Oncs prescribing tests

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  • dyaneb123
    dyaneb123 Member Posts: 950
    Doppler
    Way cool actually,it's a kind of sonogram that looks just like the weather thing , but it looks at your blood vessels to see if they are open and pumping blood. I had to have it cause my surgeon accidently cut an axillary vein during my lymph node removal....caused a huge hematoma and he was worried about it causing lymphodema....but everything seems to be pumping....
  • outdoorgirl
    outdoorgirl Member Posts: 1,565
    dyaneb123 said:

    Doppler
    Way cool actually,it's a kind of sonogram that looks just like the weather thing , but it looks at your blood vessels to see if they are open and pumping blood. I had to have it cause my surgeon accidently cut an axillary vein during my lymph node removal....caused a huge hematoma and he was worried about it causing lymphodema....but everything seems to be pumping....

    That's good!
    That's good news! Thanks for explaining-I kind of wondered if it had something to do with the weather doppler!
  • CR1954
    CR1954 Member Posts: 1,390 Member
    Moopy23 said:

    Patty, Tasha, and CR
    Your supportive and loving messages make me cry. I am so grateful for your understanding and ashamed of myself.

    My news is not a recurrence but something that was missed earlier and changes my radiation treatments. Joe thought we would see more curveballs--guess I wasn't expecting one so soon. But I will grow stronger and more optimistic again with you all behind me.

    Thank you my friends and sisters.

    Moopy

    Awwwwww Moopy....
    This whole darn cancer thing is full of curveballs, and I'm really very sorry about this happening to you. You and Joe have been so wonderful about cheering everyone else on and none of us wants to see any setbacks or new problems arise for you.

    Please don't ever be ashamed or sorry for anything that you say or feel. Everyone knows you Moopy, and we have all been touched by your optimism and spirit, your concern and caring. You have certainly been an inspiration to me in dealing with the ups and downs of this insideous disease.

    I just know that even though plans have changed a bit for you, you will tackle this head on, and you will meet the challenge in usual "Moopy style"!

    Giant hugs for you,
    CR
  • Aortus
    Aortus Member Posts: 967

    That's good!
    That's good news! Thanks for explaining-I kind of wondered if it had something to do with the weather doppler!

    That's REALLY good!
    With all the 43 different flavors of Doppler weather radar, it's nice to see ol' Doppler doing something for the medical community. I am so happy for this good news and Moopy will be as well!

    Joe
  • dyaneb123
    dyaneb123 Member Posts: 950
    Thanks guys...Yeah I like it
    Thanks guys...Yeah I like it when I can lay and watch the stuff on the machines...even the biopsy was cool to watch..is that wierd? :)
  • Aortus
    Aortus Member Posts: 967
    dyaneb123 said:

    Thanks guys...Yeah I like it
    Thanks guys...Yeah I like it when I can lay and watch the stuff on the machines...even the biopsy was cool to watch..is that wierd? :)

    The biopsy maybe
    Years ago I had an ultrasound of my liver. Moopy sat alongside the tech and watched. She asked the guy what that cloud of stuff floating around in my belly was, and he replied that it was intestinal gas.

    Moopy's response: "Great. I get to hear it and I get to smell it, and now I get to watch it too?"
  • outdoorgirl
    outdoorgirl Member Posts: 1,565
    dyaneb123 said:

    Thanks guys...Yeah I like it
    Thanks guys...Yeah I like it when I can lay and watch the stuff on the machines...even the biopsy was cool to watch..is that wierd? :)

    Not wierd,
    but then I'm the kind of person who likes to watch the real trauma shows on the Discovery Health channel. Just would never want to watch them doing surgery on me-I don't even like to look at the instruments or anything like that when they wheel me into the OR room!!
  • dyaneb123
    dyaneb123 Member Posts: 950

    Not wierd,
    but then I'm the kind of person who likes to watch the real trauma shows on the Discovery Health channel. Just would never want to watch them doing surgery on me-I don't even like to look at the instruments or anything like that when they wheel me into the OR room!!

    Ha! That's funny Joe!I
    Ha! That's funny Joe!I didn't know you could see gas!

    Yeah Outdoorgirl, I'd like to watch the actual surgery(well maybe not the mastectomy) but the going in and looking around is cool.I'd probably have like watching the lymph node removal...maybe I missed my calling...
  • cats_toy
    cats_toy Member Posts: 1,462 Member
    dyaneb123 said:

    Thanks guys...Yeah I like it
    Thanks guys...Yeah I like it when I can lay and watch the stuff on the machines...even the biopsy was cool to watch..is that wierd? :)

    love the technology
    and it is getting better all the time (there is a song there). I love watching, I watched my needle biopsy, looked at my bone scans, mammos, etc. I even asked them to take pictures in the surgery room but they said they couldn't. Then when my brother went through his quintuple bypass, he asked the anesthesiologist, and got two pictures taken of his heart literally in the hands of his surgeon! too cool!
    =^..^=
  • dyaneb123
    dyaneb123 Member Posts: 950
    cats_toy said:

    love the technology
    and it is getting better all the time (there is a song there). I love watching, I watched my needle biopsy, looked at my bone scans, mammos, etc. I even asked them to take pictures in the surgery room but they said they couldn't. Then when my brother went through his quintuple bypass, he asked the anesthesiologist, and got two pictures taken of his heart literally in the hands of his surgeon! too cool!
    =^..^=

    oh that's awesome. I once
    oh that's awesome. I once had an 8lb fibroid tumor removed...the Doc.kept a photo but I didn't get a copy.It was cool in the grossest kind of way .....
  • outdoorgirl
    outdoorgirl Member Posts: 1,565
    dyaneb123 said:

    oh that's awesome. I once
    oh that's awesome. I once had an 8lb fibroid tumor removed...the Doc.kept a photo but I didn't get a copy.It was cool in the grossest kind of way .....

    dyaneb123 and Cats Toy
    That is pretty neat, the both of you,especially the heart in the hand! Speaking of bodies and body parts,did you guys ever see that exhibit"Bodies"? That was too cool!! What was a little strange was before I was diagnosed,I was aware of my lump(but thinking it was probably fibroid tissue like they said) and I went to the exhibit then. They actually showed,(not just a picture) a real breast cancer tumor! I think it was then when I really felt like I should bring it to someone's attention-but I didn't,and I don't know why. Oh well,you can't change the past-only learn from it for the future!
  • outdoorgirl
    outdoorgirl Member Posts: 1,565
    cats_toy said:

    love the technology
    and it is getting better all the time (there is a song there). I love watching, I watched my needle biopsy, looked at my bone scans, mammos, etc. I even asked them to take pictures in the surgery room but they said they couldn't. Then when my brother went through his quintuple bypass, he asked the anesthesiologist, and got two pictures taken of his heart literally in the hands of his surgeon! too cool!
    =^..^=

    Cats-toy
    I assume that picture is you. You're beautiful!!
  • cats_toy
    cats_toy Member Posts: 1,462 Member

    dyaneb123 and Cats Toy
    That is pretty neat, the both of you,especially the heart in the hand! Speaking of bodies and body parts,did you guys ever see that exhibit"Bodies"? That was too cool!! What was a little strange was before I was diagnosed,I was aware of my lump(but thinking it was probably fibroid tissue like they said) and I went to the exhibit then. They actually showed,(not just a picture) a real breast cancer tumor! I think it was then when I really felt like I should bring it to someone's attention-but I didn't,and I don't know why. Oh well,you can't change the past-only learn from it for the future!

    body exhibit
    I wanted to see that exhibit when it came to LA but never made it. Maybe it's still here. Don't beat yourself up about ignoring the lump, I did it too for over a year. The only reason I finally went and had it checked was because my mom got diagnosed. She had her first mammo at 70, and they found a lump. Smaller than mine and no node involvement, thank god, she could not have handled chemo at her age.
    We all hide the bad things from ourselves to a certain extent don't we?
    and yes, the pictures of my brothers heart are amazing, and now no one can tell him what a heartless **** he is anymore..............
    =^..^=
  • cats_toy
    cats_toy Member Posts: 1,462 Member

    Cats-toy
    I assume that picture is you. You're beautiful!!

    yes me
    and thanks! what a nice compliment! but don't look too close you may change your mind.
    that was in 05, way before any of this bc crap happened. I do have one on my expressions page when my hair was growing back in too.
    =^..^=
  • outdoorgirl
    outdoorgirl Member Posts: 1,565
    cats_toy said:

    yes me
    and thanks! what a nice compliment! but don't look too close you may change your mind.
    that was in 05, way before any of this bc crap happened. I do have one on my expressions page when my hair was growing back in too.
    =^..^=

    You're still
    beautiful!
    Hey,have you found those pink ribbon tassles yet?
  • Christmas Girl
    Christmas Girl Member Posts: 3,682 Member
    mimivac said:

    Testing
    Patty, my onc. is like yours. She won't prescribe testing or scans unless I am symptomatic. For instance, I have never had chest xrays, pet scans, or CAT scans. She only does the testing she deems necessary. As we go forward after treatments end, she will do regular blood tests and a tumor marker, but no regular scans. She is, however, open to scans if I am anxious and need to know for peace of mind. I don't. I think it's important for a doctor to be flexible and allow testing if it doesn't put the patient at significant risk, if that's what the patient needs to feel protected. I don't think a doctor should just categorically deny testing. The patient's needs and intuition about her body should be factored in.

    Mimi

    Hey, outdoorgirl...
    My own onc is much like yours, and Mimi's. He a BC specialist - doesn't treat any other type of cancer. And affiliated with one of the two local universities with major medical programs. Involved with clinical trials, too - has even spearheaded a few. So, I'm exceedingly grateful to have been referred to him. And, am utterly confident in his care. That being said... Yes, medicine is a combination of science (technology, drugs, procedures, etc.) and art (human knowledge, experience, etc.). It's not (yet) perfect. The human body is not like a car; therefore, doctors cannot function like mechanics. Even the best doctors can make "mistakes"...

    With all that being said - my onc doesn't believe in "unnecessary" tests. I know this because I've wondered and asked about other things, too.(*) He thinks they cause too much stress and anxiety for the patient. Prior to, during, waiting for results that show "nothing"... How many threads and posts are there here about the anguish of waiting for results?

    I had a myriad of tests: pre-surgery, post-surgery, pre-chemo, during chemo, post-chemo, etc. ... At this point, I have regular follow-up appointments which include thorough physical exams, blood work for various things, annual bone density scans (because of the meds). In addition, there are the all important yearly mammos and visits to my ob/gyne (crucial), etc. ... One thing I did after BC diagnosis, I consolidated ALL of my doctors under the same health care organization (exceptions: eye doctor & dentist, because I love them both - and, they're very close by). Therefore, ALL of my doctors - including the non-BC ones - have access to EVERYTHING via computer. I never have to get copies, take them with, drop them off, and all that jazz. If this is possible, I highly recommend it.

    (*) How many times do we remind others that every patient and their diagnosis is unique, and every patient's treatments and - importantly - response to their treatments are, therefore, not the same. Some times, we need to remind our own selves of this, I think.

    Kind regards, Susan
  • cats_toy
    cats_toy Member Posts: 1,462 Member

    You're still
    beautiful!
    Hey,have you found those pink ribbon tassles yet?

    pink tassles
    guess I have to go shopping!!!!
    =^..^=
  • dyaneb123
    dyaneb123 Member Posts: 950
    cats_toy said:

    pink tassles
    guess I have to go shopping!!!!
    =^..^=

    I saw in expressions that
    I saw in expressions that you were enjoying a Bloody Mary...I asked the Onc. about the Mojito
    question and he said if I want one during chemo...go for it..I think the idea being that I probably wont want one....
  • cats_toy
    cats_toy Member Posts: 1,462 Member
    dyaneb123 said:

    I saw in expressions that
    I saw in expressions that you were enjoying a Bloody Mary...I asked the Onc. about the Mojito
    question and he said if I want one during chemo...go for it..I think the idea being that I probably wont want one....

    Mojitos
    Dee, I don't know what a mojito is, but you may have a bad day, or maybe even a few bad days after chemo. I only had queasiness, never got sick, and the only time food or drink was a problem were in those first days. The rest of the time between sessions were pretty much normal. Have your mojito if you wish. I will raise glass to you when you do! The Bloody Marys were my dad's best drink mix, so he would make them for us alot. We usually started Christmas Morning with one!
    Let us know how you do!
    =^..^-=
  • dyaneb123
    dyaneb123 Member Posts: 950
    cats_toy said:

    Mojitos
    Dee, I don't know what a mojito is, but you may have a bad day, or maybe even a few bad days after chemo. I only had queasiness, never got sick, and the only time food or drink was a problem were in those first days. The rest of the time between sessions were pretty much normal. Have your mojito if you wish. I will raise glass to you when you do! The Bloody Marys were my dad's best drink mix, so he would make them for us alot. We usually started Christmas Morning with one!
    Let us know how you do!
    =^..^-=

    Ok pot seed muffins and
    Ok pot seed muffins and mojitos....my chemo diet of choice!