Diet to bring down PSA

bdhilton said:

VGama
Is the glass half full or half empty? Attitude has a whole lot to do with not only survival but living a healthy and productive life in general. Did you ever think how aggressive your PCa would have been without these life time diets of yours?

Since you do not mention how your heat is doing I would assume great because of your diets…Cancer or heart related problems get most folks in the end…We all die but I choose to die as healthy as I can be…and guys get PCa in Asia and the Mediterranean countries that live on these diets too...just not in the same numbers...Peace

Scambuster said:

Food Labeling -RED ORANGE GREEN
The FDA is a long way off fixing the bad food pushers out there. It is very hard to 'scientifically prove' the exact negative impact on health at a cellular level hence the long wait we had till tobacco was finally 'scientifically proven' to be bad for us. Food is the same and on the other side, certain health supplements, herbs and foods that are in all likely hood very good for us or can even cure us, it is very hard (unless you spend many millions) to 'scientifically prove why they are good.

Jumping sideway now, I gather some states in the US and other countries have lobby groups pushing for the 'Traffic Light' food labeling to introduce and made mandatory. In brief junk foods high in free sugars, additives, fats etc are labeled with a red tag ( Sodas, cakes, sugar cereals, pop tarts, bacon, packet mix rubbish and condiments)

Foods that are not really that bad and also have some good like cereals, white rice, white breads, etc are given an orange tag and of course fresh fruit, fresh vegetables, pulses, whole-grains and whole-grain products (Brown, red and black rices), are all given the Green tag.

There would some fighting on where lean red meats and other animal product would land but you get the drift (fighting from the meat /poultry/ dairy industries' lobby groups).

As for my 5 cents worth, as a cancer survivor with the intention or remaining one, I shop in my imaginary Green zone only (we haven't got the labeling system where I live). Anyhow, I do hope this does get legislated and soon. It would be an easier first step to raise awareness especially when shopping aisles in supermarkets are sectioned into these 3 distinct areas.

I can see it now..."You are now entering the RED ZONE..(warning lights flashing) ". How I wish.

Best to all Scam

PS Bronx - remember that Doctors do not study diet or nutrition hence their reluctance to commit on such issues. If you want a Doctor to give you nutritional advice, find one whose kid has cancer or one that has cancer himself. As for "Once you got it well there nothing you can do.." comment, I say complete bollocks ! Change Doctor, the guy is not plugged in. There are thousands of documented cases of how diet can affect cancer and recovery. There is also emerging studies in Anti-angiogenesis from diet, reduction in Metastasis and complete cures, many are not yet 'scientifically proven' because of the reasons mentioned above. Silymarin is a good example. It promotes liver cell renewal and improves outcomes from liver patients but they cannot nail down why but the figures are there, they just can't explain them yet. There is a lot of hope Bronx so find the information that will help you and get to it.

hopeful111 said:

Dairy - is a little yogurt ok ?
I'm following this thread with interest - besides the pca I have, gs7, a dexa
showed osteoporosis, and am trying to increase calcium and vit d,
and hopefully put off using the bone rx like fosamax or zometa;
however will be starting adt/lupron soon which could have further
negative impact on bones and muscles.

in any case, wanted to ask folks if a little dairy like 12 oz full fat
yogurt once a da would be ok in context of this thread and stopping all dairy.

I am underweight and trying to add more protein, but have ibs and its tough to find non dairy foods high in protein that don't exacerbate it. I tried 1 oz salmon
for 5 days and it did not agree - had to stop.
(and makes me hesitant to start the fish oil capsules and its frustating since really want to get the benefits of that)

So went back to yogurt I had stopped just to get some protein - its only
12 g in the 12 oz, but better than nothing.

Now slowly trying soy milk - 2 8oz glasses a day, barely making it digestion wise with that, but keeping at it.

But really need to use soy protein powder and/or tofu which has more protein in reasonable amts I need., and thats the next step of the experiment.

If experiment is ok, I could drop the yogurt and take calcium supplements and
calcium in rice and soy milk toget the calcium instead.

questions

1. is even the 12 oz of yogurt taken too much in the context of pca
and this thread ?

2. would using the non fat yogurt help instead - it has more protein somehow -- or is it that dairy is dairy, regardless of fat content ?


Thanks for feedback or opinions

Swingshiftworker said:

Doesn't Apparently Work For Me
FWIW, I eat very little dairy (no whole milk, only soy milk and very little yogurt or cheese) and can go weeks without eating any dairy products at all but my PSA levels were and still are higher than they should be. Go figure . .

So, low or no dairy intake doesn't apparently work for me but I'll still keep my dairy intake down because I'm not compelled to eat dairy products much anyway.

bdhilton said:

omega 3 organics eggs
I take one step further and just eat the whites....