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  • mls351w
    mls351w Member Posts: 90

    Btw, you did not have MEC you had SCC very
    different cancers, very different treatments. Maybe she was referring to SCC as east tp treat. MEC is not so easy.

    success rate
    Kingcole, I definitely was referring to SSC because that is what Dana(the person who started this thread, remember)has been diagnosed with. I am so sorry if I offended you and I can only imagine what you are going through. I don't know why you thought I was referring to MEC. I guess these threads start with one topic or question and wind-up on others.
    I am sorry if I offended anyone else, please forgive me. My onc never made me to believe this was going to be a "cakewalk". In fact, she told me she would be putting me through hell, and she did. I did not intend for any one to think any treatment is easy.
    Maybe I should clarify. She said scc bot stage IV is one of the easiest cancers treatments to administer and has a very high success rate. She never said the treatment was easy for the patient, no treatment is. Gosh, I was just trying to re-assure Dana.
    King, I apologize. Can we still be friends and team-mates?

    Peace, Mark S.
  • yensid683
    yensid683 Member Posts: 349
    New as well
    Good morning everyone
    Like Dana I too have been recently diagnosed with SCC base of the tongue with multiple left cervical lymph nodes involved.
    I had a sore throat, or so I thought, visits to my primary had me referred to an otolaryngologist (Ear Nose and throat)who did a thorough exam and then pushed a laryngoscope through my nose and visualized what he said was likely a malignant tumor. He sent me for a neck CT with contrast and then scheduled a biopsy. I had hoped he was going to do a needle biopsy but instead had me under general anesthesia and did a punch biopsy. I woke up thinking that my tonsils had grown back and been removed again. The biopsy came back positive for scc and HPV, so I was referred to a medical oncologist who after measuring the nodes put me at stage IVa! Talk about scared!
    Treatment will start in the next day of so with induction chemo (port placed last Friday) and I'm wonder what it feels like to get chemo? I read the side effects but what does it feel like as it enters your veins? I've had IV's before and it is always a bit chilling at first, but it soon fades. What does the chemo medication feel like?

    Sorry to run on and rant, but I'm like Dana, unsure, frightened and wanting to learn more about what I have and what the treatments will be like. Right now it will be 3 cycles of induction followed by 7 weeks or combined chemo and radiation....

    An advanced thank you to all that are here, I get good healing vibes from reading about others in my circumstances

    Peter
  • mls351w
    mls351w Member Posts: 90
    yensid683 said:

    New as well
    Good morning everyone
    Like Dana I too have been recently diagnosed with SCC base of the tongue with multiple left cervical lymph nodes involved.
    I had a sore throat, or so I thought, visits to my primary had me referred to an otolaryngologist (Ear Nose and throat)who did a thorough exam and then pushed a laryngoscope through my nose and visualized what he said was likely a malignant tumor. He sent me for a neck CT with contrast and then scheduled a biopsy. I had hoped he was going to do a needle biopsy but instead had me under general anesthesia and did a punch biopsy. I woke up thinking that my tonsils had grown back and been removed again. The biopsy came back positive for scc and HPV, so I was referred to a medical oncologist who after measuring the nodes put me at stage IVa! Talk about scared!
    Treatment will start in the next day of so with induction chemo (port placed last Friday) and I'm wonder what it feels like to get chemo? I read the side effects but what does it feel like as it enters your veins? I've had IV's before and it is always a bit chilling at first, but it soon fades. What does the chemo medication feel like?

    Sorry to run on and rant, but I'm like Dana, unsure, frightened and wanting to learn more about what I have and what the treatments will be like. Right now it will be 3 cycles of induction followed by 7 weeks or combined chemo and radiation....

    An advanced thank you to all that are here, I get good healing vibes from reading about others in my circumstances

    Peter

    veins/chemo
    Peter, I was diagnosed with same condition, ssc bot 5 years ago.
    Personally, I cannot remember any sensation what-so-ever when the chemo was applied. No heat, no cold, no burning, nothing. I have never known of any one having sensations with the actual injection, but, as you will learn on this site, each person reacts differently. Only issue I ever had was the port clogging a couple of times.
    The side effects of the chemo being pumped into your body is a whole different story.
    Good luck to you and best wishes.
  • jim and i
    jim and i Member Posts: 1,788 Member
    Welcome to the group, sorry
    Welcome to the group, sorry you have a need. My husband had stage four base of tongue with two lymph nodes diagnosed in May 2011. This board was a God send to me during that time. I spent hours on it in the begining and asked lots of questions. One thing you will hear a lot is, "Everyone is different" and that is true. I went to this board every morning before taking Jim to Rads and every evening before bed. I would not have gotten through the treatment without these people and still lean on them for support and prayers.

    Blessings
    Debbie
  • stayingpositive
    stayingpositive Member Posts: 89
    Say no to google, say yes to csn
    Hey Dana,
    I'm new also, done with surgery, soon done with radiation, next chemo. Take'm as they come no matter what sequence. Do as the docs say and visit here everyday (well the docs might not actually tell you to come here....but do as they say anyway), I do and man (err no offense) does it take the edge off. These folks here dont pull no punches about how they felt or what was done, which is what I like about them, so yo know what to expect or maybe what not to expect. Everyone's reaction to each stage is different but you can easily be prepared for what comes next. I've put CSN head and neck on the top of my fav's list and visit it twice a day, some times three times a day if I play hookie from work (um...hope the boss don't read this site).

    Hope you stay positive

    Bill
  • kingcole42005
    kingcole42005 Member Posts: 178
    mls351w said:

    success rate
    Kingcole, I definitely was referring to SSC because that is what Dana(the person who started this thread, remember)has been diagnosed with. I am so sorry if I offended you and I can only imagine what you are going through. I don't know why you thought I was referring to MEC. I guess these threads start with one topic or question and wind-up on others.
    I am sorry if I offended anyone else, please forgive me. My onc never made me to believe this was going to be a "cakewalk". In fact, she told me she would be putting me through hell, and she did. I did not intend for any one to think any treatment is easy.
    Maybe I should clarify. She said scc bot stage IV is one of the easiest cancers treatments to administer and has a very high success rate. She never said the treatment was easy for the patient, no treatment is. Gosh, I was just trying to re-assure Dana.
    King, I apologize. Can we still be friends and team-mates?

    Peace, Mark S.

    Sorry Mark my bad.
    I was getting the threads confused. I thought I was responding to another thread, what a dope. I feel very sheepish right now. I guess I'm a little sensitive right now. I apologize with my whole heart!
  • mls351w
    mls351w Member Posts: 90

    Sorry Mark my bad.
    I was getting the threads confused. I thought I was responding to another thread, what a dope. I feel very sheepish right now. I guess I'm a little sensitive right now. I apologize with my whole heart!

    absolutely no apology needed
    King. I am so relieved to clear this up. I was afraid I had made an offensive remark and I was realy worried about it. Your response lifted a big weight off my shoulders.
    I wish only the best for you and yours. Now I can sleep tonight. Thank you.

    Mark S.
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    mls351w said:

    success rates
    John, I will stand by my comments. The local ear/nose/throat doc which performed the biopsy on my tongue said I had a 50% chance of living five years. I lived with that comment for four weeks until my first visit with my rad onc. When I related his comment to her, she got reeeealy peeed-off. That's when she made the comment about the ease of treatment and success rate.
    Ease of treatment does not mean ease of trauma on the patient, but ease of ability to fight this crap. I know this is a serious procedure. There are so many things to deal with dealing with head and neck issues. Taste, saliva glands, speech, swallowing,teeth, jaws, and on and on. I went through hell with the neck burns and sore throat. As I have said before I am completely recovered with no issues what-so-ever, and I credit her with the results. Now maybe she said this to ease my concerns, but I don't believe she would lie to me. She visited with me every day of radiation. She is one of the most important persons in my life and I told her so. She gave me her cell number and told me to call her with any question or concerns 24-7. I would have her baby...lol.
    It seems like I am the most fortunate person on this board due to my successful treatment and recovery and the close relationship I had with my caregivers. It seems to me that no one else on this board had any relationship with their caregivers since I never hear anyone speak of them.
    You have a good day and thanks so much for your many heartfelt comments to all!

    Mark S.

    History ~ Mark
    It's cool, you haven't notice the comments of the many great MD's we have all spoke of being relatively new on the board. My ENT and Chemo MD are both awesome, as are the many nurses at my chemo center... I still stop in and say Heloo to all of them when I'm there for routine scopes an scans.

    As for you thinking that you are the most fortunate on the board due to a successful treatment and recovery. I believe there are many on here that have had it equally as fortunate.

    My self being one..., I didn't have a PEG (not prescribed), I never got sick, other than a fever once from the Amifostine. I never had problems with phlegm, sores, burns, etc... I have regaied all of my taste and nearly all saliva other than a little at night.

    Equally there are many on here that are 10 - 15 years plus out post treatment...now that's a success story.

    Anyways, you are not alone...a lot here are equally as blessed.

    Best,
    John
  • mls351w
    mls351w Member Posts: 90
    Skiffin16 said:

    History ~ Mark
    It's cool, you haven't notice the comments of the many great MD's we have all spoke of being relatively new on the board. My ENT and Chemo MD are both awesome, as are the many nurses at my chemo center... I still stop in and say Heloo to all of them when I'm there for routine scopes an scans.

    As for you thinking that you are the most fortunate on the board due to a successful treatment and recovery. I believe there are many on here that have had it equally as fortunate.

    My self being one..., I didn't have a PEG (not prescribed), I never got sick, other than a fever once from the Amifostine. I never had problems with phlegm, sores, burns, etc... I have regaied all of my taste and nearly all saliva other than a little at night.

    Equally there are many on here that are 10 - 15 years plus out post treatment...now that's a success story.

    Anyways, you are not alone...a lot here are equally as blessed.

    Best,
    John

    success stories
    John, first of all thanks for the link to the map. It is really nice.
    Second, thanks for the re-assurance that I am not in the minority as far as successes.
    I was feeling a little guilty I guess. I only had 2nd degree neck burns, severe sore throat, one trip to the emergency room, and basically the overall feeling of having the Hong Kong, Asian, and Swine flu all at the same time. I'm sure we all felt that way.
    My recovery was almost immediately and totally successful. Only have a little dry mouth in winter at night(electric furnace).
    I mainly want people on this site to know that complete recovery is possible if the have had the same diagnosis I had.
    I really enjoy your sense of humor and I'm glad you accepted me as one of your friends.

    Mark S.
  • braziliangirl82
    braziliangirl82 Member Posts: 42
    Hi Dana
    Hello Dana... Seem like a broken record. Young, tongue cancer, misdiagnosed... Well, here i am, i'll try to comfort you. I'm alive! My surgery was on december and i must admit that i almosr freak out with a nose tube fr a week! Hated it so much... I had 2 surgeries: a tongue surgery called partial glossectomy, but i dint need a transplant. I lost 2x3 cm of my tongue, had primmary closure. One week later my post surgery report came and guess what? I needed another surgery, profilatic one to know if i had lymphonodes involved. I had 57 of them removed at the right side and all came back negative, what makes me stage 1.

    You seem young like me, im only 30 now, 29 at diagnosis. I really want to help you through you journey and hope you'll be well. Feel free to ask me anything. ;)
  • Matt29
    Matt29 Member Posts: 62
    we have things in common
    Hi Dana my name is Matt i to was diagnosed on April 2 with Squamous cell carcinoma stage 3 i have it on my R tonsil and my R lymph node i have not started treatment either i'm really amazed your close to my age 29 and we both have the same cancer they told me this was a smokers cancer but i have never smoked before so not sure how this relates but i'm very sorry to hear your having to deal with this as well i have not started treatments either i'm still looking at my options if you hear of anything that might help please let me know and i'll do the same i hope to talk to you soon.Thank You
  • longtermsurvivor
    longtermsurvivor Member Posts: 1,842 Member
    Matt29 said:

    we have things in common
    Hi Dana my name is Matt i to was diagnosed on April 2 with Squamous cell carcinoma stage 3 i have it on my R tonsil and my R lymph node i have not started treatment either i'm really amazed your close to my age 29 and we both have the same cancer they told me this was a smokers cancer but i have never smoked before so not sure how this relates but i'm very sorry to hear your having to deal with this as well i have not started treatments either i'm still looking at my options if you hear of anything that might help please let me know and i'll do the same i hope to talk to you soon.Thank You

    Matt, this is a smoker's cancer
    about like a heart attack is a smoker's disease. There are obviously many factors which figure into the genesis of either. Don't worry about the stereotypes, which include a whole bunch of things, like these interminable discussions of HPV, staging and survival percentages. Just wrap your head around the treatment plan, keep the faith and get yourself through treatment. A positive attitude is worth more percentage points than any discussion of risk and prognostic factors.


    Here's to health.

    Pat
  • nwasen
    nwasen Member Posts: 235 Member
    yensid683 said:

    New as well
    Good morning everyone
    Like Dana I too have been recently diagnosed with SCC base of the tongue with multiple left cervical lymph nodes involved.
    I had a sore throat, or so I thought, visits to my primary had me referred to an otolaryngologist (Ear Nose and throat)who did a thorough exam and then pushed a laryngoscope through my nose and visualized what he said was likely a malignant tumor. He sent me for a neck CT with contrast and then scheduled a biopsy. I had hoped he was going to do a needle biopsy but instead had me under general anesthesia and did a punch biopsy. I woke up thinking that my tonsils had grown back and been removed again. The biopsy came back positive for scc and HPV, so I was referred to a medical oncologist who after measuring the nodes put me at stage IVa! Talk about scared!
    Treatment will start in the next day of so with induction chemo (port placed last Friday) and I'm wonder what it feels like to get chemo? I read the side effects but what does it feel like as it enters your veins? I've had IV's before and it is always a bit chilling at first, but it soon fades. What does the chemo medication feel like?

    Sorry to run on and rant, but I'm like Dana, unsure, frightened and wanting to learn more about what I have and what the treatments will be like. Right now it will be 3 cycles of induction followed by 7 weeks or combined chemo and radiation....

    An advanced thank you to all that are here, I get good healing vibes from reading about others in my circumstances

    Peter

    Peter...new
    Peter
    Like you I had base of tongue cancer with three lymph nodes involved. Stage 4 and it was one nasty **** mass on my tongue. My ENT didn't give me any hope at the time (he never ever expressed that to me until 1 year out from treatment, for which I am glad!)
    I turned down the surgery and had 7 chemos and 25 radiations. I am a small woman who became smaller with the side effects but all in all it wasn't bad. I never had any chemo issues. Never felt it going in. My only issue was I have small veins to begin with and they got smaller with the chemo and radiation. I learned who was good with the stick and who wasn't and I would always ask for the two were had it down as a fine art. (I did not have a port).
    Fear of the unknown is normal. I learned to ask alot of questions from the docs and nurses and yes, stay off google. I didn't know about this board or I would have camped out here!
    I am 16 months out and doing well. Smoking was the cause of my cancer and it was also found to have HPV in it which raised my survival chances to 80%. Smoking alone stats sort of suck.
    My doc told me yesterday they are on the trail that some with HPV are perhaps carriers and never end up getting the cancer. Alot to be learned.
    Anyway, stay strong, ask your family and friends for help and get well. That should be your focus for now...Don't dwell on anything negative, meditate, listen to music, watch comedies, anything you enjoy to help you get on with this journey.
    I am a big wimp and I have to say I even amazed myself that I stayed so strong. But it is your life...no 2nd chances.
    Will be thinking of you and sending good vibrations your way....
    Peace
    Nancy
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    Matt29 said:

    we have things in common
    Hi Dana my name is Matt i to was diagnosed on April 2 with Squamous cell carcinoma stage 3 i have it on my R tonsil and my R lymph node i have not started treatment either i'm really amazed your close to my age 29 and we both have the same cancer they told me this was a smokers cancer but i have never smoked before so not sure how this relates but i'm very sorry to hear your having to deal with this as well i have not started treatments either i'm still looking at my options if you hear of anything that might help please let me know and i'll do the same i hope to talk to you soon.Thank You

    Matt, Matt, Matt...
    Obviously if they told you it was a smokers cancer, knowing you didn't...well they are just not informed apparently.

    HPV is the new big "sinners cancer"..., LOL and you don't even have to smoke to qualify.

    Anyways, like Pat mentioned basically, cancer is cancer no matter how you cut it.

    The main thing is keep a positive attitude, surround yourself woth the positive (people in your life). Concentrate on treatment and above all, once treatment starts ...stay hydrated.

    You have a lot going for you longevity and recovery wise being younger...(I presume).

    BTW, I am 58 (55 when Dx), STGIII right tonsil and right lymphnode. Tonsils came out, sixteen weeks of combinations of chemo and rads.... Oh and that was three plus years ago. All scans since have been clean and clear, all taste has returned, nearly all saliva, and all blllodwork is back within normal ranges...not on any meds other than occasionally for acid reflux.

    You can do this also, many have, are and will....

    Thoughts & Prayers,
    John