I WANT OUT

iquit
iquit Member Posts: 1
edited March 2014 in Breast Cancer #1
I am not depressed. But I am tired of it all. I belong to support groups and I talk with a therapist concerning my cancer issues. I do take an anti-depressant (Effexor) in order to control my anxiety because my oncologist does not want to prescribe Ativan to me. The way she put it is that Ativan works to calm at the moment of an anxiety attack, but it is not effective for overall anxiety throughout the day. So anyway, I have been treated for breast cancer, which means I have done the mastectomies, started reconstruction, have taken chemotherapy and have just finished up radiation. Throughout this ordeal, I haven't had the generous outpouring of support from friends and family that many of you have. Simply put, me having cancer has been more of an inconvenience to everyone I am surrounded by than a reason to unify. And most of my "friends" vanished soon after I was diagnosed. I am a good person but I have had a bad life. Bad things have always happened to me. And I am just tired of fighting an endless battle hoping that things will somehow get better. They never do. Just as I am thinking that I am almost through this tumultuous year and that my marriage is salvageable, I learn that my husband is still having an affair. The affair that he began the day of my first chemo treatment. I thought (what a joke) that it had ended, but apparently he has no conscious and took her call right in front of me. That is just an example of how things have been while I have been "fighting for my life." And I have reached the point where I feel like it just is not worth it. The cancer is locally advanced and my treatment plan calls for me to take Tamoxifin for five years. But I have decided not to take it. I suppose this will sound whacked. Maybe I am and I am the last to know about it! I know it does not necessarily mean that I will die from this cancer, but I am not going to actively try to prolong my life anymore.
«1

Comments

  • New Flower
    New Flower Member Posts: 4,294
    Welcome to the board
    I am sorry about your situation. We all here to help each other and I understand the difficult time you are going through.
    Lack of support probably contributes to your tiredness and anxiety. This board is the best therapist ever and I am sure you will get a lot of love and understanding.
    As we all here, I am tired much more than I used to and than regular person, I need to go now.
    WElcome and please stay with us.
    New Flower
  • gagee
    gagee Member Posts: 332
    DON'T GIVE UP
    Please don't give up. I know what you mean about no support. My husband has been here for me every day and that I thank God for. But.... I have to daughters (44 and 43) and they don't think it is much of a deal having cancer. They didn't come to surgery or even help my husband as he was as scared as I was. We went through this whole thing since Aug. and they have called maybe 4 or 5 times. We had always been there for them and thought they would do the same. My older daughter argued with me today on the phone. I am having a terrible reaction from the Arimidex (5 year pill). I have 10-12 side effects and doc said I might have hot flashes and a little weight gain. Well I also have gained 15 pounds since my surgery in Aug. I don't eat much so it has to be from the pill. My hands are so painful I can't make a fist. My feet hurt that I can't hardly walk. It is in all of my joints. So Friday I finally called and ask to change oncologists. I need some one to explain how long I have to put up with all this.

    But please don't give up. Life is to precious. I don't know you but would love to get to know you. Your husband is a jerk to not realize how much you need him. Maybe he is more afraid than you know. If not you can go on. I believe in God and believe he will be there for you. Sometimes it is not when you think he should be but he is there. Please ... Please don't give up.

    This room and the chat room have wonderful people to talk with. Most of them are better at commuticating than I am. I am not great at writing but give me a phone and watch out.

    Give your life to God and he will help you through this.

    All my Prayers and hugs to You,

    Diana
  • sausageroll
    sausageroll Member Posts: 415
    gagee said:

    DON'T GIVE UP
    Please don't give up. I know what you mean about no support. My husband has been here for me every day and that I thank God for. But.... I have to daughters (44 and 43) and they don't think it is much of a deal having cancer. They didn't come to surgery or even help my husband as he was as scared as I was. We went through this whole thing since Aug. and they have called maybe 4 or 5 times. We had always been there for them and thought they would do the same. My older daughter argued with me today on the phone. I am having a terrible reaction from the Arimidex (5 year pill). I have 10-12 side effects and doc said I might have hot flashes and a little weight gain. Well I also have gained 15 pounds since my surgery in Aug. I don't eat much so it has to be from the pill. My hands are so painful I can't make a fist. My feet hurt that I can't hardly walk. It is in all of my joints. So Friday I finally called and ask to change oncologists. I need some one to explain how long I have to put up with all this.

    But please don't give up. Life is to precious. I don't know you but would love to get to know you. Your husband is a jerk to not realize how much you need him. Maybe he is more afraid than you know. If not you can go on. I believe in God and believe he will be there for you. Sometimes it is not when you think he should be but he is there. Please ... Please don't give up.

    This room and the chat room have wonderful people to talk with. Most of them are better at commuticating than I am. I am not great at writing but give me a phone and watch out.

    Give your life to God and he will help you through this.

    All my Prayers and hugs to You,

    Diana

    Definitely don't give up!
    I'm glad you found us and told us how you feel. I think you will discover that you are not alone. My heart goes out to you. I wish i could offer words of wisdom..but I can only offer love and understanding. Even those women who have supportive husbands get depressed..so you have every reason. My husband has been great, but even I get periods of feeling very down. My friend's husband never touched her or kissed her after her diagnosis. He became cold and aloof. She somehow found the guts to leave him and is so much better for it ...unfortunately that's not easy for everyone.
    We can't help make life better for you at home, but we can be here with love and support...so keep in touch. Take care. Pat
  • smalldoggroomer
    smalldoggroomer Member Posts: 1,184
    I'm so very sorry for what
    I'm so very sorry for what you are going through, but you have found the right place to come. we will be here for you when ever and what ever you need. I'm sorry about your husband being a jerk.. I know if it was me I would take charge and kick him to the curb. i pray you don't give up on life. It is good even though you are in a bad spot now. Do you have Kids? You didn't say what kind of breast cancer you have. I have Inflammatory breast cancer. They tell me it is the worst kind to have. But I have already decided I will live until I am ninety nine. Maybe your Dr can adjust your Meds it sounds like they may not be doing there job right for you. I hope you are feeling better come here often we will be here waiting for you. I hope you like having sisters because you was just adopted be about 5000 of them. I'm the old one!! Take care darlin Kay, We care how you feel.
  • KathiM
    KathiM Member Posts: 8,028 Member
    I kept saying I wanted to run away....
    during my active treatment. But, it was pointed out, I will have to take me with me....

    Your feelings are normal. I know you have already heard this, but it's true. And cancer is hell on relationships, all of them. No one wants to hear the grisly details, including many spouses. You cannot control your hubby...but you CAN control how his behavior affects YOU. Kick is arse out! If not physically, at least emotionally. YOU are special, NOT him.

    As far as the Tamoxifen, or whatever...well, that is a personal choice. I am nearing the end of my 5 years on it, and will take nothing more...even tho my beau is wanting me to switch to the AI's...for 1% control....NO WAY!!!! Cancer got 5 years of my life. NO MORE, if I can help it...

    A very dear friend of mine, when I was in the depths, said to me words that I keep with me always: "You need to love and take care of yourself, to set an example for others as to how you insist on being treated".

    BIG hugs to you, dear soul....we are here for you...

    Hugs, Kathi
  • Kylez
    Kylez Member Posts: 3,761 Member

    Welcome to the board
    I am sorry about your situation. We all here to help each other and I understand the difficult time you are going through.
    Lack of support probably contributes to your tiredness and anxiety. This board is the best therapist ever and I am sure you will get a lot of love and understanding.
    As we all here, I am tired much more than I used to and than regular person, I need to go now.
    WElcome and please stay with us.
    New Flower

    Sending prayers and strength
    Sending prayers and strength to you!
  • cavediver
    cavediver Member Posts: 607
    I am so sorry to hear all
    I am so sorry to hear all that you are going through. It is hard without support of friends and family and then feeling betrayed also. But you have to take care of yourself....remove yourself physically or emotionally from those that hurt you...and fight for your life and it can be good. I know it is easier for me to say you are thinking...but I really believe it. Life will never be the same for any of us.... but it can be a life of our choosing and what we make of it. With all you have been through...you deserve to enjoy some new adventures in life. I am hoping that you will find the support to carry on and search out a new life for yourself... cyber hugs and positive thoughts being sent your way.
  • chenheart
    chenheart Member Posts: 5,159
    When I saw the title of your
    When I saw the title of your post...I thought, yeah! We never wanted IN~ did we?
    But...here we all are; fighting for our lives, indeed. And, as you have no doubt noticed, we are an amazing group of kick-**** women who truly "get it". And no, not all of us have supportive, faithful husbands or partners, not all of us have health insurance, or jobs, kids who care, a relationship with God or a chuch we attend. Some of us have to drive hours to treatment, have no one to dry our tears...fill in the blanks. This is scary stuff! I am surprised eveyone of us isn't on some type of anti-anxiety drug! If we don't have the reason/right to be anxious, who does??????

    I am truly sorry for all of the hardship and heartbreak and downright callousness you have had to be a part of. As if doing battle with the beast isn't enough!

    I am hoping that you know that YOU are of the utmost importance.. and not just to the sisterhood of Kindred Spirits here~ and I send you all of the strength of conviction, courage and cyber hugs to help you make good and right decisions for yourself! Fighting this beast is no walk in the park, as you have certainly seen. But there is good, and laughter, and relief and other positives to be found in spite of it all.

    You are NOT alone.

    Hugs,
    Chen♥
  • shelbyhome
    shelbyhome Member Posts: 145
    I was saddened to read your
    I was saddened to read your story, I pray that things will get better for you. I have found that we have to stay strong and positive to make it out of this crazy world of cancer that we didnt sign up for! I know that sounds silly but it really is true. This board is a great release for me and to just read others post makes me realize that I am not alone, so keep on here and hang in there and don't give up!
    I am not very good with words, I hope that what we all say will make a difference to you.
    I will be praying for you
    Hugs :) Robbin
  • shelbyhome
    shelbyhome Member Posts: 145
    gagee said:

    DON'T GIVE UP
    Please don't give up. I know what you mean about no support. My husband has been here for me every day and that I thank God for. But.... I have to daughters (44 and 43) and they don't think it is much of a deal having cancer. They didn't come to surgery or even help my husband as he was as scared as I was. We went through this whole thing since Aug. and they have called maybe 4 or 5 times. We had always been there for them and thought they would do the same. My older daughter argued with me today on the phone. I am having a terrible reaction from the Arimidex (5 year pill). I have 10-12 side effects and doc said I might have hot flashes and a little weight gain. Well I also have gained 15 pounds since my surgery in Aug. I don't eat much so it has to be from the pill. My hands are so painful I can't make a fist. My feet hurt that I can't hardly walk. It is in all of my joints. So Friday I finally called and ask to change oncologists. I need some one to explain how long I have to put up with all this.

    But please don't give up. Life is to precious. I don't know you but would love to get to know you. Your husband is a jerk to not realize how much you need him. Maybe he is more afraid than you know. If not you can go on. I believe in God and believe he will be there for you. Sometimes it is not when you think he should be but he is there. Please ... Please don't give up.

    This room and the chat room have wonderful people to talk with. Most of them are better at commuticating than I am. I am not great at writing but give me a phone and watch out.

    Give your life to God and he will help you through this.

    All my Prayers and hugs to You,

    Diana

    I have been on Tamoxifin,
    I have been on Tamoxifin, Arimidex, Femera and now am on Aromasin..... I was having hot flashes and he put me on a anti depressant and they are better now but the joint pain was so bad on the others that I couldn't stand it and I still have some but not as bad. Maybe you will do better on something else.
    Hugs:) Robbin
  • sea60
    sea60 Member Posts: 2,613

    I was saddened to read your
    I was saddened to read your story, I pray that things will get better for you. I have found that we have to stay strong and positive to make it out of this crazy world of cancer that we didnt sign up for! I know that sounds silly but it really is true. This board is a great release for me and to just read others post makes me realize that I am not alone, so keep on here and hang in there and don't give up!
    I am not very good with words, I hope that what we all say will make a difference to you.
    I will be praying for you
    Hugs :) Robbin

    I know many of us have felt as desperate
    as you. I am so sorry to hear that you lack a circle of supportive family and friends. But you know what? You have us..."instant Sisters". We're here for you.

    I was going to also suggest if it's possible to reach out, even if you don't feel like it and befriend other women who have experienced cancer through perhaps, a support group in your area. Go out for coffee or a movie. Small things help. Also maybe reach out at your church.

    You're situation with your husband certainly doesn't help. Maybe at some point you'll need to confront him and his intentions. If he's not going to respect your marriage, do you want to stay?

    So many of us get "knocked down" by life situations that were out of our control. But we do have some control over making some changes to try and move from where we don't want to be to a place that's better. It does take work but you, and everyone here is worth it. YOU are a person a great worth...we all are.

    Please feel free to PM me anytime you'd like. You're not alone.

    God's peace,

    Sylvia
  • Scotch Freckles
    Scotch Freckles Member Posts: 273 Member
    You can't quit
    Iquit, I went to read your profile and didn't find any information as to your age, your cancer, and anything else. Your profile and life are not complete until you fill in the blanks. My mother always told us "No one every promised you a rose garden." I read the posts frequently and wonder how any of these women have made it through the hell they have endured. My journey was not the hell as a lot of these strong women's journey. You have to decided whether you mean enough to yourself to stand up and say hell no I won't let this cancer get to me. Life is too short, make a new life, move on, the world does not stop over one individuals grief, disappointments in life, and pain. I can guarantee life does not stop. I haven't posted for a couple of weeks because my husband of 36 years suddendly died. He didn't have a choice it just happened. You have a choice to fight and make a better life for yourself. Stand up, take control, it won't be easy, we are all here to help you along, and if your close enough to any of us, you can bet your sweet booties one of us will be there physically to help. So give your life 5 years of Tamoxifin, give life a chance, give yourself a chance.

    With the grace of God no one walks alone. I send you my warm wishes and strength of support.

    Kathryn
  • chenheart
    chenheart Member Posts: 5,159

    You can't quit
    Iquit, I went to read your profile and didn't find any information as to your age, your cancer, and anything else. Your profile and life are not complete until you fill in the blanks. My mother always told us "No one every promised you a rose garden." I read the posts frequently and wonder how any of these women have made it through the hell they have endured. My journey was not the hell as a lot of these strong women's journey. You have to decided whether you mean enough to yourself to stand up and say hell no I won't let this cancer get to me. Life is too short, make a new life, move on, the world does not stop over one individuals grief, disappointments in life, and pain. I can guarantee life does not stop. I haven't posted for a couple of weeks because my husband of 36 years suddendly died. He didn't have a choice it just happened. You have a choice to fight and make a better life for yourself. Stand up, take control, it won't be easy, we are all here to help you along, and if your close enough to any of us, you can bet your sweet booties one of us will be there physically to help. So give your life 5 years of Tamoxifin, give life a chance, give yourself a chance.

    With the grace of God no one walks alone. I send you my warm wishes and strength of support.

    Kathryn

    I love you, Kathryn...you
    I love you, Kathryn...you inspire me.
  • Scotch Freckles
    Scotch Freckles Member Posts: 273 Member
    chenheart said:

    I love you, Kathryn...you
    I love you, Kathryn...you inspire me.

    Hey Chen
    Are you still up Claudia?
  • New Flower
    New Flower Member Posts: 4,294

    Hey Chen
    Are you still up Claudia?

    Chatroom
    Why nobody never in the chatroom?
    It can be very helpful and fun.
  • amoccia53160
    amoccia53160 Member Posts: 10
    Hang in there
    I know this isn't what you want to hear. Sounds like you are hopeless and depressed and could use a change or increase in your antidepressant. Ativan is not a long term solution. Only for acute anxiety. It is painful for a husband to be unfaithful.....I have experienced it too. Don't let your angry feelings for his behavior harm you anymore. I don't believe you are stage 4? This disease is treatable. Sorry for your lack of support from others. I really feel if you treat the depression and take the anti-hormonals you will do just fine. Your plate is full now. My favorite sayings are "God is good all the time" and "Pull yourself up by panties and get going!" Keep us posted. We are here for you and every life is worth saving. xxoo Annette
  • 24242
    24242 Member Posts: 1,398

    Hang in there
    I know this isn't what you want to hear. Sounds like you are hopeless and depressed and could use a change or increase in your antidepressant. Ativan is not a long term solution. Only for acute anxiety. It is painful for a husband to be unfaithful.....I have experienced it too. Don't let your angry feelings for his behavior harm you anymore. I don't believe you are stage 4? This disease is treatable. Sorry for your lack of support from others. I really feel if you treat the depression and take the anti-hormonals you will do just fine. Your plate is full now. My favorite sayings are "God is good all the time" and "Pull yourself up by panties and get going!" Keep us posted. We are here for you and every life is worth saving. xxoo Annette

    I too am sorry
    Know you are not alone in the suffering you are going through many of us have had the same struggles and side effects from all the treatments so know "YOU ARE NOT ALONE".
    I finally came to this site with the same feelings of LITTLE HOPE and lots of physical pain that was driving me insane. Yes I too wanted OUT because suffering day in and day out was breaking me and then throw in a relationship that we have to fight for as well as fighting for LIFE.
    Kathryn it has been 14 years now for me and like you I still wonder when things are going to go my way 2 steps forward and it always seems like 10 steps back. I found way to simplify things since I realize we are the ones who truly complicate our lives with our thoughts and our ways. I gave up on caring about allot of things and with that I also gave up on some friendships that were too much work. I still have my relationship after all the years but I have to say it has taken shape to something I never thought I would want but I have found LOVING is just that much more important.
    Life was never perfect before and yes it has always been difficult for me since I am not a conformist so things aren't always easy. I do know looking back that I have finally become the person I dreamed of and that truly is all that matters to me since I have worked so hard to change allot of things about me.
    WE do not know how long we have in this world and I know how much QUALITY to our lives can make such a difference so never stop fighting for that. Once again I have to add that PAIN does not cause depression but depression can cause pain. Interesting don't you think.
    I think too giving up on the future and living in the moment has changed everything for me.
    Keeping you close at heart,
    Tara
    Oh and about chat I still cannot get into the room though I have talked to Society about and i have to wonder how many others cannot change the nickname so they can sign in and access the chat.
  • CypressCynthia
    CypressCynthia Member Posts: 4,014 Member
    Depression
    I would like to respectfully disagree with your first statement, "I am not depressed." I don't think that we recognize classic depression when we are in the midst of it. But you are tired, feeling alone and abandoned, and planning to commit a slow suicide.

    I have been depressed before and honestly didn't think that I was--until I emerged from it like a butterfly from a chrysalis. Please, please, please seek help today! The holidays will exacerbate all of the bad feelings. And please know that you are not alone. I care and these wonderful women here care too. PM me any time! And please let us know how you are doing.


    Mayo Clinic Self Assessment for Depression
  • KathiM
    KathiM Member Posts: 8,028 Member

    You can't quit
    Iquit, I went to read your profile and didn't find any information as to your age, your cancer, and anything else. Your profile and life are not complete until you fill in the blanks. My mother always told us "No one every promised you a rose garden." I read the posts frequently and wonder how any of these women have made it through the hell they have endured. My journey was not the hell as a lot of these strong women's journey. You have to decided whether you mean enough to yourself to stand up and say hell no I won't let this cancer get to me. Life is too short, make a new life, move on, the world does not stop over one individuals grief, disappointments in life, and pain. I can guarantee life does not stop. I haven't posted for a couple of weeks because my husband of 36 years suddendly died. He didn't have a choice it just happened. You have a choice to fight and make a better life for yourself. Stand up, take control, it won't be easy, we are all here to help you along, and if your close enough to any of us, you can bet your sweet booties one of us will be there physically to help. So give your life 5 years of Tamoxifin, give life a chance, give yourself a chance.

    With the grace of God no one walks alone. I send you my warm wishes and strength of support.

    Kathryn

    Warm hugs to you, Kathryn!!!!
    And, you know, when you are up to it....come visit me in Holland...we can both go discover our roots!!!

    BIG hugs, Kathi
  • chenheart
    chenheart Member Posts: 5,159

    Hey Chen
    Are you still up Claudia?

    Rats! I was indeed still up,
    Rats! I was indeed still up, Scotch Freckles~ but got busy doing other things, and never got back onto this site! I am glad to see you posting; I think of you so often.
    PM me whenever you want, we can even exchange email addresses if you'd like!

    Hugs,
    Chen♥