Stage 2 colon cancer- should I take xeloda?

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  • danker
    danker Member Posts: 1,276 Member
    side effects

    If I were NED I would not bother taking any drug that might have side effects.  Good luck to yoy whatever you ddecide!!

  • Tunadog
    Tunadog Member Posts: 235 Member
    I'm stage 2 and taking Xeloda and Avastin..

     I had a recurrence and I'm on maintenance Chemo, 3500mg Xeloda (2 weeks) and a shot of Avastin every three weeks.

     I tolerate it well, almost no side effects except for a little fatigue.

    It's keeping my cancer from spreading. 

    Good Luck

  • Mikenh
    Mikenh Member Posts: 777 Member
    I took Xeloda and Radiation

    I took Xeloda and Radiation for six weeks. The Xeloda affected my red and white blood counts. I'd say that I lost about 75% of my stamina but was able to work and mostly function. There were some GI issues as well but it's hard to tell if those were the Xeloda or the radiation. The radiation was a lot tougher than the Xeloda. So it's a problem for some but I asked my Oncology Nurse about the percentage of people that continue working and she said that the vast majority continue to work.

    There is a rare genetic condition where it's dangerous but 5FU would have the same danger. My oncologist did a test to check for the gene on me and I assume that this is standard practice.

  • bobby66
    bobby66 Member Posts: 69
    Tunadog said:

    I'm stage 2 and taking Xeloda and Avastin..

     I had a recurrence and I'm on maintenance Chemo, 3500mg Xeloda (2 weeks) and a shot of Avastin every three weeks.

     I tolerate it well, almost no side effects except for a little fatigue.

    It's keeping my cancer from spreading. 

    Good Luck

    hi,

    hi,

     

    di you have a high deductible with your Xeloda? my oncologist prescribed me xeloda but i was not able to afford it, so i'm staying with my regular chemo.

  • Cathleen Mary
    Cathleen Mary Member Posts: 827 Member
    Stage II B....chose no chemo

    Stage II B....chose no chemo 8 years ago...still NED.

    I have had slightly elevated CEA for years...4-5.

    CM

     

  • Annabelle41415
    Annabelle41415 Member Posts: 6,742 Member
    An Old Post

    This is an old post, but my oncologist recommended Xeloda/Radiation/Surgery/Chemo.  I'm not sure of my staging but mine was rectal cancer.  Good luck to the new ones posting.  You might need to start a new threat if you need new answers.

    Kim

  • Cinnamon Jones
    Cinnamon Jones Member Posts: 21 Member
    Rachel661 said:

    Xeloda

    Hi Cinnamon. Im Stage 2 Colon / clear margins / 16/16 neg. My oncologist recomended Xeloda for 6 months. I was wondering if you decided to do the treatment and

    if so, what has you experience been as far as side effects. Thank You.

    Xeloda

    Sorry I am just responding now. Couldn't figure out how to log in.  I decided to not take the Xeloda.  I will be one year NED Dec 1st.  However if the cancer does return I will certainly consider chemo.  It just didn't seem to add that much to my changes of 5 year survival. I was told maybe 2 per cent and the cancer could still return.  The survival rate was 88-90% without.  I decided to preserve my health for future battles if needed.  I must also add that I am single and still need to work and that also played into the decision.  

  • Cinnamon Jones
    Cinnamon Jones Member Posts: 21 Member
    edited November 2017 #29
    bobby66 said:

    hi,

    hi,

     

    di you have a high deductible with your Xeloda? my oncologist prescribed me xeloda but i was not able to afford it, so i'm staying with my regular chemo.

    Hadn't thought about that.  I

    Hadn't thought about that.  I'm now on Medicare so not sure what I would have to pay.  But will certainly keep the cost in mind if I need to make that decision in the future

  • kmcgowan
    kmcgowan Member Posts: 7
    On the fence, not sure which way to go

    I had surgery for colon cancer on 10/18/2017 and my Oncologist suggests taking Xeloda for 6 months. I had stage IIB with 15 negative nodes. I am at moderate risk but the percentage of survival is so minimal, around 3%. He also said he would like to see me every 3 months for followups. I am still not sure if I should do the treatment or not.  

     

  • Trubrit
    Trubrit Member Posts: 5,804 Member
    kmcgowan said:

    On the fence, not sure which way to go

    I had surgery for colon cancer on 10/18/2017 and my Oncologist suggests taking Xeloda for 6 months. I had stage IIB with 15 negative nodes. I am at moderate risk but the percentage of survival is so minimal, around 3%. He also said he would like to see me every 3 months for followups. I am still not sure if I should do the treatment or not.  

     

    Welcome to the forum, km

    It is a very hard decision to make, and at the end of the day, its all up to you. Pretty scary stuff!

    We have folks here who have decided to go forward with treatment and those who have not. Some are here, and some have passed, and who knows if their decision made any difference. 

    Have you thought about getting a second opinion?  There seem to be no set plan for every Oncologist, and sometimes they don't even know what is best. When I had my liver ablation, my Oncologist was leaning toward adjuvant chemo, but was not sure, so he called a colleagie in antoher state, and together they discussed my case.  I think if I were you (which I'm not) I would think about a second opinion, and that may make your decision easier. 

    I wish you all the luck in the world, as you move forward with whatever deciosion you make. Don't look back, as it changes nothing.

    May I suggest you start a new thread here on the forum   https://csn.cancer.org/forum/128   That way, members can answer your personal question without running over Cinnamon's thread.

    Tru

  • Mikenh
    Mikenh Member Posts: 777 Member
    edited December 2017 #32
    Stage 2 adjuvant chemo is

    Stage 2 adjuvant chemo is still an active area of debate so it's not surprising that it's a tough decision.

  • airborne72
    airborne72 Member Posts: 303 Member
    Similar stage and similar dilemma

    Kmcgowan:

    We share a common disease stage and decision regarding adjuvant chemo treatment.  My tumor was so large that it had to be treated prior to surgery with both chemo (Xeloda in pill form and radiation).  That treatment eradicated the tumor.  The surgeon did not find any evidence of it nor were any of my lymph nodes positive.  What a testament to the efficacy of neoadjuvant treatment!

    But even with that outcome my oncologist recommended additional chemo after the surgery.  His argument was predicated upon the fact that none of my lymph nodes were biopsied prior to the neoadjuvant chemo/radiation so they could have been positive, which would have clearly warranted the adjuvant treatment.  I thought that was a good argument, but very speculative.

    I agonized over the decision.  Then I factored in two more considerations: my age/state of health and whether or not the medical/insurance industry would approve the treatment.

    All things considered, I am in the best physical, mental, emotional and financial condition that I will enjoy for the balance of my life.  It only makes sense to undertake this challenge now instead of possibly having to do so under less than desirable conditions.

    I did not receive any pushback from the medical or insurance industry therefore I concluded that this course of action is not abnormal.  That was strong and affirming evidence to me that adjuvant treatment for the lower stages of CRC also has merit.

    My decision was to undergo the adjuvant chemo, but with my restrictions.  I told my oncologist that I drew the line for quality of life during the treatment when/if I began to experience any neuropathy in my extremities.  This is not the cold sensitiviy, it's the neuropathy.  Since I was 29 (currently 66) I have suffered from two different hand ailments, Dupytrens Contractures and Reynauld's Syndrome (in both hands).  To quote PopEye the Sailor Man..."that's all I can stands, I can't stands no more!"  Consequently, I told my oncologist that I will only endure 6 cycles of infusion instead of the standard protocol of 12 cycles.  He agreed.

    So that describes my decision making process.  Each of us have our own.  But it remains your decision and your responsibility to make that decision.  I want to underscore and emphasize what Tru stated above.  "Don"t look back..."  When we look back and second guess we are squandaring the moment and wasting energy.  It serves little to no purpose.  If a person makes a tough decision, and did so after considering the best available evidence, then that is the best that could have been done.  What is the best available evidence?  My answer to that question is dependent upon how much time is available to make the decision and a realistic assessment of the information that is reasonably accessible to a patient. 

    I recall a moment in my life when I was an officer in the U.S. Army and was faced with a tough decision.  By chance the unit chaplain was in the vicinity so he and I socially engaged (talked) briefly.  He then asked me about the ongoing situation and what course of action I would recommend to the commander.  The chaplain was aware of the situation but not as knowledgeable as I was.  That really did not matter because he was trying to assist me in improving my decision making ability, not to influence my decision.  There's a big difference between the two.

    As our brief conversation ended and we both needed to do other tasks the chaplain said something to me that I have never forgotten.  It was only a few words, but they meant a lot to me.  He said, "May the Lord be with you in your decision making process." That gave me confidence, and still does, whenever I am faced with and forced to make a difficult decision.

    Jim

     

  • kmcgowan
    kmcgowan Member Posts: 7
    Trubrit said:

    Welcome to the forum, km

    It is a very hard decision to make, and at the end of the day, its all up to you. Pretty scary stuff!

    We have folks here who have decided to go forward with treatment and those who have not. Some are here, and some have passed, and who knows if their decision made any difference. 

    Have you thought about getting a second opinion?  There seem to be no set plan for every Oncologist, and sometimes they don't even know what is best. When I had my liver ablation, my Oncologist was leaning toward adjuvant chemo, but was not sure, so he called a colleagie in antoher state, and together they discussed my case.  I think if I were you (which I'm not) I would think about a second opinion, and that may make your decision easier. 

    I wish you all the luck in the world, as you move forward with whatever deciosion you make. Don't look back, as it changes nothing.

    May I suggest you start a new thread here on the forum   https://csn.cancer.org/forum/128   That way, members can answer your personal question without running over Cinnamon's thread.

    Tru

    Oh sorry, I am new to the

    Oh sorry, I am new to the forum and did not realize I how to post. Thank you, I will start a new thread. Smile

  • Worriedchild
    Worriedchild Member Posts: 56
    ellend said:

    Xeloda or not

    I was also diagnosed stage 2 and after resection, had clean margins, negative 19 of 19 lymph nodes. I also struggled with whether or not do have the adjuvant chemo. I ended up getting FOLFOX for 8 treatments. Well, not entirely true because they stopped the 5FU and Leucovorin after the 2nd treatment because my platelets were getting too low. I still had the bolus 5FU in the fanny pack for an additional 2 days though. The side effects were worse with the Oxaliplatin than the Xeloda IMHO. I'm still dealing with peripheral neuropathy in my hands and feet due to the IV chemo. I'm hoping it will get better over time.

    I took Xeloda during the radiation treatments I underwent prior to surgery to shrink the tumor. I was taking it 7x a week, 3x per day for 5 weeks. I didn't take the Xeloda the last weekend because my hands and feet were getting cracked. I probably didn't take care of them as well as I should have, though. Plus everyone's reactions are different.

    Good luck with whatever path you choose.

    Stage 2

    hello please tell me why did you opt for chemo when it was stage 2

  • Cinnamon Jones
    Cinnamon Jones Member Posts: 21 Member

    Stage 2

    hello please tell me why did you opt for chemo when it was stage 2

    I chose not to do the Xeloda.

    I chose not to do the Xeloda.  There is not enough evidence that it would make a difference.  When my oncologist said it is not a cure and could still come back. I decided against it.  If it comes back I don't feel it will be because of this decision.  I am also single and need to be able to keep working.  That also played into my decision.  

  • Worriedchild
    Worriedchild Member Posts: 56
    Hi

    hi there i wish you all the Luck 

    my dad had resection too and it was stage 2 A will you please share you CEA level before surgery and what was CT and PeT scan report i shall be grateful

  • airborne72
    airborne72 Member Posts: 303 Member
    edited January 2018 #38
    My Situation

    Worriedchild:

    I assume your post was directed towards me.  If not, my information may be beneficial anyway.

    My CEA level was so low while I still had a "yet to be treated" tumor that my oncologist ignored it.  He said that for me the CEA indicator was not accurate.

    After my LAR surgery my surgeon said that he could not find any evidence of disease in my rectum.  Four lymph nodes were tested and none were positive.  Clean margins as well.  All of this is good news.

    The surgical pathology report indicated no evidence of disease so my pathological staging was downgraded to T1N0M0.  Prior to surgery it was staged at Stage 2 simply due to the size of my tumor.

    Now for more information about me.  Last week I decided to terminate my adjuvant chemo therapy.  I completed 3 sessions of Oxy and 5Fu (FOLFOX6) and it was so physically devastating to my body that I had to stop.  That combined with the above information and I decided that I really did not need to continue with the chemo.

    Each of us must make our own INFORMED decision about OUR cancer treatment regimen.  It is not easy, but then again nothing about cancer is easy.

    Jim

    I was tested for all of those other genetic markers and the results came back negative, which is a good thing.

    My tumor was described as well differentiated, which is a good thing.

    The CT scans indicated no evidence of disease anywhere other than my rectum, which is a good thing.

  • Mikenh
    Mikenh Member Posts: 777 Member

    My Situation

    Worriedchild:

    I assume your post was directed towards me.  If not, my information may be beneficial anyway.

    My CEA level was so low while I still had a "yet to be treated" tumor that my oncologist ignored it.  He said that for me the CEA indicator was not accurate.

    After my LAR surgery my surgeon said that he could not find any evidence of disease in my rectum.  Four lymph nodes were tested and none were positive.  Clean margins as well.  All of this is good news.

    The surgical pathology report indicated no evidence of disease so my pathological staging was downgraded to T1N0M0.  Prior to surgery it was staged at Stage 2 simply due to the size of my tumor.

    Now for more information about me.  Last week I decided to terminate my adjuvant chemo therapy.  I completed 3 sessions of Oxy and 5Fu (FOLFOX6) and it was so physically devastating to my body that I had to stop.  That combined with the above information and I decided that I really did not need to continue with the chemo.

    Each of us must make our own INFORMED decision about OUR cancer treatment regimen.  It is not easy, but then again nothing about cancer is easy.

    Jim

    I was tested for all of those other genetic markers and the results came back negative, which is a good thing.

    My tumor was described as well differentiated, which is a good thing.

    The CT scans indicated no evidence of disease anywhere other than my rectum, which is a good thing.

    Sounds like you're in a good

    Sounds like you're in a good place with peace of mind now.

  • Tunadog
    Tunadog Member Posts: 235 Member
    Sounds good

    Cool Best of luck 

    May the rest of your journey be uneventful 

  • airborne72
    airborne72 Member Posts: 303 Member
    Thanks guys.  Cancer is

    Thanks guys.  Cancer is comparable to a colloquial saying..."it is not an easy row to hoe."  This has been a tough decision for me, but surprisingly I have no regrets.  In fact, every time my mind wanders back to "it" I use that moment to remind myself to LIVE in the moment - to be happy and thankful for where I am.  That thought association is responsible for my mood elevating and my outlook to be more positive.

    Right now I am concentrating on physically recovering from the chemo.  I am almost 15 pounds below my normal weight.  This ileostomy is preventing me from enjoying an inclusive diet but it is temporary and that is another thing that I have learned about CRC - it is a protracted fight, measured in months and years.

    My goal is to once again enjoy the warm sunshine while tending to my garden; to feel the tug of a fish on my line; to hold my granddaughter and share all that I know with her so she doesn't have to make the same mistakes that i have made in life; to smell fresh cut hay; to float in the warm waters in the Gulf of Mexico; to plant flowers and watch them bloom; to be a good neighbor and a good citizen; and to never forget that there is someone carrying a burden greater than mine.  I have time remaining to do all of that plus so much more.

    Jim