Calling all NPC Starters & Survivors

Hondo
Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
edited March 2014 in Head and Neck Cancer #1
Hi everyone I have notices that the NPC survivors are growing here on CSN and thought it good to get a list together so we could all recognize each other and better help others just starting treatment.

My NPC Started is Nov 2002, Last treatment was March 2005, I am almost 5 years survivor


Take care everyone
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  • HAWVET
    HAWVET Member Posts: 318
    Another NPC survivor
    NPC diagnosed in January 1998. Completed regular treatment in April 1998 and a special direct implant radiation for lymph node in June 1998.

    I do not think Hondo will mind, but could you indicate whether you served in Vietnam? I had one time tried to round up survivors in the military portion of this forum, but that section hardly have entries.

    Aloha to all.
  • Kent Cass
    Kent Cass Member Posts: 1,898 Member
    HAWVET said:

    Another NPC survivor
    NPC diagnosed in January 1998. Completed regular treatment in April 1998 and a special direct implant radiation for lymph node in June 1998.

    I do not think Hondo will mind, but could you indicate whether you served in Vietnam? I had one time tried to round up survivors in the military portion of this forum, but that section hardly have entries.

    Aloha to all.

    Another
    NPC diagnosed, with unknown Primary, in November of 2008= 15-month survivor. Treatment ended in early-April of 2009. Regional Cancer Center of the Quad Cities dealt with my NPC: 31 full head and neck rads, and 3 partial-rads; while getting two 96-hour stints of carrying Cisplatin and Flourouracil pumps in weeks #1 and #4; and, with a Port and PEG feeding tube in use for the endurance (and I still have both). Oto/ENT Dr. has direct ties to the U of Iowa in Iowa City. Returned to work a month after my last rad, and still employed.

    55 years-old, but not a Nam vet, Hawvet (4F, thanks to a car accident I was in when still 13, and resulted in a permanent respiratory handicap, after the initial 5 Ops in Freeport, Il., and another 18 Ops that followed at Rush-Presbyterian-St.Luke's in Chicago over the course of 26 months, total- what I went thru in those 26 months was my Nam). Have all the respect in the world for your Nam service, Hawvet- I am an American, and I do thank you for your service in the military in Nam. Yes.

    Hondo, Hawvet, and even the rookie who writes this, are proof that NPC is a C which one can survive. The treatment is very unpleasant, at best; but now, it seems, the lasting effects can be minimal, and well worth the cost of the battle.

    Believe.

    kcass
  • fsdman
    fsdman Member Posts: 51
    Hi Hondo,
    I was diagnosed

    Hi Hondo,
    I was diagnosed on 1/1/2009. Stage 1 NPC. I was very lucky to be caught so early.I was aware of the early symptoms because my older brother died of NPC about 15 years ago.I had a lump on my neck and one morning I got a nose bleed. I NEVER got a bloody nose so I went to ENT and told him I had NPC.He doubted it but I knew it.My treatments ended in April 35 rads -6 chemo.I lost 65 lbs and the tube saved my life. I cant imagine not getting the tube during treatment.I could hold nothing down.I live in CA and used medical marajuana during treatment. It was great help with appetite ,sleep and nausea.And sometimes it just made me forget for a while and gave a little euphoria.My DR thought it a good idea.I agree that our experience can help. I will add when I have something of value. By the way-did you look into the acuputure?That and staying on the salagen has been a huge help.I never thought I would ever be near as good as I am now.I never stopped pushing myself to get back to "normal".I rarely got off the couch during treatment but soon after it stopped I began to work on repairing all the damage we all know.But the absolute most important thing that got me through was my family. My wife was a 24/7 nurse whoallowed me to only concern myself with getting better.
  • debbiejeanne
    debbiejeanne Member Posts: 3,102 Member
    HAWVET said:

    Another NPC survivor
    NPC diagnosed in January 1998. Completed regular treatment in April 1998 and a special direct implant radiation for lymph node in June 1998.

    I do not think Hondo will mind, but could you indicate whether you served in Vietnam? I had one time tried to round up survivors in the military portion of this forum, but that section hardly have entries.

    Aloha to all.

    Vet
    HAWVET, praise God for your good news of survival from C. Also for your survival in Nam. I also wanted to thank you for your service. There are no words great enough to thank you and all the vets of any/all wars! The VETS and the soldiers who are fighting for us today deserve our utmost respect and gratitude!!! You will always be in my heart and in my prayers. I don't pass a person in uniform today without walking up to them and thanking them for freedom and their bravery! I can barely say it without crying because I feel so priviledged to be able to thank you. So, God Bless YOU and ALL VETS and SOLDIERS for what you have done / are doing for our Great Country!
    Also, I have to tell you that my husband and I have visited Hawaii 4 times and we both believe it is the most beautiful place on earth!! It is really God's little piece of Heaven on Earth!!
    God Bless,
    Debbie
  • HAWVET
    HAWVET Member Posts: 318
    fsdman said:

    Hi Hondo,
    I was diagnosed

    Hi Hondo,
    I was diagnosed on 1/1/2009. Stage 1 NPC. I was very lucky to be caught so early.I was aware of the early symptoms because my older brother died of NPC about 15 years ago.I had a lump on my neck and one morning I got a nose bleed. I NEVER got a bloody nose so I went to ENT and told him I had NPC.He doubted it but I knew it.My treatments ended in April 35 rads -6 chemo.I lost 65 lbs and the tube saved my life. I cant imagine not getting the tube during treatment.I could hold nothing down.I live in CA and used medical marajuana during treatment. It was great help with appetite ,sleep and nausea.And sometimes it just made me forget for a while and gave a little euphoria.My DR thought it a good idea.I agree that our experience can help. I will add when I have something of value. By the way-did you look into the acuputure?That and staying on the salagen has been a huge help.I never thought I would ever be near as good as I am now.I never stopped pushing myself to get back to "normal".I rarely got off the couch during treatment but soon after it stopped I began to work on repairing all the damage we all know.But the absolute most important thing that got me through was my family. My wife was a 24/7 nurse whoallowed me to only concern myself with getting better.

    Thank you
    Debbie. Your comments are really appreciated and I am sure you made many service men and women proud when you walked up and thanked them. This is especially true at airports since some would be returning from Iraq or Afghanistan. If you are old enough, you may remember that during our time, there were many protestors for that unpopular war. What really irked us was the burning of the flag and worse yet, it was deemed a right because of our nation's freedom of speech. Thank you also for visiting our islands since we rely heavily on the tourist industry.

    Kent. First, sorry to hear about your accident. I cannot imagine what you went through and later, to have NPC. That indeed was your Vietnam.

    I would like to provide some information on NPC veterans. As a survivor, you would know that NPC is very rare in our country. In fact, my Oncologist told me it normally is found more in China. In Vietnam, there was an insecticide sprayed all over the countryside to kill the foliage so the military could have a better view in jungle warfare. The result were many illnesses on those who served to include various forms of cancer. This is covered under the Agent Orange program.

    NPC was not one of the illnesses because there were too few cases to determine whether there was a relationship. I researched and discovered the incidence rate for those serving in Vietnam is far greater than our civilian population. Unfortunately, there are too few of us to make a difference or to overturn this ruling.

    Thank you Hondo for starting this thread.
  • frank10g
    frank10g Member Posts: 37
    HAWVET said:

    Thank you
    Debbie. Your comments are really appreciated and I am sure you made many service men and women proud when you walked up and thanked them. This is especially true at airports since some would be returning from Iraq or Afghanistan. If you are old enough, you may remember that during our time, there were many protestors for that unpopular war. What really irked us was the burning of the flag and worse yet, it was deemed a right because of our nation's freedom of speech. Thank you also for visiting our islands since we rely heavily on the tourist industry.

    Kent. First, sorry to hear about your accident. I cannot imagine what you went through and later, to have NPC. That indeed was your Vietnam.

    I would like to provide some information on NPC veterans. As a survivor, you would know that NPC is very rare in our country. In fact, my Oncologist told me it normally is found more in China. In Vietnam, there was an insecticide sprayed all over the countryside to kill the foliage so the military could have a better view in jungle warfare. The result were many illnesses on those who served to include various forms of cancer. This is covered under the Agent Orange program.

    NPC was not one of the illnesses because there were too few cases to determine whether there was a relationship. I researched and discovered the incidence rate for those serving in Vietnam is far greater than our civilian population. Unfortunately, there are too few of us to make a difference or to overturn this ruling.

    Thank you Hondo for starting this thread.

    NPC
    Hi All,
    I was diagnosed with stage 3 NPC last November. I didn't have a bleeding nose but my left ear was blocked for months, I didn't have it check because I thought it was nothing. Then I had several lumps on my glands under left and right jaws. That was when I went to see an ENT in Singapore. In South East Asia, this is the 4th most common CA. The Doc told me that one new NPC patient is diagnosed every day. He said the cause usually is because of one of this: Race (parents from South China), smoking (I stopped 15 years ago), diet high in salt (as in salted fish or egg, common in Asia), EBV virus. I thought I had a pretty healthy life style before this happened. I run 10K 3 times a week and drank healthy juice every morning (mostly fruits juice). Finised my treatment on January 10th and feeling pretty good now. I can eat all kind of foods but they don't taste as good, my taste buds have come back to 50-70%. My mouth is still dry and have to carry a bottle of water everywhere I go, the mucous has improved and can sleep through the night. My diet now is 95% vegetarian, I drink wheat grass juice instead of fruit juice and eat lots of grain in brown rice instead of white rice. No sugar and sea salt only.

    I have met several other NPC patients and the survival rate is pretty good, especially if it is caught early.

    Frank
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    frank10g said:

    NPC
    Hi All,
    I was diagnosed with stage 3 NPC last November. I didn't have a bleeding nose but my left ear was blocked for months, I didn't have it check because I thought it was nothing. Then I had several lumps on my glands under left and right jaws. That was when I went to see an ENT in Singapore. In South East Asia, this is the 4th most common CA. The Doc told me that one new NPC patient is diagnosed every day. He said the cause usually is because of one of this: Race (parents from South China), smoking (I stopped 15 years ago), diet high in salt (as in salted fish or egg, common in Asia), EBV virus. I thought I had a pretty healthy life style before this happened. I run 10K 3 times a week and drank healthy juice every morning (mostly fruits juice). Finised my treatment on January 10th and feeling pretty good now. I can eat all kind of foods but they don't taste as good, my taste buds have come back to 50-70%. My mouth is still dry and have to carry a bottle of water everywhere I go, the mucous has improved and can sleep through the night. My diet now is 95% vegetarian, I drink wheat grass juice instead of fruit juice and eat lots of grain in brown rice instead of white rice. No sugar and sea salt only.

    I have met several other NPC patients and the survival rate is pretty good, especially if it is caught early.

    Frank

    Hi Frank

    Thanks for posting and really glad to hear of the survival rate for NPC.

    Take care my friend
  • Kent Cass
    Kent Cass Member Posts: 1,898 Member
    Hondo said:

    Hi Frank

    Thanks for posting and really glad to hear of the survival rate for NPC.

    Take care my friend

    janymac
    janymac- we, of NPC, welcome you. I'm only 15-months, so your 8 years seems to me a pretty cool number. Did you experience a lot of gum tissue loss? Also, would appreciate hearing of your treatment specifics. Again- welcome.

    kcass
  • janymac
    janymac Member Posts: 35
    Kent Cass said:

    janymac
    janymac- we, of NPC, welcome you. I'm only 15-months, so your 8 years seems to me a pretty cool number. Did you experience a lot of gum tissue loss? Also, would appreciate hearing of your treatment specifics. Again- welcome.

    kcass

    hi
    Thanks for the welcome - it is great to see a site dedicated to NPC. It has been 8 years and am so pleased to ahve got this far, despite the complete struggle get here. I will be soon nudging into the "long term surviors" realm. I am sure that US use a different staging code to UK and anyway, things like that didn't really bother me. I had a largish tumour in the nasophyngeal space that didnot go to the bone.I had it also extensively in lymph nodes right down both sides of my neck. They radio'd from above my ears to the base of my neck for 7 weeks five days a week. I started off with 4 cycles of cisplatin and the fluorafluoracil (not spelt right!!) had to stay in hospital for continous infusions for 6 days and then let home until the next cycle. Was told that although in most cancers the radio is the easier part of the treatment, for head and neck it is by far the worstog the two and now having been through it and can look at it all objectively I would have to agree.Stopped being able to drink or eat at week two so they put a PEG in and had a hyper reaction to the radiotherapy and so spent 6 weeks in hosptial while they were giving it to me as was having lots of problems - hyper damage. Aparently this is quite unusual (for England at least) so they are learning off me as to what that means with long term side effects.

    Learning to eat has been monumental and still have problems, but have eaten enough to become a bit too tubby around the middle these days. Have, however, taught myself a lot of trick to be able to get that food down which I will share with you another day as it may help peole from my experiences. Have to go now though as very late here and my battery is about to give out.

    Great to meet you all
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    janymac said:

    hi
    Thanks for the welcome - it is great to see a site dedicated to NPC. It has been 8 years and am so pleased to ahve got this far, despite the complete struggle get here. I will be soon nudging into the "long term surviors" realm. I am sure that US use a different staging code to UK and anyway, things like that didn't really bother me. I had a largish tumour in the nasophyngeal space that didnot go to the bone.I had it also extensively in lymph nodes right down both sides of my neck. They radio'd from above my ears to the base of my neck for 7 weeks five days a week. I started off with 4 cycles of cisplatin and the fluorafluoracil (not spelt right!!) had to stay in hospital for continous infusions for 6 days and then let home until the next cycle. Was told that although in most cancers the radio is the easier part of the treatment, for head and neck it is by far the worstog the two and now having been through it and can look at it all objectively I would have to agree.Stopped being able to drink or eat at week two so they put a PEG in and had a hyper reaction to the radiotherapy and so spent 6 weeks in hosptial while they were giving it to me as was having lots of problems - hyper damage. Aparently this is quite unusual (for England at least) so they are learning off me as to what that means with long term side effects.

    Learning to eat has been monumental and still have problems, but have eaten enough to become a bit too tubby around the middle these days. Have, however, taught myself a lot of trick to be able to get that food down which I will share with you another day as it may help peole from my experiences. Have to go now though as very late here and my battery is about to give out.

    Great to meet you all

    Hi Janymac
    Glad to have you here with us and hope you plan to stay, there seams to be a number of us here now with this NPC. The idea of this tread is to lend support to the many others who are just starting. My first fight with this was in 2003 it came back again in 2004 and again in 2006. I have a lot of damage due to the treatment but I am glad to say I am alive with my new normal me.
  • Kent Cass
    Kent Cass Member Posts: 1,898 Member
    Hondo said:

    Hi Janymac
    Glad to have you here with us and hope you plan to stay, there seams to be a number of us here now with this NPC. The idea of this tread is to lend support to the many others who are just starting. My first fight with this was in 2003 it came back again in 2004 and again in 2006. I have a lot of damage due to the treatment but I am glad to say I am alive with my new normal me.

    Janymac
    Thank you. That is most interesting to me, because I was also treated with Cisplatin and Flourouracil: 31 full-rads in 20 places/session, then 3 partial-rads, and getting the chemos via pumps I carried for 96-hours in weeks #1 and #4 (feeding into my Port). Treatment was from February-April of 09. Interesting that we basically got the same treatment that many years apart, and very welcome to know about.

    Unknown Primary, the only place they really found the NPC was in the one (of the two) neck tumors on my left side they did a biopsy on. Only time I was hospitalized was at the start of week #6, when infection had kinda gotten ahold of me, fever spiked, and I needed some serious IV antibiotics.

    Long term- have you had serious dental problems?
    Any nerve damage?
    Still have dry mouth?

    Thank you.

    kcass
  • janymac
    janymac Member Posts: 35
    Kent Cass said:

    Janymac
    Thank you. That is most interesting to me, because I was also treated with Cisplatin and Flourouracil: 31 full-rads in 20 places/session, then 3 partial-rads, and getting the chemos via pumps I carried for 96-hours in weeks #1 and #4 (feeding into my Port). Treatment was from February-April of 09. Interesting that we basically got the same treatment that many years apart, and very welcome to know about.

    Unknown Primary, the only place they really found the NPC was in the one (of the two) neck tumors on my left side they did a biopsy on. Only time I was hospitalized was at the start of week #6, when infection had kinda gotten ahold of me, fever spiked, and I needed some serious IV antibiotics.

    Long term- have you had serious dental problems?
    Any nerve damage?
    Still have dry mouth?

    Thank you.

    kcass

    Gosh, you all seem to know
    Gosh, you all seem to know your radiotherapy inside out - I haven't a clue if mine were full or part radtions - we don't get told things like that. In fact during my time with it all, it was not routine to give chemo as well, they did it to me as I was only 35 with a young child. Seems perhaps it is standard now.

    I had a lump on the side of my neck , which I thought had gone, only to find out that it had got so big it had felt like it was part of my neck, so my diagnosis was by chance when I had tonsillitis and my throat swelled up to gigantic proportions as my cancered lymph nodes tried to also deal with the infection. I was so convinced he was going to tell me all it was was an infection that when he said the lymph nodes were cancerous, I actually said "no- you are not meant to say that, you are meant to say I have an infection"! I felt really silly afterwards. I have to say though that at first I was treating it all no more serious than if I had a chest infection and since you are thrown straight into treatment, I didn't really feel anything much emotionally until after it was all over as was so dissappointed that it took so long to recover, I think I had my reaction afterwards rather than at the start (if that makes sense!)I had so much expected my self to pick myself up and carry on as normal as everyone else seemed to following cancer, but reading this forum I now know that you have all had a difficult post recovery.The fatigue is really hard to make any effort some days.

    I think with side effects, you have to remember that I had a hyperreaction as my body started to close down during treatment and is very rare, so would hate everyone to think all my side effects would happen to them. Although lots of people get back their saliva, I have only in the last few months had a little bit of something than cannot really be called saliva, but is a distinct improvement for me and have always got a drink of some sort next to me.I have had some teeth damage as my front four teeth upper and lower, were turning black and I was very self consious. My dentist took the black bits out and filled them rather cleverly with white fillings. Also, in the early days they all felt a bit wobbly, but that settled, most of my fillings fell out which was a real problem as don't know about you all, but my mouth does not open wider than a couple of centimeters now so the dentist doesn't like me calling!! I also have sinus, hearing and balance problems, although the last only now shows up when I am really tired, or not concentrating.

    Swallowing is still a problem and cannot naturally swallow any solid food unless it is soft and covered in gravy or is soup so have a peculiar way of eating so that I can now eat many foods (including potato chips)in my own way. I have discovered that it is all down to having the right fluid to drink with the meal, and having the right combination of textures on the fork before you put it in the mouth (e.g. meat on a fork on its own I cannot swallow, but put it with a bit of potato gravy and a moist vegetable on the fork, then I can eat it. I take a medium sip of water while the food is in my mouth to mix it up and wet it so it becomes really sloppy, and then a bit more to swallow it with. I find hot drinks go best with bread and cold foods, use water for hot foods - for some reason it makes a big difference to me.I used to be the first to finish a meal in my house, but now I am the last to finish.There are some foods I won't attempt to eat, like a raw apple or carott, but also find my self eulogising about custard and gravies. Cooked mushrooms are a godsend.

    Just found out my carotid arteries - the ones in the neck -got damaged, but not sure yet what that means as it seems to be different to carotid disease. It might just mean my carotids no longer look very pretty, but have to go to the doctor for a chat.

    Can i just point out though despite the list of problems, I have found my self a new niche in life with a career change from nursing, which I am no longer fit enough to do , to being a full time librarian and have just completed a degree in librarianship.Although giving up nursing was a big thing for me as I had trained hard, now feel well settled with my change of career and back in control with my life.It has been a bit of a haul, but have felt better than I have done for a long time. Just started singing in a choir, despite my hearing and voice - not too sure I sing in tune anymore, but I am enjoying being alive and my social life is cranking up too.Life is good.
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    janymac said:

    Gosh, you all seem to know
    Gosh, you all seem to know your radiotherapy inside out - I haven't a clue if mine were full or part radtions - we don't get told things like that. In fact during my time with it all, it was not routine to give chemo as well, they did it to me as I was only 35 with a young child. Seems perhaps it is standard now.

    I had a lump on the side of my neck , which I thought had gone, only to find out that it had got so big it had felt like it was part of my neck, so my diagnosis was by chance when I had tonsillitis and my throat swelled up to gigantic proportions as my cancered lymph nodes tried to also deal with the infection. I was so convinced he was going to tell me all it was was an infection that when he said the lymph nodes were cancerous, I actually said "no- you are not meant to say that, you are meant to say I have an infection"! I felt really silly afterwards. I have to say though that at first I was treating it all no more serious than if I had a chest infection and since you are thrown straight into treatment, I didn't really feel anything much emotionally until after it was all over as was so dissappointed that it took so long to recover, I think I had my reaction afterwards rather than at the start (if that makes sense!)I had so much expected my self to pick myself up and carry on as normal as everyone else seemed to following cancer, but reading this forum I now know that you have all had a difficult post recovery.The fatigue is really hard to make any effort some days.

    I think with side effects, you have to remember that I had a hyperreaction as my body started to close down during treatment and is very rare, so would hate everyone to think all my side effects would happen to them. Although lots of people get back their saliva, I have only in the last few months had a little bit of something than cannot really be called saliva, but is a distinct improvement for me and have always got a drink of some sort next to me.I have had some teeth damage as my front four teeth upper and lower, were turning black and I was very self consious. My dentist took the black bits out and filled them rather cleverly with white fillings. Also, in the early days they all felt a bit wobbly, but that settled, most of my fillings fell out which was a real problem as don't know about you all, but my mouth does not open wider than a couple of centimeters now so the dentist doesn't like me calling!! I also have sinus, hearing and balance problems, although the last only now shows up when I am really tired, or not concentrating.

    Swallowing is still a problem and cannot naturally swallow any solid food unless it is soft and covered in gravy or is soup so have a peculiar way of eating so that I can now eat many foods (including potato chips)in my own way. I have discovered that it is all down to having the right fluid to drink with the meal, and having the right combination of textures on the fork before you put it in the mouth (e.g. meat on a fork on its own I cannot swallow, but put it with a bit of potato gravy and a moist vegetable on the fork, then I can eat it. I take a medium sip of water while the food is in my mouth to mix it up and wet it so it becomes really sloppy, and then a bit more to swallow it with. I find hot drinks go best with bread and cold foods, use water for hot foods - for some reason it makes a big difference to me.I used to be the first to finish a meal in my house, but now I am the last to finish.There are some foods I won't attempt to eat, like a raw apple or carott, but also find my self eulogising about custard and gravies. Cooked mushrooms are a godsend.

    Just found out my carotid arteries - the ones in the neck -got damaged, but not sure yet what that means as it seems to be different to carotid disease. It might just mean my carotids no longer look very pretty, but have to go to the doctor for a chat.

    Can i just point out though despite the list of problems, I have found my self a new niche in life with a career change from nursing, which I am no longer fit enough to do , to being a full time librarian and have just completed a degree in librarianship.Although giving up nursing was a big thing for me as I had trained hard, now feel well settled with my change of career and back in control with my life.It has been a bit of a haul, but have felt better than I have done for a long time. Just started singing in a choir, despite my hearing and voice - not too sure I sing in tune anymore, but I am enjoying being alive and my social life is cranking up too.Life is good.

    joined at the hips
    Hi janymac

    Sounds like we should be joined at the hips, you have just about most of my side affects except for the pain in the head and falling bold pressure that I have. My heart doc just did a scan of my carotids arteries and the one on the right side where I had the cancer and did most of the radiation is 40% blocked also the radiation damages something in my neck that its only job it to regulate blood pressure in the body. This week I have been having Kidney Stone problems so far they have not linked that to my radiation. I too have some of the same problems with my teeth and Jaw, can’t open it more then ½ inch, teeth are OK for now but have not seen a dentist in 5 years because mouth does not open wide enough and when they try to force it open I have even more problems later.

    Again thanks you for your support
  • janymac
    janymac Member Posts: 35
    Hondo said:

    joined at the hips
    Hi janymac

    Sounds like we should be joined at the hips, you have just about most of my side affects except for the pain in the head and falling bold pressure that I have. My heart doc just did a scan of my carotids arteries and the one on the right side where I had the cancer and did most of the radiation is 40% blocked also the radiation damages something in my neck that its only job it to regulate blood pressure in the body. This week I have been having Kidney Stone problems so far they have not linked that to my radiation. I too have some of the same problems with my teeth and Jaw, can’t open it more then ½ inch, teeth are OK for now but have not seen a dentist in 5 years because mouth does not open wide enough and when they try to force it open I have even more problems later.

    Again thanks you for your support

    Hi Hondo
    My blood pressure is the opposite to yours all of a sudden - completely sky high and have to go back next week to get another reading before starting meds which is why I had the carotid test. This is why I need to know what the damage to the carotids is about as want to avoid strokes at all costs as my husband has progressive MS and don't know what we would do if that happened. I am interested in what bit got damaged in you that regulates the blood pressure in you as may be that is what has happened to me with opposite effects - was it the hypothalamus? My BP is 200/106 on Friday and I am only 45 female. Its twice measure that level.

    I am also interested in your pain. Didn't mention it above, but I get bad spasms in my face, also get massive pain as if I have got earache, dental abcess and jaw pain all at once. Fotunately it isn't there all the time (other than when I was in treatment where is was there all the time), but seems to go in episodes.I think it is a throw back from the treatment, but can't work out what sets it off.

    Can I say, Hondo, my hat off to you for going through it three times - that must have taken lots of guts and can only imagine what that must have taken. You are a strong person.

    With my new way of eating, it wasn't something I did in the early days - it was about 4, months post treatment and there is a definate technique to it - used to put in too much water and then couldn't chew without dribbling and plenty of coughing and choking along the way. Have even sprayed people with food I thoguht I had swallowed, but hadn't and only came out when I spoke - sometimes days later. I now have it down to an artform, but do need to concentrate when I eat and cannot eat on the go and have to be careful about the fatigue as it can still come up and bite me if I have not been careful.
  • Kent Cass
    Kent Cass Member Posts: 1,898 Member
    janymac said:

    Hi Hondo
    My blood pressure is the opposite to yours all of a sudden - completely sky high and have to go back next week to get another reading before starting meds which is why I had the carotid test. This is why I need to know what the damage to the carotids is about as want to avoid strokes at all costs as my husband has progressive MS and don't know what we would do if that happened. I am interested in what bit got damaged in you that regulates the blood pressure in you as may be that is what has happened to me with opposite effects - was it the hypothalamus? My BP is 200/106 on Friday and I am only 45 female. Its twice measure that level.

    I am also interested in your pain. Didn't mention it above, but I get bad spasms in my face, also get massive pain as if I have got earache, dental abcess and jaw pain all at once. Fotunately it isn't there all the time (other than when I was in treatment where is was there all the time), but seems to go in episodes.I think it is a throw back from the treatment, but can't work out what sets it off.

    Can I say, Hondo, my hat off to you for going through it three times - that must have taken lots of guts and can only imagine what that must have taken. You are a strong person.

    With my new way of eating, it wasn't something I did in the early days - it was about 4, months post treatment and there is a definate technique to it - used to put in too much water and then couldn't chew without dribbling and plenty of coughing and choking along the way. Have even sprayed people with food I thoguht I had swallowed, but hadn't and only came out when I spoke - sometimes days later. I now have it down to an artform, but do need to concentrate when I eat and cannot eat on the go and have to be careful about the fatigue as it can still come up and bite me if I have not been careful.

    Fortunate Son
    Thanks for telling us what you have, Janymac. Very interesting, and impressive.

    I was fortunate. Cranial nerve was mentioned to me by the Drs. about a month after my last rad, when I experienced pain on the left side of my face, and ran all the way down my neck. But, mysteriously, it all went away! Only a couple days got bad. The earache thing is not uncommon. Again, I am fortunate, in that my bout with it was very brief. And, yes, the post-treatment times of struggle with depression/re-adjustment, I am living, still.

    Your husband has MS?! My Mom has it, too. She was first diagnosed at Mayo's back in the early-80's, so it's not all that progressive. Thing is, she's 80, now, and can't really do much without help: needs the 24-hour care. Does bring things into perspective for us, who have survived, and are better-off, now.

    Do you still get regular Pet Scans? I've heard it's every 6 months, post-treatment, then every year down the road.

    Thank you, Sister.


    kcass
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    janymac said:

    Hi Hondo
    My blood pressure is the opposite to yours all of a sudden - completely sky high and have to go back next week to get another reading before starting meds which is why I had the carotid test. This is why I need to know what the damage to the carotids is about as want to avoid strokes at all costs as my husband has progressive MS and don't know what we would do if that happened. I am interested in what bit got damaged in you that regulates the blood pressure in you as may be that is what has happened to me with opposite effects - was it the hypothalamus? My BP is 200/106 on Friday and I am only 45 female. Its twice measure that level.

    I am also interested in your pain. Didn't mention it above, but I get bad spasms in my face, also get massive pain as if I have got earache, dental abcess and jaw pain all at once. Fotunately it isn't there all the time (other than when I was in treatment where is was there all the time), but seems to go in episodes.I think it is a throw back from the treatment, but can't work out what sets it off.

    Can I say, Hondo, my hat off to you for going through it three times - that must have taken lots of guts and can only imagine what that must have taken. You are a strong person.

    With my new way of eating, it wasn't something I did in the early days - it was about 4, months post treatment and there is a definate technique to it - used to put in too much water and then couldn't chew without dribbling and plenty of coughing and choking along the way. Have even sprayed people with food I thoguht I had swallowed, but hadn't and only came out when I spoke - sometimes days later. I now have it down to an artform, but do need to concentrate when I eat and cannot eat on the go and have to be careful about the fatigue as it can still come up and bite me if I have not been careful.

    Hi Janymac
    I am not sure what it is called but the Heart Doc said it was something in the neck that tells the brain what to do about blood pressure, I don’t see him for another 6 weeks but when I do I will ask what the name of it is. I did find this web site on the brain and blood pressure, if you are like me I took a lot of radiation to the head and neck. My blood pressure is running sometime as low as 80/47.

    http://www.ehow.com/about_5300162_part-brain-controls-blood-pressure.html

    Also I have some nerve damage in the face under the left side and into the jaw, if I overexert my self my tongue will go numb and I get a very bad pain on the right side of the neck just under the Jaw bone.

    On my Cancer treatment I only had Radiation twice and Chemo once; when the NPC came back a third time the doc could only give me less then a 25% chance of being cured. At that point I was so bad off from the first two treatments I opt for no more and did a natural treatment, did it work I don’t know I am still here 5 years later.

    I know about the eating, I am first at the table and last to leave. Much of the same problems, but like you have learned how to survived.

    Take Care and Please keep in touch
  • Christmas
    Christmas Member Posts: 100
    NPC Survivor
    Count me as another NPC survivor! Chinese female from Hong Kong who grew up in the states. Diagnosed with stage 2 in August 2003. Treatment completed March 2004. I had 33 sessions of radiation in conjunction with chemotherapy. Had the cyber-knife Dec 2003. Living with the aftermath, but glad to be alive.

    Suggestion for other survivors with mucous problems -- my doctor gave me a huge syringe - I squirt plain warm water up both nostrils morning and night and as needed to keep my nose, ear, throat, and eyes cleared up.

    Problems with turkey/chicken neck? My neck still looks bad, but it has improved much by using a small foam paint roller to massage the neck and under the chin. Again, this was prescribed by my doctors at Stanford medical center as soon as my skin healed after the radiation.
  • janymac
    janymac Member Posts: 35
    Christmas said:

    NPC Survivor
    Count me as another NPC survivor! Chinese female from Hong Kong who grew up in the states. Diagnosed with stage 2 in August 2003. Treatment completed March 2004. I had 33 sessions of radiation in conjunction with chemotherapy. Had the cyber-knife Dec 2003. Living with the aftermath, but glad to be alive.

    Suggestion for other survivors with mucous problems -- my doctor gave me a huge syringe - I squirt plain warm water up both nostrils morning and night and as needed to keep my nose, ear, throat, and eyes cleared up.

    Problems with turkey/chicken neck? My neck still looks bad, but it has improved much by using a small foam paint roller to massage the neck and under the chin. Again, this was prescribed by my doctors at Stanford medical center as soon as my skin healed after the radiation.

    Welcome Christmas - the
    Welcome Christmas - the syringe I found worked well too once I worked out how much or little to use. Just as a tip - it should be salt water as it is more aligned to the ph of your mucous membranes (isotonic) and I notice it is more effective than plain water, but I have a lot of problems up there. However, if plain water seems to work effectively, then probably no need to worry. I now use sterimar which has a really good applicator, although is expensive and has made a big difference to me if I apply it lying down and use several squirts and loads of sniffing and coughing.

    Hondo, hope the natural stuff did good - you made the 5 year - congratualtions. WOnder if it is the carotid body which lies right inside the artery and does some regulation and logically would be damamged if artery is damaged. Must mention it to the GP next week.It is interesting ours are both so extrememly abonormal even if at different end of the spectrum.

    I don't get scans unless there is a problem and have never had a PET scan.They always are reluctant to scan becuase they know it will look highly abnormal with all the damamge and would then have to decide whether any lumps or holes were cancerous or not, so they go by symptoms.I do still my consultant regularly was 4 monthly, this time cos I had problems its 2 monthly.This is the UK way. NPC is very rare here indeed - is it in US?
  • Kent Cass
    Kent Cass Member Posts: 1,898 Member
    janymac said:

    Welcome Christmas - the
    Welcome Christmas - the syringe I found worked well too once I worked out how much or little to use. Just as a tip - it should be salt water as it is more aligned to the ph of your mucous membranes (isotonic) and I notice it is more effective than plain water, but I have a lot of problems up there. However, if plain water seems to work effectively, then probably no need to worry. I now use sterimar which has a really good applicator, although is expensive and has made a big difference to me if I apply it lying down and use several squirts and loads of sniffing and coughing.

    Hondo, hope the natural stuff did good - you made the 5 year - congratualtions. WOnder if it is the carotid body which lies right inside the artery and does some regulation and logically would be damamged if artery is damaged. Must mention it to the GP next week.It is interesting ours are both so extrememly abonormal even if at different end of the spectrum.

    I don't get scans unless there is a problem and have never had a PET scan.They always are reluctant to scan becuase they know it will look highly abnormal with all the damamge and would then have to decide whether any lumps or holes were cancerous or not, so they go by symptoms.I do still my consultant regularly was 4 monthly, this time cos I had problems its 2 monthly.This is the UK way. NPC is very rare here indeed - is it in US?

    Another Welcome
    Christmas- I echo Janymac's welcome, as I know all of NPC welcome you.

    Had not thought of the syringe thing. Still have two in their wrappers, from the days of feeding tube/PEG, and I just might try that. Seems the nights, in spite of the humidifier in my bedroom, still do a number on my nasal condition.

    Babe Ruth is the most famous of Americans to have had NPC. That's why I wear a Yankee baseball cap at my workplace. Has nothing to do with the last World Series, or this, or that. Have read there's only 2,000/year of NPC cases, on average, reported in the US, so it is kinda rare.

    Please stay active with the NPC. Hawvet and Hondo are the true Vets, and I'm the relative-rookie. Seems that you are also Vet, and I do truly applaud you. Mick is just starting- know he will appreciate all the help you can give him. You mentioned Stanford- is that where you were treated? My Drs. have ties to the U of Iowa.

    kcass
  • frank10g
    frank10g Member Posts: 37
    Kent Cass said:

    Another Welcome
    Christmas- I echo Janymac's welcome, as I know all of NPC welcome you.

    Had not thought of the syringe thing. Still have two in their wrappers, from the days of feeding tube/PEG, and I just might try that. Seems the nights, in spite of the humidifier in my bedroom, still do a number on my nasal condition.

    Babe Ruth is the most famous of Americans to have had NPC. That's why I wear a Yankee baseball cap at my workplace. Has nothing to do with the last World Series, or this, or that. Have read there's only 2,000/year of NPC cases, on average, reported in the US, so it is kinda rare.

    Please stay active with the NPC. Hawvet and Hondo are the true Vets, and I'm the relative-rookie. Seems that you are also Vet, and I do truly applaud you. Mick is just starting- know he will appreciate all the help you can give him. You mentioned Stanford- is that where you were treated? My Drs. have ties to the U of Iowa.

    kcass

    Bad but not sooo bad... :)
    Hello everybody,
    I just went to my onco and ENT for 6 week post treatment check up yesterday. They are very happy with the results, the cancers responded well to the treatment. According to my ENT who is in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, NPC has excellent survival rate if it hasn't spread to other parts of the body, like brain or bone or lungs. He handles lots of NPC patients because it is quite common in Asia.
    So far I have improved so much since the last treatment. My mucous has reduced by about 80%, saliva still thick, taste back 50-60%. Appetite is good, head is clear and spirit is up. So I just want to share with new patients that it is a tough ride going through radiation and chemo but when all is done... it's not sooooo bad... :)
    Frank