Naturopathic/conventional treatment

Kudos to you for being proactive and exploring other options!  

Do an internet search on Chris Wark.  He has a web site with a section "what I did" that provides a lot of information.  He worked with a naturopath.   He also explains that he learned some alternatives to the IV vitamin C therapy -- and gives the dosages for taking C orally.   He also provides his juicing recipe which includes carrots, celery, ginger.

Ann Cameron is an author that had stage 4 colon cancer and claims to have cured it with juicing carrots. -- nothing else.  She wrote a book about it that is quite interesting -- $5 on Amazon.

You can do an internet search on Ralph Cole who also claims to have cured his cancer with carrot juice.  

Juicing is a complementatary therapy and if it doesn't interfere with the chemo -  why not?

I have done research and am following naturopathic protocols since first-line chemo didn't work so well for me.  I don't work with a naturopath since none were conveniently located for me.

After my last liver rx, I am juicing using the carrot, celery, ginger, and tumeric root (fresh from WholeFoods) recipe.  I also take supplements and I walk 3 miles a day and do resistance workouts.  No chemo.  So far so good.

I found the information on this site to be helpful also and get my supplement recommendations from them. 

http://www.lef.org/Protocols/Cancer/Alternative-Cancer-Therapies/Page-01

Memorial Sloan Kettering (#1 cancer hospital in the country this year) has a free app (About Herbs) and web site that is a handy reference.  

during treatment (stage 4, two failed chemos, five surgeries, NED for almost 4 years now).  I felt most of it fell into the "can't hurt, might help" category.

That said, I would never have expected a cure from any alternative approach, simply because I need evidence before I expect something to happen (and by evidence, I mean the kind that is accepted by the scientific community).  

I haven't yet heard of anyone who can prove a cure through alt means without having had surgery first (see: Chris Wark), and surgery is in fact the one known way to cure us stage 4ers.

But overall I don't think it's problematic adding in complementary stuff, so long as it isn't costing a fortune.

Good luck~AA

NewHere said:

Quick Question

 I am juicing using the carrot, celery, ginger, and tumeric root (fresh from WholeFoods) recipe.

I took a look and did not see the recipe (though I may have missed it) was wondering where it was.  My wife is making a shake (juice) now and I enjoy them, plus like all the ingredients you listed, so figured may give it a whirl.

The recipe is one that I got from Chris Wark's site and I added the fresh tumeric root to it which I get from Whole Foods.  

Ann Cameron (author of Curing Cancer with Carrots) and stage 4 CrC -- only juiced carrots - five pounds daily.  

Ralph Cole also only juiced carrots - also five pounds daily.  He found that 3 pounds wasn't enough -- so increased it to 5 and tumors went away.  His cancer was head and neck, not colon.

Celery has a component, apinginen, that is anti-tumor, and curcumin (tumeric) is as well.    

Five pounds of carrots = 5 cups of juice roughly.   Every morning I juice five lbs carrots (unpeeled and scrubbed) , one lb celery, chunk of fresh ginger (peeled), 2-3 pieces peeled tumeric root.  Put it into air-tight jars and drink throughout the day.  Sometimes I add a quarter of a beet.    Don't peel the carrots as much of the nutrients are in the peel.

Chris Wark's site has a search so you can search for carrots and get several results including the stories about Ann Cameron and Rallph Cole.   

here is the link to Chris' post on carrot juice that includes his recipe.  

http://www.chrisbeatcancer.com/i-juiced-to-beat-cancer-and-turned-orange/

Here is the link to the naturopath post.

http://www.chrisbeatcancer.com/my-anti-cancer-supplement-protocol-recommended-by-nutritionist-john-smothers/

I can’t testify regarding anything other than Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM), since that’s all I’ve used to resolve everything from Atrial Fibrillation, DVT, Kidney stones, bacteremia….  The list is near endless.

TCM is nearly 4 thousand years old. That’s a lot of time to perfect the experimentation that’s taken place all those years! Any comments that refer to “no documentation” or “proof”, are foolish meandering. If the documentation is in Chinese or Asian charactures, the documentation is there. Because a western/English speaking individual can not understand the eastern language is not reason to disregard the four thousand years of accumulated knowledge.

I used Chinese herbs to rid myself of cancer cells. My physicians claim that I am just one helluva lucky individual. They say that my absence of AF is just due to luck. My DVT disappeared after herbal treatments, and they say again, I am just a lucky guy. My kidney stones dissolved, and I’m a lucky guy….

Yet.. for some unknown reason, I don’t manage to win the Florida Lottery….. Not even a free ticket.

Each of us has to listen to what our souls tell us. Only -you- know what’s best for -you-. Each of us has to learn to trust our survival instincts. Our body’s survival instincts should take precedence over what any other person, physician or otherwise, can dictate.

Trust thyself.

Be well,

John

Buddy2013 said:

Juicing

 

The recipe is one that I got from Chris Wark's site and I added the fresh tumeric root to it which I get from Whole Foods.  

Ann Cameron (author of Curing Cancer with Carrots) and stage 4 CrC -- only juiced carrots - five pounds daily.  

Ralph Cole also only juiced carrots - also five pounds daily.  He found that 3 pounds wasn't enough -- so increased it to 5 and tumors went away.  His cancer was head and neck, not colon.

Celery has a component, apinginen, that is anti-tumor, and curcumin (tumeric) is as well.    

Five pounds of carrots = 5 cups of juice roughly.   Every morning I juice five lbs carrots (unpeeled and scrubbed) , one lb celery, chunk of fresh ginger (peeled), 2-3 pieces peeled tumeric root.  Put it into air-tight jars and drink throughout the day.  Sometimes I add a quarter of a beet.    Don't peel the carrots as much of the nutrients are in the peel.

 

Chris Wark's site has a search so you can search for carrots and get several results including the stories about Ann Cameron and Rallph Cole.   

 

here is the link to Chris' post on carrot juice that includes his recipe.  

http://www.chrisbeatcancer.com/i-juiced-to-beat-cancer-and-turned-orange/

Here is the link to the naturopath post.

http://www.chrisbeatcancer.com/my-anti-cancer-supplement-protocol-recommended-by-nutritionist-john-smothers/

According to surgeons, had he had surgery and removed his tumor he would still be on this earth.  Instead he decided to juice carrots, turned a bit orange and needlessly passed away. Be wary of someone that had surgery and then claims doing one thing (such as juicing) cured them of their cancer, (when actually it was the tumor removal) otherwise we would all be doing it if it was true.

in many lucky people, the surgery can take care of their cancer and they become NED for a very, very long time, if not forever in their lifetime.  In others, they need surgery and a bit of mop up chemo and they are done, for others, it's surgeries, radiation, chemos and then they are done, for others like myself, it's a never ending story of surgeries and chemo.

I wish you all the best, just beware of the internet and those that claim the carrot juice or whatever their claim to that "miracle" juice, piss, or whatever is what saved them.

Ann I believe has the right idea, if it can't hurt you, then go for it, if it can, walk away quickly.

Winter Marie

Buddy2013 said:

In her book, she says the CT

In her book, she says the CT showed two tumors between her lungs AND two spots on her lungs.  As a result, her oncologist bumped her to stage 4.  Yes, you are correct that she did not make her medical records public.   

 

I find it interesting that people will accept an IV drip of chemo drugs designed to kill every dividing cell in the body, but the idea of carrot juice  causing the body's own immune system to destroy a tumor -- now that's just crazy talk!

 

 

But 5 lbs of Carrots every day is nothing short of excessive in my opinion. 

I would drink Carrots juiced, in a heart beat; but definitely not 5 lbs a day. 

Thats just me and my own feelings though. Each to his own.

Sue - Trubrit

Ah, one of our old post.

So many who posted here, didn't live to tell the tale.

Tru