the medical staff are judging us

Hope I am on the good side

Annie

P.s I do agree with your sentiments but don’t agree 100%

foxhd said:

Annie

No intent to judge others. We take our health for  granted. It must be so scarey to be ill equipped for  the challenge. There are also those who never are on time for anything. Unable to be effective in any self discipline. Responsibility starts with ourselves and we all have issues. If one cannot take care of one self pre diagnosis, the deck is stacked against  them. Often the phrase, "Why me?" says a lot. Patterns emerge to health care professionals. This can account for why people with similar medical dx recieve such different plans of care.

Truth right here!

foxhd said:

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Jan 11, 2018 - 4:20 pm Here is the abstract Prevention of kidney cancer incidence and recurrence: lifestyle, medication and nutrition. Tahbaz R1, Schmid M2, Merseburger AS3. Author information Abstract PURPOSE OF REVIEW: The incidence of kidney cancer rises globally with the highest rates in developed countries. This demonstrates the impact of advanced diagnostic imaging but also rising prevalence of modifiable risk factors such as smoking, obesity and hypertension. A literature search was performed with focus on recent studies on risk factors related to lifestyle, medication and nutrition. Further we searched for the effect of cancer prevention strategies. RECENT FINDINGS: Overall, we included 76 studies of the past 5 years. Based on current evidence smoking tobacco, obesity and hypertension remain established risk factors for kidney cancer. Certain analgesics and consumption of processed meat have been linked to increase development of renal cell carcinoma, although data are limited. Fruits, fiber-rich vegetables, coffee and physical activity may have a protective effect against kidney cancer but causal conclusions are not yet supported. Significantly, there is an increasing evidence of inverse association between moderate alcohol consumption. SUMMARY: Overall evidence confirms an effective way to prevent the risk of kidney cancer is maintaining a healthy weight and avoid smoking. State policies should further ensure strategies to raise public awareness and support to adopt healthy lifestyles.   If this is true pre diagnosis, it remains there post diagnosis. It is a survival tool. You have to take care of yourself.

and agreed

thankfully I don’t have to change anything although I have stopped excerising( not high impact but was consistent) since my husband died and have put some weight on

BTW my husband and I were no smokers, drinks on birthday and Xmas, never did drugs, fresh food only... we loved to preach to anyone about our health beliefs

he got lung cancer and passed away

i got renal cancer

my Irish friends  are smoking and drinking without a care in the world and now preaching to me

The jewish man I know never smoked or drank in his life  got stomach cancer  but is surviving

but foxy is 100% correct

the operation showed me I should be back at my pre widow weight so I am on the case

and I have been wallowing in grief

wonderful people like fox and Donna have showen  that life is here right now

and thanks to Stubb for his ever knowledgeable insights

Annie

Loved you from day one!  Wisdom like no other.  Although I haven't always agreed with you, I value your opinion like no other, truly.

You are cherished!

Donna~

I also want to add my thank you to all of the others here. I also have some good news to share along the lines of what you have expressed. Last year was such a horrible one- we found out my hubby had mets, he had a bowel perforation, our dog died,  alot of trouble with various doctors, etc.. The good news is that when 2018 hit, I decided to let go of worrying once and for all. I am accepting that what happens will happen. Every day I do everything I can to make my husbands journey with RCC easier. I also am taking better care of myself after realizing how much worrying and stressing out was making me sick (I had the flu for 3 weeks-it was so bad the dr. thought I might have pneumonia). Thank you for being there and for reminding me to be strong and take care of myself while I take care of the man I love.

 I'm grateful for the guy who started this thread, and all those who responded. Sometimes you need a reminder about self care and self discipline after a temporary slide in attitude. Those winter doldrums can get you some days, but yesterday the sun was shining, the birds were singing and then I read this thread. Time to start again:)                                                                                  

foxhd said:

Annie,

It makes no sense. I have a friend who is overweight, lazy, almost illiterate.  He actually says that watching tv is his hobby. I used to try to get him to ex. with me. He would laugh. He said it doesn't matter how much time I waste exercising. Because he would outlive me. He says everyone in his family always lives well into their 90's. Genetics. Some get good ones, some don't.

getting RCC and having led an exemplary and healthy lifestyle is a bit of a kick in the guts, but I like to think that if you are in bad shape when you get this diagnosis  (and the next diagnosis - because in life there is usually something) your ability to deal with it is so much worse, if you have other health issues, mobility due to weight, blood pressure, diabetes, exisiting renal failure, COPD from smoking, these are all the common ones I see in older - have lived a poor lifestyle - people.

All the well known big risk factors weight, smoking, lack of cardiovascular fitness, they don't always make you live less long, but they usually almost definately make you live less well.   Your mate might joke about TV being his hobby, thing is, if he ever wanted to go do something else (like travel to a mountain and climb it) he might find out that he isn't capable, he has trained to sit and watch TV and that is what he will be fit for.    And god forbid he does get something that requires surgery, he might trip over tear a cruciate ligament on the way to the fridge, he may find his subsequent treatment and recovery are way harder and more complicated than necessary.   His choice.   Probably won't be laughing then.   And yes there are always outliers, those that have a terrible time and shouldn't have and those that sail through and shouldn't have, but the statistics don't lie.  

As you have said before, your fitness has been a big bonus to your ability to undergo continued treatment. 

Thanks for all that you do on the board Fox.  

Fox, As a new member to your board, finding your post fills me with hope. Thank you.