anyone else tried GCMAF or got any good or bad stories about it UPDATED great nagalase result <0.9

manwithnoname said:

Great news Pete
I really believe its a good marker, a few publications seem to confirm it, are you still doing Gc-MAF? we have just arranged ours, getting it flown in with a friend from Japan.

lobb said:

by the way zero sides from

by the way zero sides from gcmaf, only welbeing, good sleep at night

i am actually using it for my dog who has breast cancer but she is only at 4 weeks of gcmaf, so too early
she looks much better but size of cancer maybe too big to achieve fast results (about 5cm)

lobb said:

forgot to menthion there is

forgot to menthion there is also a probiotic version of gcmaf which makes immediate effect on gut but gcmaf doesn t get in the blood flow, it just activates macrophages thru guts malt membrane and since gcmaf has many many other effects in the blood, not only immune system activator, i d stay with inejctable gcmaf for cancer

it is very expensive and available by doctors in vienna, kassel germany and US.since money is not an issue for me i made combo of injection gcmaf and probiotic gcmaf from feb to may.

my experience is: probiotic is very very potent on gut balance and liver but injection gcmaf (especially the japanese version) feels more potent.

in the CFs forums there are many on this probiotic version called maf314 and some combo like i did, our experience is similar we both feel injectable more potent on pathogens and viruses and the probiotic more potent on gut

AncestralManor said:

Checking in on this GCMAF/alternative discussion
Hello,

On July 25, 2012 my 41 year old niece alerted her father (my brother) and her brother (my nephew) that she may have cancer. I and my brother live in Massachusetts (MA), niece and nephew live in South Carolina (SC). First 4 weeks of updates from niece and nephew were contradictory. Nephew was providing 24/7 support and very disturbed about alternative medicine preferences and dismissal of traditional medicine advice. Niece was a bit detached, vague and dismissive, but late stage ovarian cancer was agreed upon.

While this discussion was started for Pete's colon cancer thread, it is the most informative I have found for GCMAF and other alternative approaches +/pr traditional chemo.

Auntie (me) flew down to SC from MA on 8/21 to provide care and try to figure out what is really going on with my niece.

Still absorbing the first month of conflicting reports and even more conflicting reports and observations since I have been here. Malnutrition symptoms include severely wasted arms, face, neck and chest - with distended belly of ovarian tumor and fluid build up.

Ovarian cancer indicator CA125 was well over 100 a year ago when niece refused the recommended hysterectomy. CA125 should be 35 or less. 3 weeks ago CA125 was over 1300, 2 weeks ago it was over 2000.

First order of business for me has been basic nutrition (3 squares), alleviating her constipation, helping her sleep and yet getting her to move out of bed more often.

We are doing ok with that for the time being, but as you folks seem to know all too well, building up body stamina to tolerate chemo long enough for chemo to do it's job can be a challenge.

In addition, I seem to be facing an alternative medicine religion for which I am ill prepared.

Niece just had her 4th GCMAF shot on 8/29 and is due for a 2nd traditional chemo treatment 9/5 - if her blood work etc is ok. In addition to the GCMAF, her alternative approach has included Alpha Lipoic & B12 & vitamin/mineral IVs plus 2 different nutritionists' supplements.

Niece has not told oncologist about alternative MD therapies, and really doesn't want to continue traditional chemo. Her first chemo on 8/13 did not include the full Taxol/Cobol regimen her oncologist recommended - - only Cobol.

On the evening of 8/17 my nephew got her admitted to the hospital for dehydration and constipation - and as was discovered bad blood counts. Niece was in the hospital until the morning of 8/21.

I will only meet with the oncologist for the first time on 9/5, but I have had the opportunity over 4 visits to the alternative medicine office for IVs to witness a disturbing flightiness in the alternative medicine MD.

Alternative MD attributes 8/17 need for hospital regimen to the first abbreviated chemo, while his regimen has a two week head start. He has not looked at the hospital/oncologist test results. I have.

Alt MD does have decent credentials in occupational and environmental detox and rejuvenation therapies, but nothing specific to cancer. The alternative MD's flighty observations are disturbing because he is not measuring anything even basic to his idea that his regimen has reduced abdominal distention, increased weight gain and better color.

In the morning I am going to buy a tape measure, a weight scale and a log book.

I have transferred the oncologist's test results to a spread sheet, as well as creating a food diary and columns for when and what traditional and alternative therapies have been applied.

The log book is for my niece to help her get her involved in her own treatment. I am a geek scientist looking for patterns and team building opportunities. I will build on the spreadsheets as needed and possibly give them to the MDs - if they express any interest.

Thank you all for your many observations and experiences. I hope what we are doing may be helpful for you. But I certainly appreciate having a place where the issues that concern me are being discussed.

Sharon Sergeant