Tamoxifin
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Healthy alternative
Look up Noni Juice. It's from Tahiti. Not the best tasting stuff. Powerful antioxident that has shown promise at targeting brst ca cells. I was drinking after my diagnosis, but my chemo doc suggested it would poss. block chemo. So I feel it's that good. I'm going to resume it after my rads are done. Guess I will ask him first though. I will be on herceptin for the yr. Good luck. It won't hurt to look it up0 -
Make that 2pgrace35 said:Interesting
Did your oncologist insist you take it, or did he give you the info and told you to decide? This is the first response I have recieved where the oncologist didn't INSIST on this drug. 2% for me isn't enough either, it would have to be much much more than that.
My oncologist did not insist. She tested to see if I metabolized it and left the decision up to me. I agreed to take it unless it gave me trouble. 7 months late multiple pulmonary emoboli that the doctors feel were caused by the tamoxifen--I'm not taking it any more. But as others have said, every situation is different and we must all make our own choices.0 -
Natural remediesmarywest said:can you pass on the information?
I feel the same way you do. I have not filled my prescription for it, its almost a month old. Have you learned what you can take from the homepathic remedies that would help as far as blocking estrogen? I am thristing for knowledge on this. Being out of radiation for 7 months now, I am so hesitant to put something in my body that is not natural. I probably got cancer from toxins in food or whatever. I am so intersted in what you have learned, if you dont' mind passing that on to me. I took Arimidex and after 2 weeks I quit it because it caused such joint pain. I imagine tamoxin would do the same thing. I do not want to discourage anyone on taking these drugs at all. But I am with you 100% on this. I do hope you can share what you do know. mary
I'm not a doctor, and I not telling you to do what i do, just giving you info on what I've decided to do and would be happy to pass this info on.
I'm taking everyday Flax Hull Lignans. It has been researched for almost 20 years and does block estrogen receptors. I would google it and research it for yourself. I have also researched nutrition that is best for breast cancer. I hope this is helpful to you and I think our best way to decide on any medication is to speak to others, get their experiences. I just love sharing information and getting it, it has been so helpful to me on this decision.0 -
So many on the fencesusie09 said:OMG you misspelled words on here! How dare you! lol
This is all so interesting! I, like some of the others, am still undecided. Thanks for this thread pgrace!
♠♣ Christmas Susie ♠♣
Since I have started this thread, I have found that a very good percentage of women are in question on this drug. It is so helpful to hear everyones opinions, experiences etc....It just confirms my decision even more.0 -
Would love to know that toomarywest said:One more post
I would so love to see that stats of women who have taken it and how many had cancer return. Does anyone know where to look for that????????
Good question, I would love to know that too. Considering that it only raises your chances 2%, would love to know that.0 -
Same heresurvivorbc09 said:My oncologist did the stats
My oncologist did the stats test for me to determine chance of recurrence with my type of cancer, grade, stage, treatment and so on. My chance of recurrence, according to that, was 4%. That 50% stat comes in then. Meaning that 50% of 4 is 2%. That is the way they figure it.
That is what I was told too.....and I think its important to take in to consideration each persons situation in their cancer stage and grade.0 -
Very good stuffKatz77 said:Healthy alternative
Look up Noni Juice. It's from Tahiti. Not the best tasting stuff. Powerful antioxident that has shown promise at targeting brst ca cells. I was drinking after my diagnosis, but my chemo doc suggested it would poss. block chemo. So I feel it's that good. I'm going to resume it after my rads are done. Guess I will ask him first though. I will be on herceptin for the yr. Good luck. It won't hurt to look it up
Have had it before and thinks it's wonderful. It is a very powerful antioxident which is very important. It's funny that doc suggested it would block chemo, not sure they is anything that could block chemo. I don't think the doc's in western medicine even know, but since they don't they just say no. Good luck to you, here is to your health!0 -
That's wonderfulEil4186 said:My cancer was hormone
My cancer was hormone receptor positive so the tamoxifen actually lowers my risk of recurrence more than my chemo treatments. Almost 50%. I figured I'd be crazy not to take it.
That is wonderful, if I had those stats I would do the same thing, you're right, you would be crazy not too. Thanks!0 -
Sorry for your troublesEveningStar2 said:Make that 2
My oncologist did not insist. She tested to see if I metabolized it and left the decision up to me. I agreed to take it unless it gave me trouble. 7 months late multiple pulmonary emoboli that the doctors feel were caused by the tamoxifen--I'm not taking it any more. But as others have said, every situation is different and we must all make our own choices.
Thank for your info and I'm sorry you had problems, that is the last thing we need after treatment. This kind of info is what makes me really question....is it worth the risk?0 -
Hi their again.pgrace35 said:Hi there
I start my rads on Jan 4th...happy for you that your almost done. What do you think your Dr. will say. I'm almost thinking now not to even say anything, don't want to feel I have to explain myself.
I am not sure how I will tell my Dr.She will try to talk me out of not doing it.I feel like you ,don,t want to explain myself either.Just that i am not going to take it.0 -
Telling Dr.ppurdin said:Hi their again.
I am not sure how I will tell my Dr.She will try to talk me out of not doing it.I feel like you ,don,t want to explain myself either.Just that i am not going to take it.
I think it might be best I don't. It's my decision good or bad and the only one that will have to live with the decision is me. Especially if she hears that I'm taking a homepathic route, sure she won't agree at all! We will see, I see her monday, might feel out the situation and go from there. Let me know what you decide and the reaction. HAVE A GREAT DAY!0 -
That is the way my oncosurvivorbc09 said:My oncologist did the stats
My oncologist did the stats test for me to determine chance of recurrence with my type of cancer, grade, stage, treatment and so on. My chance of recurrence, according to that, was 4%. That 50% stat comes in then. Meaning that 50% of 4 is 2%. That is the way they figure it.
That is the way my onco explained it too. I think some don't realize that it isn't actually 50%. It is 50% of what your own personal risk of recurrence is. Some are higher than others, just like some are lower. You divide your recurrence chance by 50%. That is how much tamox helps you.
Lex♥0 -
Risk FactorAlexis F said:That is the way my onco
That is the way my onco explained it too. I think some don't realize that it isn't actually 50%. It is 50% of what your own personal risk of recurrence is. Some are higher than others, just like some are lower. You divide your recurrence chance by 50%. That is how much tamox helps you.
Lex♥
That is how I understood it as well Lex....for my situation it's 2%ish. It gets confusing and really scary when you 50%, if it limited my chances by 50%, then that would be totally different.0 -
Of course everyone must do
Of course everyone must do what will give them peace and I would not try and force my opinion on someone else. However with that said, I am taking tamoxifen and the decision was an easy one for me. My prognosis after surgery was a 25% chance of recurrence without any further treatment. Chemo reduced that by 2% and tamoxifen reduced it by 40%.
If your cancer was hormone receptive positive and you are premenopausal after chemo, then tamoxifen is a no brainer. It will improve your chance of remaining cancer free dramatically. Think it over very carefully.0 -
Callen, Tamoxifen reducesCalleen said:My Choice
is to not take tamoxifen. I did what I felt I could to prevent a recurrance by having both breasts removed. my lymph nodes were clear and my oncotype score was 10. So I have a 10% chance of recurrance. I have heard but not researched that the average person has a 12% chance of getting cancer so right now if this is true I'm at a lower percentage than the average person. I have a hard time taking advil for headaches and there was no way I could see taking this pill for 5 years and know I would have side effects.. Especially if it wasn't going to lower my chances of recurrance more than 3%. I feel at peace with my choice and know that even if I took it I could have a recurrance. Nothing is 100%!!
Callen, Tamoxifen reduces recurrence risk by more than 40%. it's chemo that only reduces it by 3%.0
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