Willing to try

With all modern science can do today, saving so many men who would have died rapidly with PCa 20 years ago, it saddens me that you have chosen snake oil instead.

A dear friend a year ago was terminal with BCa. Docs told her she might have a year with chemo. But, shortly thereafter, ahe texted me one day and related that she had found a holistic cure online, which guaranteed a cure.  She ended chemo, and died about three weeks later...

max

You have the riight to refuse treatment; it's your life and decision, however pursuing alternative treatment as you plan to do is counterproductive..........your cancer will simply spread, and medical treatment will not be successful for you in the future.

In laymans terms, you will simply F__k youself up by substituting alternative treatment for the science of medicine. To be honest you are not the first person who pursued alternative treatment at this board....others have, and have suffered the consequences of not having medical treatment to include dying from a horrible horrible death.

Please reconsider this very, very foolish course of action that you are thinking of.... 

OP: Just to be clear, exactly what "alternative treatments" will you  starting on Thursday 1/5?

hopeful and optimistic said:

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I can only agree with Rakendra, that one should strive to have a positive loving life style without stress, and eating a heart healthy vegie type diet, and exercise. In fact Dean Ornish MD has advocated this in in a book that he wrote to reverse heart disease. He also did a study among men with prostate cancer and saw a reduction in PSAs among a limited sample of men.

I generally do not respond to posts that others make when I disagree, so as not to be confrontational, however in this case, I feel that it is necessary to respond to Rakenda's post about "Hyrogen Peroxide" and the rest of the non-scientific treatments that he is advocating, since this can cause harm, and cause a very,  very painful death, that which can happen at the final stages of prostate cancer.

Medicine is based on Medical SCIENCE, that is documented scientific studies. Doctors take an oath not to cause harm.This applies to  drugs as  well as various treatments. If a doctor prescribed any of the treatments or suppliments that Rakendra  talks about that are not based on science,  there would be concern with the possibility of  lossing ones medical license,  and rightfully so.

I know that non of us are medical doctors, myself included, but I at least know that it is best to find the best of the best, medical doctor to treat, an "artist" in his specialty, and not follow the advise to see a charleton or take unproven suppliments to treat  an advanced aggressive cancer.

Rakendra, I love you, but I believe that your recommendation is horrible.

I would suggest that most of what has been proposed here is not mutually exclusive and can have significant overlap. Many of the guys who have gone through all of the conventional treatments are also people with serious spiritual lives, of various persuasions.  And one can be "spiritual" with or without any particular religion or conventional 'faith.' The same for health-consciousness, healthy eating, etc.

But of course one cannot do an alternative 'treatment' if it precludes or works against medical advice.  A rationalist, scientific element is essential also, and that clearly recommends modern medicine. This discussion has jumped into the very real agonies of chemo, although most of the guys here have never been on chemo, and almost always, only very late in treatment, after other, less miserable treatments had been very effective for them for a long, long time.  PCa treatments should not be equated with chemo, given that it is a rare, and late, modality.   Last I read, the doctors had not yet decided what he might best do initially.

So, do not assume the very worst treatments will be required, before treatment has even begun. 

max

First thing you need to do is change your screen name.  Then go see doctors at Hopkins and MD Anderson.  Yo may not be going the route of Chemo . 

Deadmansoon said:

Still keeping appt with

Still keeping appt with urologist and oncologist, since it takes a month between appt, thought I'd be proactive. To me there is a difference between living and living on chemo. Different strokes, different folks. I respect everyones opinions.

I'm undergoing radiation for facial cancer, I responded to you because of two things. First hearbreak to read your handle, then because my husband we are sure has Prostate cancer. We are trying to decide what route to take.

Terisita said:

How are you doing

I'm undergoing radiation for facial cancer, I responded to you because of two things. First hearbreak to read your handle, then because my husband we are sure has Prostate cancer. We are trying to decide what route to take.

In order to have the most responses about your husbasds case, it is best to start a new thread. Please include why you are sure that he has Prostate Cancer, and all pertinent information about his situation. 

We will do our best to share our experiences and any information, that we " lay people " have acquired.

Best wishes for you and your husband. 

Hi,

What you might want to do is try the alternative tratments now and in the next couple of months and have the doctor monitor your psa by the treatment. If no improvement then that should tell you the treatment is not working.  Probably about the time you get all your tests & research done on conventional treatments you should have a couple of months done on your alternative treatment.  See if it works, if not you can always fall back on traditional treatments for PCa.

Just my 2c worth

Dave 3+4