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  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900
    just a weekly update
    still doing weekly gcmaf shots imi. no sides, maybe a dash of flu like the next day.

    still doing maf 878 smoothie, have added slippery elm and l-glutamine to the mix, tonight i had a veg juice base to the smoothie. with the frozen pawpaw and cacao, it comes out like a chocoloate shake. despite the tumeric and other spicey ingredients.

    my thrush is improving noticably, its likely the heavy duty nilstat is working, but it may also be the zinc, the bebbercap, or the golden seal.

    my stools are exceptional. not much to add. i suspect its the probiotic component of the smoothie. i have sourced german quark, as per budwig original formula.

    getting nagalase test result tomorrow from alt doc, will update my level when i get the result.

    hugs,
    Pete

    ps newest onc mentioned to time lag in cea drop off from alt therapies is longer than conventional so that even a rise could be die off and that i have to give the therapies time. he also gave me another free pet scan form. god this country has a good medical system, its been 6 months since my last pet. i must book it monday, though i am more interested qigong training
  • julians
    julians Member Posts: 1

    just a weekly update
    still doing weekly gcmaf shots imi. no sides, maybe a dash of flu like the next day.

    still doing maf 878 smoothie, have added slippery elm and l-glutamine to the mix, tonight i had a veg juice base to the smoothie. with the frozen pawpaw and cacao, it comes out like a chocoloate shake. despite the tumeric and other spicey ingredients.

    my thrush is improving noticably, its likely the heavy duty nilstat is working, but it may also be the zinc, the bebbercap, or the golden seal.

    my stools are exceptional. not much to add. i suspect its the probiotic component of the smoothie. i have sourced german quark, as per budwig original formula.

    getting nagalase test result tomorrow from alt doc, will update my level when i get the result.

    hugs,
    Pete

    ps newest onc mentioned to time lag in cea drop off from alt therapies is longer than conventional so that even a rise could be die off and that i have to give the therapies time. he also gave me another free pet scan form. god this country has a good medical system, its been 6 months since my last pet. i must book it monday, though i am more interested qigong training

    GcMAF results ?
    Hi Pete. Any feedback to share with the GcMAF ?
  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900
    julians said:

    GcMAF results ?
    Hi Pete. Any feedback to share with the GcMAF ?

    thanks for asking , crazy timing
    so far it did not stop my escalating cea, and the tumours growth in multiple sites.
    i used 8 shots weekly from david noakes eu europe, and then i made maf878 i got from ebay from dr erlander.

    now my other euro doc mikael has sent me maf314 from ruggerio.

    none of the german doctors i have seen are supportive yet. i have seen vogel, nestlehut, copic. when I am paying big money for effective care i play by the clinics rules and don't cheat on the sides.

    i still think gcmaf has potential, but i have one doctor who is positive that i respect, the others are neutral or negative on it.

    goodluck and thanks for asking.

    hugs,
    pete

    ps i started out this post being positive on gcmaf, the reality of metastatic illness has set in. it may yet save the day, i have been emailing today about this very subject.

    pps i made maf314 probiotic yogurt in the hallwang clinic kitchen for 3 weeks and now in the hotels kitchen in duderstadt. you have to make it each week.
  • mibarba
    mibarba Member Posts: 2
    Hello Pete,
     I previously

    Hello Pete,

     I previously worked for someone producing GcMAF in the early days, before it became evident to me from the results we were getting back, that GcMAF doesnt help with cancer or HIV (as was first sold for). But I still have access to the customer (patient) feedback database that includes the results and progress of the patients taking the gcmaf.  Maintaining the privacy and security of the patients, I feel its necessary to share some of what Ive learnt from those taking gcmaf, as I feel the gcmaf.eu website is very misleading and the information online is scarce or bias. Unfortunately I cant see any significant results that suggest gcmaf helps with cancer or HIV,  at the 944th patient, There have only been 2 positive results with cancer, and even then the results are inconclusive - no further follow-up, no statistical evidence, simply that the tumour has percievably decreased in size. Everything else has been so far, nonresponsive at best, with a lot of patients stopping taking conventional medicines and therapies in favour of gcmaf, with usually a decline in health. 

     On a further note, the gcmaf is relatively cheap to make, around 400 pounds to make a gram - and each intravenous dose is 100ng (0.000,000,1 of a gram.). Even if this did work effectively, it shouldnt be sold at such a high price (especially when the website says its claiming to be fighting 'Big Pharma' capitalism). Unfortunately its not proving to be helpful and people are paying thousands and losing time and health. 

     This chemical is sold with the idea that pharmacuetical companies put profit above health and 'they' dont want to use this becuase its cheap and unpatentable, so therefore not as profitable. Now i feel pharmacuetical capitalism is one at its most monsterous, but at least theres guidelines and safety checks. Whereas GcMAF is a research chemical, with little known about it, sold to people who are extremely hopeful, and often desperately ill, at extortionate rates, with no real patient care or follow-up or infact solid evidence to back up claims on the website. The person who runs the company has absolutely no medical knowledge or scientific background, only a business mentalilty that has served his economic interests very well at the expense of the wellbeing of people and causing a diversion from real treatment and a distortion of the truth in the search for viable medical help.

    There may be some applications or positive implications with gcmaf, but at this time, it needs much more research to discover how, and in its current state i wouldnt recommend that anyone takes it for cancer or HIV. There seems to be positive reports from some autistic children and those suffering from chronic fatigue syndrome, far from all, i may add, but seems there maybe something there.

    Sorry to be the bringer of bad news, but i feel its important for those considering options in this difficult time to have all the correct evidence to be able to make a well informed decision. 

    I wish you and all those going through similar things all the best.

  • mibarba
    mibarba Member Posts: 2
    Gcmaf results

    Hello Pete,

     I previously worked for someone producing GcMAF in the early days, before it became evident to me from the results we were getting back, that GcMAF doesnt help with cancer or HIV (as was first sold for). But I still have access to the customer (patient) feedback database that includes the results and progress of the patients taking the gcmaf.  Maintaining the privacy and security of the patients, I feel its necessary to share some of what Ive learnt from those taking gcmaf, as I feel the gcmaf.eu website is very misleading and the information online is scarce or bias. Unfortunately I cant see any significant results that suggest gcmaf helps with cancer or HIV,  at the 944th patient, There have only been 2 positive results with cancer, and even then the results are inconclusive - no further follow-up, no statistical evidence, simply that the tumour has percievably decreased in size. Everything else has been so far, nonresponsive at best, with a lot of patients stopping taking conventional medicines and therapies in favour of gcmaf, with usually a decline in health. 

     On a further note, the gcmaf is relatively cheap to make, around 400 pounds to make a gram - and each intravenous dose is 100ng (0.000,000,1 of a gram.). Even if this did work effectively, it shouldnt be sold at such a high price (especially when the website says its claiming to be fighting 'Big Pharma' capitalism). Unfortunately its not proving to be helpful and people are paying thousands and losing time and health. 

     This chemical is sold with the idea that pharmacuetical companies put profit above health and 'they' dont want to use this becuase its cheap and unpatentable, so therefore not as profitable. Now i feel pharmacuetical capitalism is one at its most monsterous, but at least theres guidelines and safety checks. Whereas GcMAF is a research chemical, with little known about it, sold to people who are extremely hopeful, and often desperately ill, at extortionate rates, with no real patient care or follow-up or infact solid evidence to back up claims on the website. The person who runs the company has absolutely no medical knowledge or scientific background, only a business mentalilty that has served his economic interests very well at the expense of the wellbeing of people and causing a diversion from real treatment and a distortion of the truth in the search for viable medical help.

    There may be some applications or positive implications with gcmaf, but at this time, it needs much more research to discover how, and in its current state i wouldnt recommend that anyone takes it for cancer or HIV. There seems to be positive reports from some autistic children and those suffering from chronic fatigue syndrome, far from all, i may add, but seems there maybe something there.

    Sorry to be the bringer of bad news, but i feel its important for those considering options in this difficult time to have all the correct evidence to be able to make a well informed decision. 

    I wish you and all those going through similar things all the best.

  • GcMAF
    GcMAF Member Posts: 2

    thanks Gcmaf
    its nice to know this is being researched. i will pm you with my email, feel free to reply and even phone me if you want.

    i would love a few more heavy heavy duty research papers to read.
    i don't read newspapers any more, just books on biology and papers from pubmed and some assorted commentary on the net from sources i trust.

    i am in sydney. i will post my gcmaf, may i ask a question about how a patient would source legitamite gcmaf, given trust on buying these alternatives direct over the net is hard to establish.

    my one friend, a new one tried gcmaf and said it failed him, but he is a late stage. my other query is about the level of white blood cells and if this would limit gcmaf effectiveness. just some questions popping into my head. i am fighting like hell to peacefully elimenate any remaining cancers cells.

    sincere thanks, a little science goes along long way. have a great day, i am.

    thanks for writing the article and if its published on the net let me know.

    hugs,
    pete

    Sorry I missed this, and

    Sorry I missed this, and possibly an email you sent me

    How can I contact you?

  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900
    mibarba said:

    Gcmaf results

    Hello Pete,

     I previously worked for someone producing GcMAF in the early days, before it became evident to me from the results we were getting back, that GcMAF doesnt help with cancer or HIV (as was first sold for). But I still have access to the customer (patient) feedback database that includes the results and progress of the patients taking the gcmaf.  Maintaining the privacy and security of the patients, I feel its necessary to share some of what Ive learnt from those taking gcmaf, as I feel the gcmaf.eu website is very misleading and the information online is scarce or bias. Unfortunately I cant see any significant results that suggest gcmaf helps with cancer or HIV,  at the 944th patient, There have only been 2 positive results with cancer, and even then the results are inconclusive - no further follow-up, no statistical evidence, simply that the tumour has percievably decreased in size. Everything else has been so far, nonresponsive at best, with a lot of patients stopping taking conventional medicines and therapies in favour of gcmaf, with usually a decline in health. 

     On a further note, the gcmaf is relatively cheap to make, around 400 pounds to make a gram - and each intravenous dose is 100ng (0.000,000,1 of a gram.). Even if this did work effectively, it shouldnt be sold at such a high price (especially when the website says its claiming to be fighting 'Big Pharma' capitalism). Unfortunately its not proving to be helpful and people are paying thousands and losing time and health. 

     This chemical is sold with the idea that pharmacuetical companies put profit above health and 'they' dont want to use this becuase its cheap and unpatentable, so therefore not as profitable. Now i feel pharmacuetical capitalism is one at its most monsterous, but at least theres guidelines and safety checks. Whereas GcMAF is a research chemical, with little known about it, sold to people who are extremely hopeful, and often desperately ill, at extortionate rates, with no real patient care or follow-up or infact solid evidence to back up claims on the website. The person who runs the company has absolutely no medical knowledge or scientific background, only a business mentalilty that has served his economic interests very well at the expense of the wellbeing of people and causing a diversion from real treatment and a distortion of the truth in the search for viable medical help.

    There may be some applications or positive implications with gcmaf, but at this time, it needs much more research to discover how, and in its current state i wouldnt recommend that anyone takes it for cancer or HIV. There seems to be positive reports from some autistic children and those suffering from chronic fatigue syndrome, far from all, i may add, but seems there maybe something there.

    Sorry to be the bringer of bad news, but i feel its important for those considering options in this difficult time to have all the correct evidence to be able to make a well informed decision. 

    I wish you and all those going through similar things all the best.

    thanks mibarba

    interesting comments, gcmaf from nokes i have not purchased, i too was skeptikal.

    what i do make re gcmaf is maf314 probiotic yogurt, thats supposed to be supperior to the injection and costs $10 per week.

    the real answer is who knows, one of my doctors has a few succesful cancer patients using gcmaf or maf314.

    paients can do their own research, your comments should be read by all purchasers. given your claimed cost of production, extorionate seems reasonable.

    everyone wants to make a buck out of us, while we are alive.

    maybe my maf 314 has helped my getting and stying NED, i was on it and many other things when my tumours died and disappeared. may they rest in pieces.

    hugs,

    pete

  • FarmerJo
    FarmerJo Member Posts: 2
    lobb said:

    forgot to menthion there is

    forgot to menthion there is also a probiotic version of gcmaf which makes immediate effect on gut but gcmaf doesn t get in the blood flow, it just activates macrophages thru guts malt membrane and since gcmaf has many many other effects in the blood, not only immune system activator, i d stay with inejctable gcmaf for cancer

    it is very expensive and available by doctors in vienna, kassel germany and US.since money is not an issue for me i made combo of injection gcmaf and probiotic gcmaf from feb to may.

    my experience is: probiotic is very very potent on gut balance and liver but injection gcmaf (especially the japanese version) feels more potent.

    in the CFs forums there are many on this probiotic version called maf314 and some combo like i did, our experience is similar we both feel injectable more potent on pathogens and viruses and the probiotic more potent on gut

    GcMAF

    Hi,  I have read your posts about GcMAF.  I have a couple of questions that I think you could maybe help me with.  My dad has stage 4 prostate cancer and started to take GcMAF from an alterative doctor.  However, he is soooo very sick.  He has been on it for 14 weeks and has lost about 20 lbs and is in so much pain. From everything I have been reading on this forum there shouldn't be this kind of side effects if you have the "real" thing.  Would you be able to put me in contact with someone who could get him the real product.  I think there is alot of promise but not sure he has the real thing.  Also, how do you get the product to put in yogurt?  Any information would be great appreciated.

     

    Thank You so much in advance,

     

  • herdizziness
    herdizziness Member Posts: 3,624
    FarmerJo said:

    GcMAF

    Hi,  I have read your posts about GcMAF.  I have a couple of questions that I think you could maybe help me with.  My dad has stage 4 prostate cancer and started to take GcMAF from an alterative doctor.  However, he is soooo very sick.  He has been on it for 14 weeks and has lost about 20 lbs and is in so much pain. From everything I have been reading on this forum there shouldn't be this kind of side effects if you have the "real" thing.  Would you be able to put me in contact with someone who could get him the real product.  I think there is alot of promise but not sure he has the real thing.  Also, how do you get the product to put in yogurt?  Any information would be great appreciated.

     

    Thank You so much in advance,

     

    What in the World

    Does his oncologist (your Dad's) say about this?  Did you ask him first?  Please tell me his oncologist is also overseeing your Dad's health.  You cannot put all your faith into an UNPROVEN pile of yogurt. Please let uS know. Sending prayers your Dad's way.

    Winter Marie

  • FarmerJo
    FarmerJo Member Posts: 2
    lobb said:

    forgot to menthion there is

    forgot to menthion there is also a probiotic version of gcmaf which makes immediate effect on gut but gcmaf doesn t get in the blood flow, it just activates macrophages thru guts malt membrane and since gcmaf has many many other effects in the blood, not only immune system activator, i d stay with inejctable gcmaf for cancer

    it is very expensive and available by doctors in vienna, kassel germany and US.since money is not an issue for me i made combo of injection gcmaf and probiotic gcmaf from feb to may.

    my experience is: probiotic is very very potent on gut balance and liver but injection gcmaf (especially the japanese version) feels more potent.

    in the CFs forums there are many on this probiotic version called maf314 and some combo like i did, our experience is similar we both feel injectable more potent on pathogens and viruses and the probiotic more potent on gut

     
     

     

     

  • claired36
    claired36 Member Posts: 1
    gcmaf

    Hi,

    I just wanted to let you know about my experience using GCmaf for breast cancer, that I have treated only through my naturopath. I used it every 5 days, as the potency drops on the 6th day ,for 28 weeks and my last scan has determined my tumor as benign, it also raised my natural killer cells to 72%. I would highly recommend a product called Zell oxygen immunocomplex that i have been using since stopping the injections and it has kept my macrophage and mitochondria open, i get tested weekly at my naturopaths office.

    I also did the Bio focus test from Germany that will tell you your natural killer cell levels, what conventional treatment or alternative treatments will work for your cancer, it also told me my levels of circulating tumor cells, it was the best thing i ever did!!! i followed the recommendations for my cancer which were mainy cerosene, vit c, graviola and angiostop and of course im on a strict diet of no dairy, sugar, gluten and hardly any meat, and tons of juices as well as lots of supplements.

    I also believe in emotional healing and concentrated on lots of this, i use lots of EFT as i can do this at home.

    I wish you good health!!!!!

  • claired36 said:

    gcmaf

    Hi,

    I just wanted to let you know about my experience using GCmaf for breast cancer, that I have treated only through my naturopath. I used it every 5 days, as the potency drops on the 6th day ,for 28 weeks and my last scan has determined my tumor as benign, it also raised my natural killer cells to 72%. I would highly recommend a product called Zell oxygen immunocomplex that i have been using since stopping the injections and it has kept my macrophage and mitochondria open, i get tested weekly at my naturopaths office.

    I also did the Bio focus test from Germany that will tell you your natural killer cell levels, what conventional treatment or alternative treatments will work for your cancer, it also told me my levels of circulating tumor cells, it was the best thing i ever did!!! i followed the recommendations for my cancer which were mainy cerosene, vit c, graviola and angiostop and of course im on a strict diet of no dairy, sugar, gluten and hardly any meat, and tons of juices as well as lots of supplements.

    I also believe in emotional healing and concentrated on lots of this, i use lots of EFT as i can do this at home.

    I wish you good health!!!!!

    gcmaf

    hi has anyone else tried gcmaf yet? results? feelings about it? 

    would love your updated input

  • John23
    John23 Member Posts: 2,122

    gcmaf

    hi has anyone else tried gcmaf yet? results? feelings about it? 

    would love your updated input

    Old, old, old threads.

     

    You are attempting to get an answer from those that may no longer be on the face of the earth.

    Please take note of the date of the thread and last post prior to adding to it?

    Thanks. And better health wishes at you!

    John

  • Mazzer12
    Mazzer12 Member Posts: 1
    Broccoli powder?

    sounds intriguingly! I would love a copy of the book you are ferrying to Pete but I don't seem to be able to PM you?

  • Trubrit
    Trubrit Member Posts: 5,562 **
    Mazzer12 said:

    Broccoli powder?

    sounds intriguingly! I would love a copy of the book you are ferrying to Pete but I don't seem to be able to PM you?

    Hello Mazzer

    Pete no longer post to this forum. When you see the 'Access Denied' on a member page, it usually means they have passed on. Pete's case is different, as he was banned from this site for various reasons.  I haven't heard mention of him for a while, but I know a couple of members here have kept track of his progress, so maybe someone will pop on and guide you to another site where he posts, if he posts. 

    This is a very old post, 2012. Several of our friends have passed. I don't think Pete is one of them, I'm sure we would have heard, as he was quite the character. 

    Good luck finding the info. 

    SUE

  • traci43
    traci43 Member Posts: 773
    Mazzer12 said:

    Broccoli powder?

    sounds intriguingly! I would love a copy of the book you are ferrying to Pete but I don't seem to be able to PM you?

    blog

    Mazzer12 - search for Pete Trayhurn blog and you will find him.  Good luck to you.

  • Fightingit2
    Fightingit2 Member Posts: 1
    edited August 2016 #138
    traci43 said:

    blog

    Mazzer12 - search for Pete Trayhurn blog and you will find him.  Good luck to you.

    For anyone who is interested,

    For anyone who is interested, Pete is definitely still around and pushing the envelope. I had the pleasure of meeting him at the 2016 ICI in Melbourne. Unfortunately Pete is still fighting his disease and his recent results were not good, although having said that he is still at the forefront of trying new protocols. Not bad for a guy who should have been long gone Long ago. 

  • Trubrit
    Trubrit Member Posts: 5,562 **
    edited August 2016 #139

    For anyone who is interested,

    For anyone who is interested, Pete is definitely still around and pushing the envelope. I had the pleasure of meeting him at the 2016 ICI in Melbourne. Unfortunately Pete is still fighting his disease and his recent results were not good, although having said that he is still at the forefront of trying new protocols. Not bad for a guy who should have been long gone Long ago. 

    Think of him

    I came in on the tail end of Pete's time here, so missed most of the controversy regarding him. 

    I am very happy to hear that he is still alive and kicking. Thanks for the update. 

    SUE

  • John23
    John23 Member Posts: 2,122
    Old thread; old topic: 2012

    Pete's not here to defend himself, so I'm reluctant to offer an opinion...

    However, Pete offered his experiences as things we should all do to defeat cancer. All his suggestions for treatments were quite costly and well into the thousands upon thousands of dollars. None of the treatments were mainstream (western or eastern), and none offered any proof whatsoever of any improvement of any customary treatment (western or eastern).

    Pete made a concentrated effort to denounce any treatment other than what he was presently doing at the time he was doing it. He had apparently convinced a member here (gone now) to cash in his insurance policy to pay for Pete's recommended "cure".

    Pete was a character, no doubt to any of us that kept up with his tales. I'm glad to hear he's still surviving and enduring his battle, however costly it may have been to him and his family; can't blame a guy for trying!

    But to encourage others to take such a very costly approach is very disingenuous, especially if any insistence is provided that spending every penny one has on a "chance" the remedy may work, is the right approach if one wishes to live.

    Never, ever allow fear to guide you. There are indeed "other options" to fight cancer, and some of the most beneficial costs very, very little.

    My very best hopes for each of you!!

    John

     

  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866
    edited September 2016 #141
    John23 said:

    Old thread; old topic: 2012

    Pete's not here to defend himself, so I'm reluctant to offer an opinion...

    However, Pete offered his experiences as things we should all do to defeat cancer. All his suggestions for treatments were quite costly and well into the thousands upon thousands of dollars. None of the treatments were mainstream (western or eastern), and none offered any proof whatsoever of any improvement of any customary treatment (western or eastern).

    Pete made a concentrated effort to denounce any treatment other than what he was presently doing at the time he was doing it. He had apparently convinced a member here (gone now) to cash in his insurance policy to pay for Pete's recommended "cure".

    Pete was a character, no doubt to any of us that kept up with his tales. I'm glad to hear he's still surviving and enduring his battle, however costly it may have been to him and his family; can't blame a guy for trying!

    But to encourage others to take such a very costly approach is very disingenuous, especially if any insistence is provided that spending every penny one has on a "chance" the remedy may work, is the right approach if one wishes to live.

    Never, ever allow fear to guide you. There are indeed "other options" to fight cancer, and some of the most beneficial costs very, very little.

    My very best hopes for each of you!!

    John

     

    Whoa

    I just checked out his blog. It reads like an Country & Western song...