fentanyl patch, only, for pain?

Kent Cass
Kent Cass Member Posts: 1,898 Member
I did not get such a patch, but know someone with C who does have one, and is also taking additional (unknown, as yet) med(s) for their pain. Is it anyone's experience to take other pain meds while having the patch? And, if so, what other med(s) were being taken at the same time? Again, I did not use said patch, so I plead ignorance in this matter.

Thanks, going in, for any info you can provide.

kcass

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  • sweetblood22
    sweetblood22 Member Posts: 3,228
    Fentanyl
    They prescribed me fentanyl 75mcgs, but I was still in bad pain, they also gave me liquid roxicet for breakthrough pain, but I couldn't take it, because it was too much for me. They didn't want to give me anymore, for fear of overdosing me. So, I was still in pain. But yes, I know others that had both. One guy going through rads at the same time I did was taking the fentanyl, Roxy, and atavan I think, to get through the mask.
  • soccerfreaks
    soccerfreaks Member Posts: 2,788 Member
    Kent,
    I had so many drugs when I first came home from head/neck cancer surgery that I needed a wicker basket to hold them all, and I am sure that the fentanyl patch was not alone for pain. I will check with my local authority and get back to you on what else I was taking, but I am pretty sure one of the oxy's ws involved.

    Take care,

    Joe
  • Mikemetz
    Mikemetz Member Posts: 465 Member

    Fentanyl
    They prescribed me fentanyl 75mcgs, but I was still in bad pain, they also gave me liquid roxicet for breakthrough pain, but I couldn't take it, because it was too much for me. They didn't want to give me anymore, for fear of overdosing me. So, I was still in pain. But yes, I know others that had both. One guy going through rads at the same time I did was taking the fentanyl, Roxy, and atavan I think, to get through the mask.

    Fentanyl
    I had all of those--fentanyl, roxicet, and atavin. That combination worked well for me and my pain level was tolerable throughout the radiation and chemo treatments. Fortunately, I was able to tolerate that combination of drugs, and was able to wean myself off them after the treatments ended.
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    Mikemetz said:

    Fentanyl
    I had all of those--fentanyl, roxicet, and atavin. That combination worked well for me and my pain level was tolerable throughout the radiation and chemo treatments. Fortunately, I was able to tolerate that combination of drugs, and was able to wean myself off them after the treatments ended.

    Hi Mikemetz

    Just like to welcome you here to CSN and thanks for the information.

    Hondo
  • luv4lacrosse
    luv4lacrosse Member Posts: 1,410 Member
    YES I DID
    At my worst period of pain, I was on 150 Mics. of Fentanyl via a patch and also taking 20 mgs. of pure Oxycodon orally.

    Thought for sure over the 4-5 months of doing this I was going to be a drug addict. I was never so glad to get out from under that "fog."

    Mike
  • akotke
    akotke Member Posts: 37
    I was on the patch and
    I was on the patch and oxycodone during the worst of treatment. Quite a combo as now i cant remember much of that time. I do remember the doc saying to use the oxy only for breakthrough pain but when your in that much pain who can tell the difference?
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member

    YES I DID
    At my worst period of pain, I was on 150 Mics. of Fentanyl via a patch and also taking 20 mgs. of pure Oxycodon orally.

    Thought for sure over the 4-5 months of doing this I was going to be a drug addict. I was never so glad to get out from under that "fog."

    Mike

    Hi Mike

    I was also on the Oxycodon for several months the stuff works great but getting off of it for me was hell as I did it cold turkey, I will never do that again.

    Great looking picture my friend
    Hondo
  • NJR
    NJR Member Posts: 82
    yep
    Hey Kent,
    Most case where Fentanyl patches are used for cancer require an additional "fast acting" opiate in conjunction with the patch because the patch is great for persistent, chronic pain that requires a steady even dose, but it is ineffective in preventing "Breakthrough" pain.
    Over a period of a couple of weeks they ran me through the gauntlet of Oxy's up to straight morphine and then started me on the Fentanyl relegating the morphine to "as needed"
    If one is fortunate enough to come off of the pain meds, they then do it in the reverse order weaning the patient off the patch about 25 mcg/h at a time. Once to that level the morphine made it easy to end the Fentanyl all together.
    I will let you know how getting off the morphine goes when they let me stop it, but cutting back to 1 tsp (oral solution) every 10 to 12 hrs has not been difficult.
  • NJR
    NJR Member Posts: 82
    Hondo said:

    Hi Mike

    I was also on the Oxycodon for several months the stuff works great but getting off of it for me was hell as I did it cold turkey, I will never do that again.

    Great looking picture my friend
    Hondo

    Oh my
    Trust me brother I know exactly how you felt. The Fentanyl had me feeling so normal during an extra long break between Chemo treatments due to a bad white blood count that I decided to stop it on my own. After a night of cold sweats, nightmares and every joint in my body screaming at me I learned my lesson with quickness. Cold Turkey is for samiches and nothing else!
  • Mikemetz
    Mikemetz Member Posts: 465 Member
    Hondo said:

    Hi Mikemetz

    Just like to welcome you here to CSN and thanks for the information.

    Hondo

    Thanks
    Thanks for the welcome. I can't believe it took me so long to find this site, but will be an active participant, in the hopes of helping people who are going through what I did in 2009. Speaking of that I see you joined in April of 2009--that was during my chemo+rad treatments--and I sure could have used some insight from others at that time. I am now 2 and a half years cancer-free, and going strong.
  • Kent Cass
    Kent Cass Member Posts: 1,898 Member
    NJR said:

    yep
    Hey Kent,
    Most case where Fentanyl patches are used for cancer require an additional "fast acting" opiate in conjunction with the patch because the patch is great for persistent, chronic pain that requires a steady even dose, but it is ineffective in preventing "Breakthrough" pain.
    Over a period of a couple of weeks they ran me through the gauntlet of Oxy's up to straight morphine and then started me on the Fentanyl relegating the morphine to "as needed"
    If one is fortunate enough to come off of the pain meds, they then do it in the reverse order weaning the patient off the patch about 25 mcg/h at a time. Once to that level the morphine made it easy to end the Fentanyl all together.
    I will let you know how getting off the morphine goes when they let me stop it, but cutting back to 1 tsp (oral solution) every 10 to 12 hrs has not been difficult.

    Thanks
    Passed along the info, for which I am grateful. A green bottle of liquid Oxycontin seems to be one of the additional meds. I only have experience with Morphine and Hydrocodone as pain meds, so your info was most helpful.

    The Subject in play is, again, my Cousin. He went thru John's regiment of chemo, then chemo and rad tx, which failed; then an 8-hour Op that took his voice box, etc.; and, months after that Op has been told he's still got C! His initial tx started a little over a year ago, and I figure he's been on pain meds ever since- especially since the Op last summer. I'm talking serious narcotics use for likely the past year, Folks. He had a long history of alcohol abuse (major) before C, and I reckon the pain meds replaced the booze, and know he's been on a serious amount of those meds for many months, so...Reckon the first order of business, though, is still what it always is with us- Priority #1 is getting rid of the C, at whatever cost. The Drs want him to go thru an MRI on 12/5, then try to treat the remaining C with rads.

    And, of note/lesson to all: his medical bills over the past year must be over $300,000, which includes 3-weeks in hospitals, and a month in a Nursing Home, at least 5 PS/CTs, a couple MRIs, and physical therapy, etc., on top of the forementioned- AND HE'S NEVER HAD ANY INSURANCE! Figure Medicare/Medicaid is picking-up the entire bill, he's never really had a job that lasted any length, and is even getting SSI. So, that is a route that can be taken, though the quality of care is likely compromised. My cost was $3,000 with the two year's of deductibles, and I thought I got it taken care of on the cheap! FYI.

    kcass