Cancer: The emperor of Maladies
Anyone else watching this? Hopeful and inspiring on the scientific effort and progress on dealing with this curse.
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I'm waiting
Stomper,
I have been anticipating it greatly, but I'll watch it when it becomes available on streaming so I can watch it at my own pace. It looks like there's a lot of information in that one. Looks very good.
- Jay
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Yes
we watched part one last night and will catch part 2 in the next hour (PDT). What stood out for me was that all of the treatments took place in the last 100 years.
it makes cure for cancer much more realistic; before watching it, the treatments seemed stalled.
Sarah
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Hard to watchAPny said:Tivo-ing it and will watch it
Tivo-ing it and will watch it once we have all three parts.
i watched the first one. I found it VERY interesting about the history of cancer treatment, but found it VERY hard to watch. I did not realize that all of the early development of chemo was done by experimenting on children, injecting them with anything and everything. I wish I had split up my viewing instead of watching all at once.
i recorded the second one and will watch it today. I hope it isn't so depressing.
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Hard to watchNewDay said:Hard to watch
i watched the first one. I found it VERY interesting about the history of cancer treatment, but found it VERY hard to watch. I did not realize that all of the early development of chemo was done by experimenting on children, injecting them with anything and everything. I wish I had split up my viewing instead of watching all at once.
i recorded the second one and will watch it today. I hope it isn't so depressing.
Yes it is but I find it also incredibly hopeful. Maybe because my wife workd in the field (AIDS related Cancers) we're innured to the personal tragedy of the individual stories. I found it profoundly moving and as I said hopeful.
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Inspiring indeedFootstomper said:Hard to watch
Yes it is but I find it also incredibly hopeful. Maybe because my wife workd in the field (AIDS related Cancers) we're innured to the personal tragedy of the individual stories. I found it profoundly moving and as I said hopeful.
last night's show was particularly inspiring to me with Nurse Wilson's story; I had breast cancer 23 years ago and although I am fine, I have lost many friends who had a more aggressive breast cancer.
last night was riveting and my opinion (for what it's worth) is that after my husband getting his diagnosis in 2013, not much upsets me about cancer.
Sarah
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Glad someone else is watching, tooFootstomper said:Hard to watch
Yes it is but I find it also incredibly hopeful. Maybe because my wife workd in the field (AIDS related Cancers) we're innured to the personal tragedy of the individual stories. I found it profoundly moving and as I said hopeful.
Hard, cruel, unrelenting and in your face. I usually end up heading to bed after an hour and a half. My husband has watched the first two, and it has brought up some good discussion.
For the kidney cancer people, as Dickens wrote, ..."the best of times and the worst of times." The cancer is being diagnosed at an earlier date, but usually by accident. Surgical technique has advanced, with more organ sparing and lap surgeries. Drugs have gone beyond IL2 and Sutent, the only things available in 2006.
It was truly difficult to listen to a supervising physician at OHSU and hear him say there was no drug we can give you. What was in trial that year, had to have an active site they could monitor. And since I had just had a kidney, set of nodes, half a liver and my gall bladder removed, I wasn't willing to grow a cancer just for him. And luckily, the two recurrences in the next two years could be surgically removed-lymphadenectomies.
Some of the information and stories told were part of my upbringing. I was 9...and shhhh, grandma had cancer. For shame...her own daughter didn't come to visit or to the funeral; but low and behold, my aunt also had cancer with mets to the brain and she didn't want to see what she might go thru the following year.
I went off to university with a minor in health ed. Spring term 1964, Dr. Anderson's Community Health Problems class...the lecture for the day was set aside to discuss the morning's breaking news that cigarette smoking was definitely linked to lung cancer. Part of the start of the health education movement to prevent known disease.
There have been trials and errors. Wrong theories, and sometimes flawed reasoning. What is important to all of us is that researchers, Doctors and fund raisers have been trying. It's gotten us to where we are today. And for that, I say Thank You to everyone who has gone before me.
And to Cancer-don't call me, again, ever-never.
To all of us, happy healing, enjoy April Fools Day, and have another birthday.
Love, Donna
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"Nurse Wilson"Srashedb said:Inspiring indeed
last night's show was particularly inspiring to me with Nurse Wilson's story; I had breast cancer 23 years ago and although I am fine, I have lost many friends who had a more aggressive breast cancer.
last night was riveting and my opinion (for what it's worth) is that after my husband getting his diagnosis in 2013, not much upsets me about cancer.
Sarah
Lori Wilson is actually Lori Wilson, MD, a cancer surgeon at Howard University.
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Episode #2 excitingdonna_lee said:Glad someone else is watching, too
Hard, cruel, unrelenting and in your face. I usually end up heading to bed after an hour and a half. My husband has watched the first two, and it has brought up some good discussion.
For the kidney cancer people, as Dickens wrote, ..."the best of times and the worst of times." The cancer is being diagnosed at an earlier date, but usually by accident. Surgical technique has advanced, with more organ sparing and lap surgeries. Drugs have gone beyond IL2 and Sutent, the only things available in 2006.
It was truly difficult to listen to a supervising physician at OHSU and hear him say there was no drug we can give you. What was in trial that year, had to have an active site they could monitor. And since I had just had a kidney, set of nodes, half a liver and my gall bladder removed, I wasn't willing to grow a cancer just for him. And luckily, the two recurrences in the next two years could be surgically removed-lymphadenectomies.
Some of the information and stories told were part of my upbringing. I was 9...and shhhh, grandma had cancer. For shame...her own daughter didn't come to visit or to the funeral; but low and behold, my aunt also had cancer with mets to the brain and she didn't want to see what she might go thru the following year.
I went off to university with a minor in health ed. Spring term 1964, Dr. Anderson's Community Health Problems class...the lecture for the day was set aside to discuss the morning's breaking news that cigarette smoking was definitely linked to lung cancer. Part of the start of the health education movement to prevent known disease.
There have been trials and errors. Wrong theories, and sometimes flawed reasoning. What is important to all of us is that researchers, Doctors and fund raisers have been trying. It's gotten us to where we are today. And for that, I say Thank You to everyone who has gone before me.
And to Cancer-don't call me, again, ever-never.
To all of us, happy healing, enjoy April Fools Day, and have another birthday.
Love, Donna
i had written that episode #1 was depressing, but I just watched episode #2 and it was exciting. I can't wait to see tonight's.
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In the six hour documentaryNewDay said:Episode #2 exciting
i had written that episode #1 was depressing, but I just watched episode #2 and it was exciting. I can't wait to see tonight's.
In the six hour documentary they don't get to immunotherapy until 5 1/2 hours in. The only mention of kidney cancer is in that segment where they say that immunotherapy works best with melanoma and rcc. They highlight ipi but no mention of PD-1 drugs. Still I learned a lot, but also learned that every time it seems a breakthrough is made, there's a disappointment that follows
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Agreethaxter said:In the six hour documentary
In the six hour documentary they don't get to immunotherapy until 5 1/2 hours in. The only mention of kidney cancer is in that segment where they say that immunotherapy works best with melanoma and rcc. They highlight ipi but no mention of PD-1 drugs. Still I learned a lot, but also learned that every time it seems a breakthrough is made, there's a disappointment that follows
Thax,
I agree so far it's kind of a bummer... I've been watching on the PBS app on my Apple TV, and only halfway through the 2nd episode. It does seem to have many of those moments where there is a "breakthrough," only to have the cancer come back. I still believe the focus needs to be more on early detection of cancer rather than fighting it after the horses are gone. I know that's not appropriate in all cancers, but when you're battling different characteristics in every patient, it's hard to have one "Magic Bullet" that will work for all cancers.
I am sick of being called "lucky." There needs to be a focus on TESTING so that early detecting gives the patient a better chance of long-term survival. Luck shouldn't have anything to do with it!
- Jay
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Luckyjason.2835 said:Agree
Thax,
I agree so far it's kind of a bummer... I've been watching on the PBS app on my Apple TV, and only halfway through the 2nd episode. It does seem to have many of those moments where there is a "breakthrough," only to have the cancer come back. I still believe the focus needs to be more on early detection of cancer rather than fighting it after the horses are gone. I know that's not appropriate in all cancers, but when you're battling different characteristics in every patient, it's hard to have one "Magic Bullet" that will work for all cancers.
I am sick of being called "lucky." There needs to be a focus on TESTING so that early detecting gives the patient a better chance of long-term survival. Luck shouldn't have anything to do with it!
- Jay
George Orwell was always told he was lucky, when he survived being shot in the throat. He said "lucky' would have been not being shot in the throat.
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