Anyone Stage 4 and still working?
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SSDIRichgels1 said:Todd,
It is my understanding that you cannot work and apply for SSD at the same time. If you work, your application is disqualified. You must be out of work the full six months before the benefits kick in. It will take 6 months for benefits to start. What you have heard about Obama care is false. You can pick the plan you want when you sign up. Doctors do not check to see if you have insurance through the ACA site and they certainly do not put you down on some priority list. The plan you pick is the same plan that other people have that will pay a higher premium for. If you stopped working and applied for SSD, Then signed-up for Obama care you would qualify for maximum credits towards premiums the first year becuase of you income level. This means your premium would be around 60 dollors and your max out of pocket for the year would be $500 dollors. The second year you would pay a bit more because you would receive a full year of benefits so you income level would be higher which is how they determine you premium cost. After two years you would automatically be enrolled in Medicare. Do some research and you will see that what I am saying is true. Hope this helps some. Scott
Thanks for the info. When I applied I was on short term disability and not working and had just been diagnosed Stage IV with my recurrence after my surgery. I wasn't sure frankly if I would go back to work. If you look at the website for SSDI, it lists metastatic kidney cancer as one of the conditions for approvaly, but I assume you're correct and that as soon as I went back to work it disqualified me. Still would have been nice to have heard something from them: a letter, a call, anything.
What you say about Obamacare I would have thought is true. However, I've heard from 3-4 friends that they have it and have had trouble getting appointments. I had one friend say he was told by certain doctors that they don't take it because it doesn't pay as well as other regular policies. So I'm not sure about it. I don't know how to find out for sure. Perhaps I should ask the doctor's billing people directly. I hope it is so as you say it is.
If I want to get really good care, I have to make sure that I keep insurance that will pay these top specialists in my area. I have such a high probability of needing it, I don't feel like I can risk going without it.
Best wishes,
Todd
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I wentcheatinlil said:Thanks for your feedback
Thanks for your feedback Brenda. It looks like it is the Chemo pills that makes it unbearable for most. Lucky you got to have surgery! Just Kidding... I'm impressed with you and your strength. xoxoxo
back to work for 6 months after surgery. But when I applied for SSD, they went back to my diagnosis date, not end of work date.
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SSD online
i went to a SS office an hour before it opened and had to be 50+ people in line. I went home discouraged and decided to try applying online. It was straight forward and was contacted three weeks later that it was sent to determination department. Received a pack of documents to fill out and faxed in. Two weeks later I received a deposit for two months, so five weeks total. I was flabbergasted and relieved to have one less thing to worry about.
there was no way I was going to spend one more day in the office after the diagnosis.
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thoughtsMattInVa said:Thoughts
I am stage IV Grade IV, mets to my lungs, had my right kidney removed at the end of Aug. I started Votrient 19 days ago. They gave me a very poor prognosis due to the Grade IV nature of my tumors. My first ONC said to plan for a 1-2 year life expectancy. I believe that it will be a good bit longer than that, proof is in the boards here.
Votrients side effects have been mild so far. I do get bouts of nausea during the days and sometimes at night.
I am a bit younger at 45 than many here, but I get tired working for more than a couple of hours. I have a small mechanic shop so my job is physically demanding. I am considering SSD also although I have enough income from my property rentals to live on, but not very well.
I to have considered starting to liquidate some of my 401k, since I am single with no dependents or heirs. My understanding is 401k can be used for medical expenses without penalty. That would free up money for other things I want to do.
Its very difficult planning life around this disease. I have a good savings and don't want to burn through it, but I don't know what my future holds so I don't want to deny living either.
I appreciate the information that RCC Stage IV is a SSD fast track. Its something for me to look into.
I am also a vet and with SSD probably eligible for a military pension.
Matt
None of us really know how long we have on this beautiful earth, but some times doc gives some close estimates of what some have left. My thought is , if 1-2 years is his opinion and you are single with no heirs, WHAT are you waiting on. Get your money and live like you want too. sign uup for your disability. We have no guarantees but from waht you say I would do whatever Ihave always wanted to do while I felt like it and enjoy all of it. If you are here longer and I sure hope you are and you have enjoyed yourself with things you want , then there is always government housing, and cheaper ways to live. So see the best of both, if it has to be that way. I am praying for you and hope you have many many years on this earth. But live for today, tomorrow is not promised. My prayers daily for you.
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SSDfoxhd said:I went
back to work for 6 months after surgery. But when I applied for SSD, they went back to my diagnosis date, not end of work date.
hi foxhad,
i hope you are doing well. I was recently approved for SSD. I was wondering if it is permanent or will they come back and ask us to requalify? RCC is incurable so I am guessing not.
any ideas? How long have you been on it?
michael poggi
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SSDQt34167 said:SSD
hi foxhad,
i hope you are doing well. I was recently approved for SSD. I was wondering if it is permanent or will they come back and ask us to requalify? RCC is incurable so I am guessing not.
any ideas? How long have you been on it?
michael poggi
I was told they may check on my status at some time. That won't matter. I haven't gotten better yet. It's been 3-4 years since benefits. I'm very thankful.
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SSDfoxhd said:SSD
I was told they may check on my status at some time. That won't matter. I haven't gotten better yet. It's been 3-4 years since benefits. I'm very thankful.
Now retired disabled I've been told to get in touch with Social Security. But what do I want? What need I ask for?
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Working
I have been stage IV for a year I take the Votrient religiously and I still work. I did fill out the FMLA papers as did my ONC, the school district I work for has been patient with me but they said they will always leave termination on the board (of course they would like idiots in the media firing a cancer patient and schools hate bad publicity). Under the Votrient I have had numerous problems with bowel control, fatigue, chemo brain, and various others issues and I have thought about SSD but I have way to many bills and I would not get much from SSD. I think this will be my last year of teaching full time, I was told when I contacted SSD I could make about 1000 dollars extra a month working so I figure I will Sub teacher a couple of days a week next year until I just don't feel up to it anymore. All this being said I admit I have missed a lot of work days because the Votrient was kicking my butt, recently my ONC gave me a sort of vacation by dropping my dosage down to 400 mgs and that has helped, however he said this week I will probably go back up which means the torture begins again. I want to teach as long as I can because I love teaching and I have bills to pay but I know there will come a time that it has to end and I plan on getting some of that money from SSD that I have been paying into for so long.
Mark
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Markmrou50 said:Working
I have been stage IV for a year I take the Votrient religiously and I still work. I did fill out the FMLA papers as did my ONC, the school district I work for has been patient with me but they said they will always leave termination on the board (of course they would like idiots in the media firing a cancer patient and schools hate bad publicity). Under the Votrient I have had numerous problems with bowel control, fatigue, chemo brain, and various others issues and I have thought about SSD but I have way to many bills and I would not get much from SSD. I think this will be my last year of teaching full time, I was told when I contacted SSD I could make about 1000 dollars extra a month working so I figure I will Sub teacher a couple of days a week next year until I just don't feel up to it anymore. All this being said I admit I have missed a lot of work days because the Votrient was kicking my butt, recently my ONC gave me a sort of vacation by dropping my dosage down to 400 mgs and that has helped, however he said this week I will probably go back up which means the torture begins again. I want to teach as long as I can because I love teaching and I have bills to pay but I know there will come a time that it has to end and I plan on getting some of that money from SSD that I have been paying into for so long.
Mark
You just wrote the story of my life up to september. Then I got pneumonia and spent a week in hospital. Then I got to thinking, was I helping anyone by carrying on. I'd used up all my sick days and was working half a day. Much more of that and I would jeapordize my pension. I was finding the students harder to control because I wasnt seeing them dailly. That also made it harder to monitor their progress
In the meantime it was only a mattter of time before I shat myself in the classroom and my immune system was comromised so I was going to get sick again. Everyone I knew within the school system was incredibly supportive but the people at the level of middle management to whom I was only a number wanted me fired.
All in all retirement was the best option. I retired last week.
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God Bless you Footstomper!Footstomper said:Mark
You just wrote the story of my life up to september. Then I got pneumonia and spent a week in hospital. Then I got to thinking, was I helping anyone by carrying on. I'd used up all my sick days and was working half a day. Much more of that and I would jeapordize my pension. I was finding the students harder to control because I wasnt seeing them dailly. That also made it harder to monitor their progress
In the meantime it was only a mattter of time before I shat myself in the classroom and my immune system was comromised so I was going to get sick again. Everyone I knew within the school system was incredibly supportive but the people at the level of middle management to whom I was only a number wanted me fired.
All in all retirement was the best option. I retired last week.
IGod Bless you Footstomper!
I know it is a tough decision to make. My husband still flip flops with the idea. I see him and I can't imagine him working in his condition. THe only time he wants to work is when he stresses about finances. I hope he can make peace with it. I think the resting is needed for healing. It is a tough road this cancer.
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cheatinlilcheatinlil said:God Bless you Footstomper!
IGod Bless you Footstomper!
I know it is a tough decision to make. My husband still flip flops with the idea. I see him and I can't imagine him working in his condition. THe only time he wants to work is when he stresses about finances. I hope he can make peace with it. I think the resting is needed for healing. It is a tough road this cancer.
I actually sat down and made a list of reasons to keep working and reasons to stop. This was a very private activity I didnt share with anyone until I had finished.
Basically I was working because I wanted to.
I wasnt doing a good job.
I was in danger of losing my pension
I had run out of sick pay and the sick pay bank
The students lacked a predictable environment
You could never be sure of the quality of substitute teachers and so on.
There wasnt really a decision to make once I got to the end of it.
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Congrats I Think?Footstomper said:Mark
You just wrote the story of my life up to september. Then I got pneumonia and spent a week in hospital. Then I got to thinking, was I helping anyone by carrying on. I'd used up all my sick days and was working half a day. Much more of that and I would jeapordize my pension. I was finding the students harder to control because I wasnt seeing them dailly. That also made it harder to monitor their progress
In the meantime it was only a mattter of time before I shat myself in the classroom and my immune system was comromised so I was going to get sick again. Everyone I knew within the school system was incredibly supportive but the people at the level of middle management to whom I was only a number wanted me fired.
All in all retirement was the best option. I retired last week.
FS I am sorry you had to retire under these conditions, that sucks. But I can relate to what you are going through, with the cancer and all the pills I find my self less sympathetic at times, especially to crappy parents who treat their children poorly, I am wanting to lash out at them verbally and I keep getting closer and closer to doing it. It may be time for me to hang up my pencils soon.
Mark
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Mrou50mrou50 said:Congrats I Think?
FS I am sorry you had to retire under these conditions, that sucks. But I can relate to what you are going through, with the cancer and all the pills I find my self less sympathetic at times, especially to crappy parents who treat their children poorly, I am wanting to lash out at them verbally and I keep getting closer and closer to doing it. It may be time for me to hang up my pencils soon.
Mark
I recognize what you say and I'm sure I grew less tolerant towards the end of my tenure. I loved that job, but definately congrats are in order, retiring was the only logical choice for everyone involved
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mrou50 said:
Working
I have been stage IV for a year I take the Votrient religiously and I still work. I did fill out the FMLA papers as did my ONC, the school district I work for has been patient with me but they said they will always leave termination on the board (of course they would like idiots in the media firing a cancer patient and schools hate bad publicity). Under the Votrient I have had numerous problems with bowel control, fatigue, chemo brain, and various others issues and I have thought about SSD but I have way to many bills and I would not get much from SSD. I think this will be my last year of teaching full time, I was told when I contacted SSD I could make about 1000 dollars extra a month working so I figure I will Sub teacher a couple of days a week next year until I just don't feel up to it anymore. All this being said I admit I have missed a lot of work days because the Votrient was kicking my butt, recently my ONC gave me a sort of vacation by dropping my dosage down to 400 mgs and that has helped, however he said this week I will probably go back up which means the torture begins again. I want to teach as long as I can because I love teaching and I have bills to pay but I know there will come a time that it has to end and I plan on getting some of that money from SSD that I have been paying into for so long.
Mark
As I retired unfit to work as a teacher, I have been warned that I cannot work as a sub as that will indicate I am fit enough to be a teacher
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SSDFootstomper said:As I retired unfit to work as a teacher, I have been warned that I cannot work as a sub as that will indicate I am fit enough to be a teacher
Some further info on Social Security Disability.
It took about 3 weeks for the approval after application. They date back to my diagnosis date (Aug 26th) but say I have to wait 5 mos prior to drawing my first check.
Matt
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