cancer and tobacco

Hi Mel,
I would leave your
Hi Mel,
I would leave your hubby alone. It is his life, his choice. I doubt that chewing tobacco will do anything to increase the chance that his colon cancer spreads. He has been through a lot and deserves some pleasure in his life.

John23 said:

Mel -

Anything, and nothing, can cause cancer, so don't put so much
weight into it.

My mother and father both smoked three to four packs a day
each since they were in their teens. My mother had lung cancer,
half a lung taken out, and continued smoking for another 17 years.
My father never got cancer of any type, at all.

A cancer cell is just a normal cell that's been damaged and has
managed to live on, by the fermentation process. This can happen
to any cell in our body, when our immune system doesn't do what
it was intended to do. Consequently, some of us will get cancer
from damned near anything.

If his cancer was in his mouth or throat, I could see the concern
with chewing tobacco. Otherwise, it'd only be the disgusting habit
of spitting in tin cans and out windows, that would be my objection.
If I were his wife, he'd be more concerned with me killing him,
than cancer.

(just an opinion here.....)

John

I say if you want him around, nag, nag, nag!!
Tobacco does enter the blood stream through the mouth.

While your immune system is busy dealing with the new nicotine toxins, it leaves any cancer cells in your body unguarded. The same holds true with alcohol and your liver.

I have read this many times over, that is why we need to build our immune system to focus on the cancer cells.

Kerry S said:

I smoke a pipe
I gave up drinking 27 years ago. When I get up in the morning that is the best I am going to feel all day long.

I smoke a pipe because I can’t afford the high cost of cigarettes. It seems only those on welfare can afford them. I will be damned if I will give up my smoking. If I croak from it –so be it.

Kerry

Cancer is a difficult thing to deal with
and some times we need some extra help ,call it pills ,tabacco or any other thing that can help you to don't be in stress , We are not talking about
certain cancers directly related to tabacco! Despite that I'm not defending cigarets and tobacco of course the may kill but for the moment evaluate
what's worst and don't get worked up about.
Any way this is only my opinion probably I'm wrong !
Best to both.

pepebcn said:

Cancer is a difficult thing to deal with
and some times we need some extra help ,call it pills ,tabacco or any other thing that can help you to don't be in stress , We are not talking about
certain cancers directly related to tabacco! Despite that I'm not defending cigarets and tobacco of course the may kill but for the moment evaluate
what's worst and don't get worked up about.
Any way this is only my opinion probably I'm wrong !
Best to both.

I just want to live!
Man, if you have to smoke make it MaryJane! lol

I don't get worked up about anything.....my husband is a lucky guy! Present the facts and move on! lol


I think I would like an anxiety pill instead, but I know they have their drawbacks too....

John23 said:

I like that new picture, but.....


What is that woman on the right doing to that other woman's boob?

Ha! HA!
John, the other woman is me! lol

4 sisters just laughing away! I wish I could remember what we were laughing about, but then that's how we are when we are together!

I think my sister Virgie wants what Gloria has in her hand! Probably food, we were starving@

Kerry S said:

I smoke a pipe
I gave up drinking 27 years ago. When I get up in the morning that is the best I am going to feel all day long.

I smoke a pipe because I can’t afford the high cost of cigarettes. It seems only those on welfare can afford them. I will be damned if I will give up my smoking. If I croak from it –so be it.

Kerry

Kerry
Guess what.....I smoked before this dang cancer, not a lot but I did...but, put a alcoholic drink in my hand and the cigarette was lit up. I gave it up when I started feeling bad and never looked back. Then one day, I went to a dance, had a couple glasses of wine, came home, sat down on the front porch to unwind and BANG!! I WANT A CIGARETTE, I paced, looked at my husband's cigarettes BUTTS! BUTTS mind you....in the ash tray, picked one up, and said dang it, "I should just eat it!" lol....... I put it down, and went to bed!

So moral of the story, I should not drink!

You know my husband started smoking again about two months ago, and he stinks!!!! I can not stand the smell of cigarettes, couldn't before, but it was NEVER this bad...it's all in his moustache, on his clothes.......and in his car! Do I get on him? NO...oh, that sounds bad.......lmao.

If he wants to smoke fine, but he is washing his face and his mouth out A LOT!!!!!!!!!

Enjoy your pipe, and don't think of Nana the next time you light up!

Smoking
My husband likes to blame my love for coke cola for my colon cancer, my mom wants to blame cigarettes, my daughter blames the vaccines given to cows, of whose meat I eat, my son blames God.
So I still drink coke cola, still smoke (cut down to 2 cigarettes a day from 2 packs), eat red meat and somewhat still believe in God.
My Onc, didn't discourage me from smoking until recently,(when I was looking at getting surgery, he recommended the stoppage of my smoking) the reason why??? Because of stress, quitting would have been so stressful for me, quitting any of my habits.
The smoking cessation that I've started? Didn't do it because someone chastised me for it, didn't do it because all of a sudden as an adult I had to feel guilty about smoking and hiding cigarettes around the house (what kind of crapola is that? A grown arsed adult hiding cigarettes, how does anyone make you feel that you have to be sneaky as an adult? For shame!!), I'm only quitting because I chose to quit, not because I was nagged (sure fire way to keep me smoking) because I feel I can quit now, not because I was forced.
I guess what I'm saying is, well, heck, going to come right out and say it, give him a break.
Sure, we're all going to become "better people", after we're diagnosed with cancer, but as for me? I'm still the same me, I didn't do a .360 and become a nun. Nope, it seems I'm still me. I still love, laugh, cry, smoke, but mostly I cry more now, at what and who I will someday leave behind through NO FAULT of my own.
That's right, I don't blame the cancer on myself, God didn't give it to me as punishment for not loving my neighbors a year ago, or for smoking, or for sinning. It's CANCER, it HAPPENS, to the rich, poor, God's little lambs and the devil advocates, to the smokers, to the NON-SMOKERS, to tobacco chewers, to NON-TOBACCO chewers.
Don't blame the cancer victim for their cancer, exactly who would that help???

MelanieT said:

I value everyones rights and
I value everyones rights and opinions and i no i can always come here and vent.. i love that the answers are not always what i want to hear but help me get through this. I dont think you ever think clear again once this horrible disease enters your life. I find my strength in all of you!! I love chris so much and to me what he is doing is wrong and selfish. not to me but our girls. He is there hero and now they feel like he only cares about what makes him happy. I wont get on him about this because to be honest i dont know what i would do if i were faced with this.. I just dont know how to handle the questions from the kids?? thanks again.. love you all

Loves,
Mel

Wow.


Re:
".....what he is doing is wrong and selfish. not to me but our girls."

That's what he needs..... Cancer.... AND the ultimate guilt-trip!

I personally would try make it known to the girls, that babies
who come from families that had never used tobacco or drank, get cancer.

Give dad love, not criticism; he doesn't need crapola right now
(or ever, for that matter).

Best wishes for you all!


John