Second Opinion Confirms Things - It Is Back & Inoperable - Not Happy :(

Have you considered increasing your vitamin dosage, along with daily Xeloda and celecoxib ?   A good combination should avoid side effects, reduce markers, and kill cancer cells over time by various paths.  5FU doesn't work well for us until enough ingredients are added to the mix.  Also this gives us better control of things, even able to dodge shortages for a (long) while.

We find some of the markers don't recede until truly higher (but still comfortable) doses are reached.  e.g. 50 - 90 grams of IV vitamin C is much better (one marker falls rapidly) than 30 grams (same marker rising slowly).  This approach also seems to be a potential inhibition/immune factor for D3, K2, coQ10 perhaps a number of other nutrients.  NIH authored PNAS papers say IV vitamin C levels are particularly a factor in KRAS/BRAF mutant inhibition.  

Likewise, cancer surprises suggest that you weren't adequately monitored, even if they followed NCCN standards.  Standard medicine often seems to be technically obsolete or stunted medicine.  We use CA19-9, AFP, ALP (already common data) and LDH in addition to CEA, along with MCV (it's alreading your CBC), ESR, hsCRP, HgbA1C for support work.   We would have been knocked out of the war long ago if we settled for "standard".   

NewHere said:

>>>>Have you considered

>>>>Have you considered increasing your vitamin dosage, along with daily Xeloda and celecoxib ?   A good combination should avoid side effects, reduce markers, and kill cancer cells over time by various paths.  5FU doesn't work well for us until enough ingredients are added to the mix.  Also this gives us better control of things, even able to dodge shortages for a (long) while.

 

Doing that.  Dosing Vitamins, taking herbs.  Chemo will not work forever for me when I start, that is the issue

 

>>>We find some of the markers don't recede until truly higher (but still comfortable) doses are reached.  e.g. 50 - 90 grams of IV vitamin C is much better (one marker falls rapidly)

 

Taking 3,000 MG Vitamin C a day, 10,000 D. Various TCM.

 

>>> Likewise, cancer surprises suggest that you weren't adequately monitored, even if they followed NCCN standards.  Standard medicine often seems to be technically obsolete or stunted medicine.  We use CA19-9, AFP, ALP (already common data) and LDH in addition to CEA, along with MCV (it's alreading your CBC), ESR, hsCRP, HgbA1C for support work.   We would have been knocked out of the war long ago if we settled for "standard".   

 

I have been going to various places looking for things and tests.  Where to go for that?  I will.  Keep on asking for more tests and genomic testing as much as possible.  

Yes, it is difficult to find one stop answers, so  a lot of things become self responsibility, cumulative and shared info.  The adjuncts' (chemo and CAM) impact on the cancer and markers is additive  when used successfully.  The problem most people have is getting a strong enough total treatment to visibly dent their markers without damaging their bodies.  Damage is mostly on the prescription drugs and chemo sides, but in some cases, with the nonstandard stuff is possible.    Again, we've used much higher doses of several vitamins with expert advice, along with a supplemental list similar to Life Extension's list in 2010.  Higher doses in concert, this is not driven by dogma but data.

Most people don't get enough quality blood data to see small  improvements, or small fixable problems. Important data series are often not soon or long enough.  Lots of small improvements can add up to more than a "big treatment" (e.g Folfox/Folfiri)

"...tests  Where do I go for that?"

We've used either local or national phone numbers to arrange blood tests ourselves.  e.g. I've used the 800 number for Life Extension which has annual sales on blood tests in the spring, as well as a local lab.  I prefer to use one lab for consistency as much as possible.  It's easier than bending dr's fingers since they often pay more attention to insurance, Medicare, NCCN etc even if you pay cash.

I've read that chemo doesn't last forever since cancer can mutate and then the chemo becomes ineffective.  However, there is a strong chance it could take it out before it has an opportunity to mutate.  I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it.  Call me a proponent of oncologists but I believe they've got the training and so forth which I don't.  It's fine to do the other things provided the doctors agree with it but don't ignore what they're tellling you to do. Granted, being on chemo is beyond horrible in many respects but most times it works which is why they do it. 

NewHere said:

Thanks tanstaafl

Went to the site.  Right now onl site and searched 

http://www.lifeextension.com/Search#q=Blood Test cancer&sort=relevancy&f:hierarchicalcategory=[Products]

Came up with 80 of them.    Which one is it?  Will order and get it drawn. And probably be back asking you more quetions.  

 

 

I hope it's so slow growing it never gets to give you a problem! 

  Cancer is a mutation so it having the ability to change makes sense.  The odd thing is it's capable of doing it so quickly.  That's above my paygrade to ponder so I'll leave that question to molecular biologists.  

  If Chemo is good for about a year that explains why they're giving me the same stuff as during the pre-op.  Since it was for a month and a half and it worked quite well, so they said, then it stands to reason to keep using it with there being a good amount of time left on that clock.  

 It was suggested by someone to try CBD oil for nausia and lack of apetite. Looking at the above referenced article question 6 was a surprise. Based on what's wirtten it looks to have properties similar to chemo.   I can see why it would help with nausia and apetite but killing cancer itself is a new one.

• Studies in mice and rats have shown that cannabinoids may inhibit tumor growth by causing cell death, blocking cell growth, and blocking the development of blood vessels needed by tumors to grow. Laboratory and animal studies have shown that cannabinoids may be able to kill cancer cells while protecting normal cells.
• A study in mice showed that cannabinoids may protect against inflammation of the colon and may have potential in reducing the risk of colon cancer, and possibly in its treatment.
• A laboratory study of delta-9-THC in hepatocellular carcinoma (liver cancer) cells showed that it damaged or killed the cancer cells. The same study of delta-9-THC in mouse models of liver cancer showed that it had antitumor effects. Delta-9-THC has been shown to cause these effects by acting on molecules that may also be found in non-small cell lung cancer cells and breast cancer cells.

I will be getting asecond opinion from an Integrative Onc this Thursday. Had a CT scan today so this is the time for me to decide how long I can put off chemo.  I have been enjoying I.V. Vitamin C for a few months now. And ozone saunas. High dose Vitamin D. I took THC oil all through chemo & radiation pre surgery. Helped with appetite & pain management. I understand you have to take massive amount of THC for 90 days in order to possibly have it kill cancer. Rick Simpson and many others testify to the benefits. 

NewHere said:

It Is Amazing To Read

How there is so much potential for CBD can kill cancer like that.  They need to step up research for things like this where there is a chance to kill cancer with less other damage (would need to buy stock in Dortio's though )  Seems to be a different form than smoking pot.

 

You might want to start with a consult there.