I hope (and pray ;-) that we can maintain a level of respect for others on this part of the site at least. This is the sections where anything goes as far as what you believe, there are no right or wrong answers just what you believe.

I do hope that questions are raised to others if they want to find out more about why someone believes what they do. Of course, no one has to answer those questions either. If the discussion gets heated, remember what my Mom overheard in a playground in NYC when I was a kid.
Two Jewish Mothers were telling their kids to "fight nicely".
;-)
Peace out...
-phil

PhillieG said:

True, that's why it's over here
in this thread and not on the Main pages.

Thank you for sharing your touching story about your Mom. I have a similar one with my Dad. He had been in and out of consciousness for a few days prior to his passing. The night he died we all were around him but he was not responsive at all. I just started to massage his "third eye" in the middle of his forehead. After a few minutes he woke up and gained consciousness, we all got to talk with him even though he couldn't speak he knew what was going on.
Later that night he passed away.
-phil

visit more and share more too if you feel inclined to

PhillieG said:

Ok, ok...My Dream
I dreamed that I ate a GIANT marshmallow, when I woke up my pillow was gone!!!
Sorry, I couldn't resist being the immature person I am.

I do believe though in the presence of other "people/spirits" or whatever you wish to call them. I don't think it's just lights out, everyone go home when it's over. While I know I do not believe in the catholic teaching of heaven/hell/original sin/etc, I really do not know what happens to us after we die. I do think religion was created to explain the unexplainable (until science had to come along and ruin everything!) and also to keep people in line and get property and money etc....

But who knows, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right. I think as long as you are not hurting anyone you're probably doing OK.

RE said:

TIme to Share
Okay I am jumping in a bit late since this part of the tread happened in August but I will share one of the unique things that has happened to me. I have copied it from where I posted it on the bc board in Dec 08...here goes.

My sister passed away on Dec 15, 2007 sometime between 2:00 a.m. and 4 a.m. we were all there but none of us know the exact time. She was fascinated with things that lit up, toys, eye glasses that had lights in them to read (she called these her magic eyes and she made sure we all had a pair :-)) figurines that lit up and candles, oh how she loved candles. In her home she had at least 20 candles that she lit nightly, it was always beautiful and of course it smelled lovely. She also had a gorgeous heart shaped wreath that lights up which she gave to me day's before she passed saying she was sending her heart with me because she knew I would care for it and keep it lit, she was right.

I have told you this as a lead in to what has been happening in my home over the last week. Please read this with an open mind and heart and know that I am a very happy and stable woman (not a nut job). On my husbands side of the bed he has a touch sensitive lamp which has been there for a year and has functioned properly in all of that time. Well four nights ago it began turning on on its own the moment I would turn out my light to go to sleep; which is in most cases no earlier than 2:30 a.m. Now, I mean that I would close my eyes and the lamp would turn on. I thought how odd the first night and asked him to turn it off, it did it 6 more times till we finally just left it on. In the following days I have checked the light throughout the day and it has remained off. No further light shows occurred until last night, I closed my eyes and on came the light. I shut it off and that was the end of that. Tonight at 3:00 a.m. I turned my lamp out, got comfortable and closed my eyes, ping the room lit up. I asked my husband to turn the light out and he looked perplexed and checked his watch, it was then that I realized it is only turning on in the hours that she passed, in the month that she passed and it is a light and as I mentioned above she loved lights! I sobbed for a few moments and am still tearing a bit. It is just like her to want to soothe my pain of her loss by letting me know she is okay. I then vocally told her "I got it, I understand Susan it's you and you are okay. Once I acknowledged her it stopped happening Please understand that I am not making this up, I am in tears as I write this. I am trusting that you all will understand.

I am putting my reputation as a stable person on the line here. I hope this has not offended anyone as it is not my intention to push a spiritual aspect on anyone, it is just what is happening here and I wanted to share.

As I stated in my intro I wrote that on Dec 5, 2008, the lamp has never done that again and continues to function normally.

Thank you all for sharing your experiences which prompted me to do the same.

RE

papajedi said:

Yup
You are so right, sometimes ( I try to control it ) I get upset or jealous as I see people doing sport activities I use to be able to do............it's just hard to watch......:)

Lisa13Q said:

Question for the reigious here
If heaven is so great, and you truly believe in it, why aren't you all enthusiastic about going, and not joyful about dying? Personally, I don't think I can believe in heaven, if i did I would sure want to get there rather than endure this...

Marcia527 said:

I believe in the next life
I believe in the next life (Heaven if you want to call it that). I know it's better than this life but believe we need to wait till it's our time to pass over and shouldn't rush it. There are lessons to learn and we might be able to help another in some way. This life is really short if you compare it to eternity. No matter how sick I feel or problems I have, I can wait for my time. Besides I'm teaching my husband to cook...he knows how to make eggs now. :>)