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Annie
No intent to judge others. We take our health for granted. It must be so scarey to be ill equipped for the challenge. There are also those who never are on time for anything. Unable to be effective in any self discipline. Responsibility starts with ourselves and we all have issues. If one cannot take care of one self pre diagnosis, the deck is stacked against them. Often the phrase, "Why me?" says a lot. Patterns emerge to health care professionals. This can account for why people with similar medical dx recieve such different plans of care.
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Dear God
the medical staff are judging us
Hope I am on the good side
Annie
P.s I do agree with your sentiments but don’t agree 100%
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I like to think
We're cut from the same cloth, Fox. We've PMed each other numerous times about this topic and I think you know my drive and stubbornness to compete and never cry "uncle". Sure prior health is crazy important, but even bigger is the mental fortitude it takes to never quit. I'm not talking about this glossy, cover statement "I'm going to fight this," I'm talking about a sincere belief that you will survive. That you can handle most anything thrown at you and still stand up and say--"kiss my a**".
Coupled with good health, mental toughness gives you the biggest advantage.
Take care--
Stub
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Lobbiest post in diet thread;
Posts: 250
Joined: Sep 2016Jan 11, 2018 - 4:20 pmPrevention of kidney cancer incidence and recurrence: lifestyle, medication and nutrition.
Abstract
PURPOSE OF REVIEW:
The incidence of kidney cancer rises globally with the highest rates in developed countries. This demonstrates the impact of advanced diagnostic imaging but also rising prevalence of modifiable risk factors such as smoking, obesity and hypertension. A literature search was performed with focus on recent studies on risk factors related to lifestyle, medication and nutrition. Further we searched for the effect of cancer prevention strategies.
RECENT FINDINGS:
Overall, we included 76 studies of the past 5 years. Based on current evidence smoking tobacco, obesity and hypertension remain established risk factors for kidney cancer. Certain analgesics and consumption of processed meat have been linked to increase development of renal cell carcinoma, although data are limited. Fruits, fiber-rich vegetables, coffee and physical activity may have a protective effect against kidney cancer but causal conclusions are not yet supported. Significantly, there is an increasing evidence of inverse association between moderate alcohol consumption.
SUMMARY:
Overall evidence confirms an effective way to prevent the risk of kidney cancer is maintaining a healthy weight and avoid smoking. State policies should further ensure strategies to raise public awareness and support to adopt healthy lifestyles.
If this is true pre diagnosis, it remains there post diagnosis. It is a survival tool. You have to take care of yourself.
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Foxy, you continue to inspire
Foxy, you continue to inspire us! Your strength, knowledge and compassion are just a few of the things I admire.
We do need to take care of our bodies. In October, my oldest sister (turning 68 next week) had a heart attack. She has chronic leukemia, but it has been under control for years. She has never smoked, doesn't drink, exercises and eats right. I saw her a few days before her heart attack. She was extremely worried about her daughter who was going through a rough patch. I reminded her that worrying won't help matters...easier said than done. After she left I mentioned to my other sisters how stressed she seemed. I could hear it in her voice. A few days later she had the heart attack (went to her daughter's to help her move - not a thing was packed - she had the attack a few minutes after arrival). She had bypass surgery within 30 minutes. Now - I am sure because of her taking care of her body - she has bounced back to glowing medical reports! I keep reminding her to stop worrying. I am guilty of the same trait. It is difficult to stop....but I have cut down a lot (in fact after hearing the news of my sister's heart attack, my oldest son reminded me that this could happen to me and to stop worrying about my youngest son - I understand fully how this can happen!)
Just like the directions of airline stewards: in case of troubles, take the oxygen for yourself first, so you can care for those who need it. We need to take care of ourselves first. Only we can do it for ourselves.
Love you Foxy....glad you are taking care of yourself - because we need you here!!
Hugs
Jojo
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Truth right here!foxhd said:Annie
No intent to judge others. We take our health for granted. It must be so scarey to be ill equipped for the challenge. There are also those who never are on time for anything. Unable to be effective in any self discipline. Responsibility starts with ourselves and we all have issues. If one cannot take care of one self pre diagnosis, the deck is stacked against them. Often the phrase, "Why me?" says a lot. Patterns emerge to health care professionals. This can account for why people with similar medical dx recieve such different plans of care.
Truth right here!
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Thank you
Your attitude and reminders and even occasional chiding
have been so helpful to me! You may not realize it, but you were a big inspiration for me to lose the weight I lost this year. Thank you!I think of you and your posts whenever I need reminding to be grateful, to not waste time living in fear and worry, and to keep going no matter what. You're positive, can-do attitude has reminded me that I can do what I need to do to move forward. You've taught me being a victim is a choice and for that I'm eternally grateful.
Hugs,
Todd
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Thank youfoxhd said:Lobbiest post in diet thread;
Posts: 250
Joined: Sep 2016Jan 11, 2018 - 4:20 pmPrevention of kidney cancer incidence and recurrence: lifestyle, medication and nutrition.
Abstract
PURPOSE OF REVIEW:
The incidence of kidney cancer rises globally with the highest rates in developed countries. This demonstrates the impact of advanced diagnostic imaging but also rising prevalence of modifiable risk factors such as smoking, obesity and hypertension. A literature search was performed with focus on recent studies on risk factors related to lifestyle, medication and nutrition. Further we searched for the effect of cancer prevention strategies.
RECENT FINDINGS:
Overall, we included 76 studies of the past 5 years. Based on current evidence smoking tobacco, obesity and hypertension remain established risk factors for kidney cancer. Certain analgesics and consumption of processed meat have been linked to increase development of renal cell carcinoma, although data are limited. Fruits, fiber-rich vegetables, coffee and physical activity may have a protective effect against kidney cancer but causal conclusions are not yet supported. Significantly, there is an increasing evidence of inverse association between moderate alcohol consumption.
SUMMARY:
Overall evidence confirms an effective way to prevent the risk of kidney cancer is maintaining a healthy weight and avoid smoking. State policies should further ensure strategies to raise public awareness and support to adopt healthy lifestyles.
If this is true pre diagnosis, it remains there post diagnosis. It is a survival tool. You have to take care of yourself.
and agreed
thankfully I don’t have to change anything although I have stopped excerising( not high impact but was consistent) since my husband died and have put some weight on
BTW my husband and I were no smokers, drinks on birthday and Xmas, never did drugs, fresh food only... we loved to preach to anyone about our health beliefs
he got lung cancer and passed away
i got renal cancer
my Irish friends are smoking and drinking without a care in the world and now preaching to me
The jewish man I know never smoked or drank in his life got stomach cancer but is surviving
but foxy is 100% correct
the operation showed me I should be back at my pre widow weight so I am on the case
and I have been wallowing in grief
wonderful people like fox and Donna have showen that life is here right now
and thanks to Stubb for his ever knowledgeable insights
Annie
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Annie,Wehavenotimeatall said:Thank you
and agreed
thankfully I don’t have to change anything although I have stopped excerising( not high impact but was consistent) since my husband died and have put some weight on
BTW my husband and I were no smokers, drinks on birthday and Xmas, never did drugs, fresh food only... we loved to preach to anyone about our health beliefs
he got lung cancer and passed away
i got renal cancer
my Irish friends are smoking and drinking without a care in the world and now preaching to me
The jewish man I know never smoked or drank in his life got stomach cancer but is surviving
but foxy is 100% correct
the operation showed me I should be back at my pre widow weight so I am on the case
and I have been wallowing in grief
wonderful people like fox and Donna have showen that life is here right now
and thanks to Stubb for his ever knowledgeable insights
Annie
It makes no sense. I have a friend who is overweight, lazy, almost illiterate. He actually says that watching tv is his hobby. I used to try to get him to ex. with me. He would laugh. He said it doesn't matter how much time I waste exercising. Because he would outlive me. He says everyone in his family always lives well into their 90's. Genetics. Some get good ones, some don't.
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Thank you Fox
I also want to add my thank you to all of the others here. I also have some good news to share along the lines of what you have expressed. Last year was such a horrible one- we found out my hubby had mets, he had a bowel perforation, our dog died, alot of trouble with various doctors, etc.. The good news is that when 2018 hit, I decided to let go of worrying once and for all. I am accepting that what happens will happen. Every day I do everything I can to make my husbands journey with RCC easier. I also am taking better care of myself after realizing how much worrying and stressing out was making me sick (I had the flu for 3 weeks-it was so bad the dr. thought I might have pneumonia). Thank you for being there and for reminding me to be strong and take care of myself while I take care of the man I love.
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Thank you Fox
I also want to add my thank you to all of the others here. I also have some good news to share along the lines of what you have expressed. Last year was such a horrible one- we found out my hubby had mets, he had a bowel perforation, our dog died, alot of trouble with various doctors, etc.. The good news is that when 2018 hit, I decided to let go of worrying once and for all. I am accepting that what happens will happen. Every day I do everything I can to make my husbands journey with RCC easier. I also am taking better care of myself after realizing how much worrying and stressing out was making me sick (I had the flu for 3 weeks-it was so bad the dr. thought I might have pneumonia). Thank you for being there and for reminding me to be strong and take care of myself while I take care of the man I love.
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You are what I needed right now
I'm grateful for the guy who started this thread, and all those who responded. Sometimes you need a reminder about self care and self discipline after a temporary slide in attitude. Those winter doldrums can get you some days, but yesterday the sun was shining, the birds were singing and then I read this thread. Time to start again:)
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Hi Fox,
You are the person who gave me the courage and the push to finally join after reading your post "Where is Everyone" from September 14, 2017 [I still go back and read it now and then]. I've been working on altering negative thoughts and statements to positive ones - thanks for the reminder. Thanks for your wisdom and your unflinching sharing of what's going on with you. Take care -
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For all the healthy life styles...foxhd said:Annie,
It makes no sense. I have a friend who is overweight, lazy, almost illiterate. He actually says that watching tv is his hobby. I used to try to get him to ex. with me. He would laugh. He said it doesn't matter how much time I waste exercising. Because he would outlive me. He says everyone in his family always lives well into their 90's. Genetics. Some get good ones, some don't.
getting RCC and having led an exemplary and healthy lifestyle is a bit of a kick in the guts, but I like to think that if you are in bad shape when you get this diagnosis (and the next diagnosis - because in life there is usually something) your ability to deal with it is so much worse, if you have other health issues, mobility due to weight, blood pressure, diabetes, exisiting renal failure, COPD from smoking, these are all the common ones I see in older - have lived a poor lifestyle - people.
All the well known big risk factors weight, smoking, lack of cardiovascular fitness, they don't always make you live less long, but they usually almost definately make you live less well. Your mate might joke about TV being his hobby, thing is, if he ever wanted to go do something else (like travel to a mountain and climb it) he might find out that he isn't capable, he has trained to sit and watch TV and that is what he will be fit for. And god forbid he does get something that requires surgery, he might trip over tear a cruciate ligament on the way to the fridge, he may find his subsequent treatment and recovery are way harder and more complicated than necessary. His choice. Probably won't be laughing then. And yes there are always outliers, those that have a terrible time and shouldn't have and those that sail through and shouldn't have, but the statistics don't lie.
As you have said before, your fitness has been a big bonus to your ability to undergo continued treatment.
Thanks for all that you do on the board Fox.
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Fox, As a new member to your
Fox, As a new member to your board, finding your post fills me with hope. Thank you.
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