Interesting findings re alcohol

CypressCynthia
CypressCynthia Member Posts: 4,014 Member
edited March 2014 in Breast Cancer #1
Alcohol is a known risk, but this research differentiates which type of breast cancer (lobular; hormone +) is especially vulnerable to alcohol. One study but an interesting one.

"Compared with never drinkers, women who consumed seven or more alcoholic beverages per week had an almost twofold increased risk of hormone receptor–positive invasive lobular carcinoma (HR = 1.82; 95% CI = 1.18 to 2.81) but not a statistically significant increased risk of hormone receptor–positive invasive ductal carcinoma (HR = 1.14; 95% CI = 0.87 to 1.50; difference in HRs per drink per day among current drinkers = 1.15; 95% CI = 1.01 to 1.32, P = .042)."

http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/djq316

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  • mimivac
    mimivac Member Posts: 2,143 Member
    #2
    Interesting...
    I always feel guilty about drinking even though I am hormone negative. Thanks for the article.

    Mimi
  • CypressCynthia
    CypressCynthia Member Posts: 4,014 Member
    #3
    mimivac said:

    Interesting...
    I always feel guilty about drinking even though I am hormone negative. Thanks for the article.

    Mimi

    Me too
    I rarely drink anymore, but I do miss it. Will still avoid it even though I have IDC ER+, not lobular ER+. One study is not enough and there are dozens of studies now implicating alcohol as a risk.
  • chenheart
    chenheart Member Posts: 5,159 Member
    #4
    CypressCynthia said:

    Me too
    I rarely drink anymore, but I do miss it. Will still avoid it even though I have IDC ER+, not lobular ER+. One study is not enough and there are dozens of studies now implicating alcohol as a risk.

    Party Pooper!
    Oh thanks! LOL I guess this puts the kabosh on the So Cal sisters dancing on the tables, wearing the lampshades from too much WOOT WOOT at the (RE) union on Saturday! You are just not helping me be the Ostrich I know I can be. Please~ stop with the medical facts!

    Kidding, of course~ thanks for the update~invaluable information for many of us. The more we know, the stronger we can become.

    Hugs,
    Chen♥
  • faith_trust_and_a_little_bit_of_chemotherapy
    faith_trust_and_a_little_bit_of_chemotherapy Member Posts: 319 Member
    #5
    CypressCynthia said:

    Me too
    I rarely drink anymore, but I do miss it. Will still avoid it even though I have IDC ER+, not lobular ER+. One study is not enough and there are dozens of studies now implicating alcohol as a risk.

    Once again perspective...
    is important.

    Remember, drinking is only one factor of many.

    Too, keep in mind who or what special interest is funding the study. As a grad student many years ago, I learned that the interpretation of statistics is quite subjective to the mindset of the individual doing the interpreting. That means that the same set of numbers can easily be shown to argue several positions. Also, scrutinize the sample, how large was the sample? Who was doing the drinking? Was it only casual drinking? Was it boxed wines or hard liquor? Again, lots of factors just within any given study.

    I'm not trying to be dismissive, but you can make yourself crazy over this stuff and there's no reason to beat yourself up over the life you had before the diagnosis.

    I would encourage all of us to look forward from our diagnosis and live our lives passionately.
  • faith_trust_and_a_little_bit_of_chemotherapy
    faith_trust_and_a_little_bit_of_chemotherapy Member Posts: 319 Member
    #6
    CypressCynthia said:

    Me too
    I rarely drink anymore, but I do miss it. Will still avoid it even though I have IDC ER+, not lobular ER+. One study is not enough and there are dozens of studies now implicating alcohol as a risk.

    ugh...
    I hate when this @#$%! thing locks up...

    Sorry, double post.
  • meena1
    meena1 Member Posts: 1,003
    #7
    faith_trust_and_a_little_bit_of_chemotherapy said:

    ugh...
    I hate when this @#$%! thing locks up...

    Sorry, double post.

    I had maybe an average of 1
    I had maybe an average of 1 drink a month!! ok, mayber there was a 2 margarita nite, but i still got breast cancer. I also ate lots of fruit, veggies, salads, used olive oil to cook, but i still got cancer. I was very active, walked, excercised, but i still got cancer, did not eat much red meat, ate salmon, but i still got cancer. I drank green tea, ate blueberries, still got cancer!
  • Snowkitty
    Snowkitty Member Posts: 295
    #8
    meena1 said:

    I had maybe an average of 1
    I had maybe an average of 1 drink a month!! ok, mayber there was a 2 margarita nite, but i still got breast cancer. I also ate lots of fruit, veggies, salads, used olive oil to cook, but i still got cancer. I was very active, walked, excercised, but i still got cancer, did not eat much red meat, ate salmon, but i still got cancer. I drank green tea, ate blueberries, still got cancer!

    The way I figure it is to
    The way I figure it is to drink red wine. Yeah. Anti-oxidents. Fruit of the vine. Lotsa good stuff in my box-o-wine.

    Cindy
  • sal314
    sal314 Member Posts: 599 Member
    #9
    meena1 said:

    I had maybe an average of 1
    I had maybe an average of 1 drink a month!! ok, mayber there was a 2 margarita nite, but i still got breast cancer. I also ate lots of fruit, veggies, salads, used olive oil to cook, but i still got cancer. I was very active, walked, excercised, but i still got cancer, did not eat much red meat, ate salmon, but i still got cancer. I drank green tea, ate blueberries, still got cancer!

    I Agree withn You Menna1!!
    I decided awhile back that life is to short to cut out the things you enjoy. If a drink every now and then is enough to give me cancer (again) then so be it. I believe it's all about moderation, being sensible and doing all the right things more often than not. I've known too many "raw food", vegan, marathon nuts who ended up getting cancer anyway. There are some things that we just can't control and are out of our hands.

    SO...I say eat, drink and be merry, just don't over due it! :)

    Sally
  • pitt
    pitt Member Posts: 387
    #10
    meena1 said:

    I had maybe an average of 1
    I had maybe an average of 1 drink a month!! ok, mayber there was a 2 margarita nite, but i still got breast cancer. I also ate lots of fruit, veggies, salads, used olive oil to cook, but i still got cancer. I was very active, walked, excercised, but i still got cancer, did not eat much red meat, ate salmon, but i still got cancer. I drank green tea, ate blueberries, still got cancer!

    Meena1 is speaking to me!!!
    I did everything right, and still got cancer. I'm going to live each day and not fall into the trap that somehow MY actions caused me to get cancer. I appreciate the info; I appreciate people doing research; I hope for a cure. But in the meantime: Life is short, so I plan to enjoy it and live! PS I went out to dinner this weekend and ate filet mignon with peppercorn sauce, fully loaded baked potato, and a beautiful glass of cabernet. OH SO GOOD!!! :-)
  • cahjah75
    cahjah75 Member Posts: 2,631
    #11
    Although I don't have
    the best eating habits I rarely drank alcohol in recent years. I was dx with Lyme disease last summer and was on antibiotics for 3 months. Prior to that I was on an antidepressant and the warnings are not to drink. So, I had a glass of wine every now and then on holidays. I ate organic fruits, veggies, fish, skim milk, green tea, etc. I had Invasive Lobular Carcinoma in my right breast (6.1cm tumor) and LCIS in the other breast, hence the bilateral mastectomy. I was also ER/PR+, HER2-. I'm the 5th in my family with bc but the only one with lobular which accounts for only 10-15% of all breast cancers. So, go figure!
    Char
  • Chickadee1955
    Chickadee1955 Member Posts: 356 Member
    #12
    cahjah75 said:

    Although I don't have
    the best eating habits I rarely drank alcohol in recent years. I was dx with Lyme disease last summer and was on antibiotics for 3 months. Prior to that I was on an antidepressant and the warnings are not to drink. So, I had a glass of wine every now and then on holidays. I ate organic fruits, veggies, fish, skim milk, green tea, etc. I had Invasive Lobular Carcinoma in my right breast (6.1cm tumor) and LCIS in the other breast, hence the bilateral mastectomy. I was also ER/PR+, HER2-. I'm the 5th in my family with bc but the only one with lobular which accounts for only 10-15% of all breast cancers. So, go figure!
    Char

    If you have to give up
    If you have to give up everything you love you aren't "living" anyway. I'll think I'll go pour me a glass of wine!!
  • cahjah75
    cahjah75 Member Posts: 2,631
    #13
    Chickadee1955 said:

    If you have to give up
    If you have to give up everything you love you aren't "living" anyway. I'll think I'll go pour me a glass of wine!!

    Have a glass
    for me while you're at it.
    Char
  • Chickadee1955
    Chickadee1955 Member Posts: 356 Member
    #14
    cahjah75 said:

    Have a glass
    for me while you're at it.
    Char

    You got it, Char! Hope
    You got it, Char! Hope you're okay with Merlot (gotta get those anti-oxidants)!
  • Jean 0609
    Jean 0609 Member Posts: 2,462
    #15
    Chickadee1955 said:

    You got it, Char! Hope
    You got it, Char! Hope you're okay with Merlot (gotta get those anti-oxidants)!

    Chickadee
    Have one for me too while you are at it please. I have my last chemo tomorrow, so can't drink it myself tonite! Hugs, Jean
  • Megan M
    Megan M Member Posts: 3,000
    #16
    Chickadee1955 said:

    If you have to give up
    If you have to give up everything you love you aren't "living" anyway. I'll think I'll go pour me a glass of wine!!

    I am right with you
    I am right with you Chickadee! Pour one for me too! LOL


    Hugs, Megan
  • Mama G
    Mama G Member Posts: 762
    #17
    Megan M said:

    I am right with you
    I am right with you Chickadee! Pour one for me too! LOL


    Hugs, Megan

    I'm right with you, MEENA!
    I also breastfed 4 kids for 2 - 3 years EACH! All the bases were covered, or so I thought.
    My sister even went to a specialist (can't remember what their called) to see if it was "family related" and they guaranteed her it was not! Go figure...
  • cookie97
    cookie97 Member Posts: 200
    #18
    Mama G said:

    I'm right with you, MEENA!
    I also breastfed 4 kids for 2 - 3 years EACH! All the bases were covered, or so I thought.
    My sister even went to a specialist (can't remember what their called) to see if it was "family related" and they guaranteed her it was not! Go figure...

    Here Here!
    I'll drink to that!!!

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