WTF?

just4Brooks
just4Brooks Member Posts: 980 Member
Hello everybody, I went to see my Onc yesterday for a “routine visit” only to get a big shock from what she told me. As many of you know I had my last CT scan last May 17th and a few days later I got a call from my doctor telling me that everything is fine and she’ll see me on my next visit. Well, I don’t know if she bumped her head or what but she sat me down and told me that my last scan wasn’t so good. She said that I have two small spots on my lungs (about 3mm) and one on my liver (about 5mm) but said the Radiologist said that they look to be benign but her concern is that benign or not just being there is not a good thing. I didn’t know what to say. I was shocked and upset as she stated that she wants to do another CT scan in Sept and that right now they are too small to biopsy. As I slowly walked to my truck I couldn’t help but get mad. Why didn’t she tell me back in May and knowing my history letting these “Spots” grow? I couldn’t help getting angry driving home. So I woke up this morning from being up almost all night worrying made some phone calls. 1st call was to her office DEMANDING another CT scan ASAP. 2nd call was to her boss DEMANDING to be seen by another doctor for a second opinion and succeeded in both. Next CT scan is Friday at 9:45am and I see a new onc on the 4th. The CT scan also showed something going on with my back and I see my GP tomorrow so I’ll ask him about that. So it looks like my cancer fight isn’t over and that it’s time to get my cancer sword out and polish it up for another fight.

Brooks
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  • Sundanceh
    Sundanceh Member Posts: 4,392 Member
    Need My Cancer Sword?
    I've still got blood stains on it from this past year's battle, but it still cuts real clean.

    We haven't kept up much, Brooks, so in case you did not know.....I'm back on watch and wait status on my 3rd recurrence in the past 7 years.

    You can borrow my sword and if you need a shield, body armor or artillery for your big guns, I'm only a PM away:)

    Spots on your lung are tiny - mine was 6cm (size of tangerine). And why they may need to come out, it might not have to be this very second. You can watch them another scan cycle to see if they grow or how significant the growth is. If they continue to grow, then benign or malignant, they will have to come out.

    I had benign lung tumors the first time with da Vinci and the next lung tumors were cancerous, so it's always hard to say.

    As far as biopsies, you might want to save yourself some time and money. If they don't grow, then you watch them - if they do continue to grow, then there is VATS, da Vinci, or an open thoracotomy.

    Biposies are so hit and miss anyway - and how do you believe them? I mean if they say cancer do you believe that? And if they say no cancer, do you believe that?

    The only tried and true test comes in the O/R when the fully excise the tumor and biopsy it right there. That takes the guesswork away and in a big way.

    And liver? I did RFA and Cyberknife on my tumor (8cm small orange) with good success, so that might be possible. And RFA has an equal to or better survival percentage than a standard liver resection. So, don't be fooled there.

    Remember, sometimes waiting a month or two is not a bad thing. We all think we have to jump through hoops the minute anything pops up. but the lungs are delicate and you can only go in there so many times, so you want to wait and make that surgery count and not do it just to do it.

    Because there's always recurrence and that's what makes our battle so difficult.

    Having said all of that, let's look at your new onc and see what they have to say and take it from there. It might not be as bad as you think and we'll soon see.

    Take care my friend.

    -Craig
  • pepebcn
    pepebcn Member Posts: 6,331 Member
    Sundanceh said:

    Need My Cancer Sword?
    I've still got blood stains on it from this past year's battle, but it still cuts real clean.

    We haven't kept up much, Brooks, so in case you did not know.....I'm back on watch and wait status on my 3rd recurrence in the past 7 years.

    You can borrow my sword and if you need a shield, body armor or artillery for your big guns, I'm only a PM away:)

    Spots on your lung are tiny - mine was 6cm (size of tangerine). And why they may need to come out, it might not have to be this very second. You can watch them another scan cycle to see if they grow or how significant the growth is. If they continue to grow, then benign or malignant, they will have to come out.

    I had benign lung tumors the first time with da Vinci and the next lung tumors were cancerous, so it's always hard to say.

    As far as biopsies, you might want to save yourself some time and money. If they don't grow, then you watch them - if they do continue to grow, then there is VATS, da Vinci, or an open thoracotomy.

    Biposies are so hit and miss anyway - and how do you believe them? I mean if they say cancer do you believe that? And if they say no cancer, do you believe that?

    The only tried and true test comes in the O/R when the fully excise the tumor and biopsy it right there. That takes the guesswork away and in a big way.

    And liver? I did RFA and Cyberknife on my tumor (8cm small orange) with good success, so that might be possible. And RFA has an equal to or better survival percentage than a standard liver resection. So, don't be fooled there.

    Remember, sometimes waiting a month or two is not a bad thing. We all think we have to jump through hoops the minute anything pops up. but the lungs are delicate and you can only go in there so many times, so you want to wait and make that surgery count and not do it just to do it.

    Because there's always recurrence and that's what makes our battle so difficult.

    Having said all of that, let's look at your new onc and see what they have to say and take it from there. It might not be as bad as you think and we'll soon see.

    Take care my friend.

    -Craig

    yes Brooks WtF! you are right !
    Hope is just a false alarm!
    Hugs and vibes my friend!
  • daBeachBum
    daBeachBum Member Posts: 164
    WTF indeed!
    That's crazy! I hope you have better luck with the new doc. Are they in the same practice? That could muddy things.

    Anyway, I wish you all the best and hope this turns out to be nothing to worry about.

    Take care,

    Ray
  • lisa42
    lisa42 Member Posts: 3,625 Member
    Oh, man
    Hi Brooks,

    Man- what a lousy deal that your onc told you everything was fine after your last scan. Did you ask her why she didn't tell you before??
    I do hope and pray that they are benign, but what stress you're having to go through. I think it's good that you called back and got the CT scheduled sooner since it's already been more than 2 months since the other one.
    Keep us informed as to what's going on.

    Sorry, Brooks-

    Hugs,
    Lisa

    P.S. Are you still coming down this way in August? I'll be back from my cruise on Aug. 7th pm- back checking the board and FB Aug 8th. Let me know if you end up down this way.
  • idlehunters
    idlehunters Member Posts: 1,787 Member
    lisa42 said:

    Oh, man
    Hi Brooks,

    Man- what a lousy deal that your onc told you everything was fine after your last scan. Did you ask her why she didn't tell you before??
    I do hope and pray that they are benign, but what stress you're having to go through. I think it's good that you called back and got the CT scheduled sooner since it's already been more than 2 months since the other one.
    Keep us informed as to what's going on.

    Sorry, Brooks-

    Hugs,
    Lisa

    P.S. Are you still coming down this way in August? I'll be back from my cruise on Aug. 7th pm- back checking the board and FB Aug 8th. Let me know if you end up down this way.

    Dang!
    Well ain't that a bunch of crap!!!!. Sorry to hear this Brooks. Let us know how the scan goes. Take care

    Jennie
  • christinecarl
    christinecarl Member Posts: 543 Member
    WTF Indeed
    I am glad you called back switched Drs and demanded a new scan. I hope the next scan does show that things are not bad. Good luck.
  • tootsie1
    tootsie1 Member Posts: 5,044 Member
    Terrible
    Hey, Brooks.

    That just makes me shake my head. Why in the world didn't she tell you the true results in May, so you could make an informed decision for yourself? I'm so glad you called and got fierce with them. This is your LIFE!

    Praying for great results!

    *hugs*
    Gail
  • johnnybegood
    johnnybegood Member Posts: 1,117 Member
    tootsie1 said:

    Terrible
    Hey, Brooks.

    That just makes me shake my head. Why in the world didn't she tell you the true results in May, so you could make an informed decision for yourself? I'm so glad you called and got fierce with them. This is your LIFE!

    Praying for great results!

    *hugs*
    Gail

    brooks
    so sorry for this news.i just had a scare myself with my onc and i really dont feel like talking about it right now but believe me when i say i know how you feel...Godbless...johnnybegood
  • Nana b
    Nana b Member Posts: 3,030 Member

    brooks
    so sorry for this news.i just had a scare myself with my onc and i really dont feel like talking about it right now but believe me when i say i know how you feel...Godbless...johnnybegood

    So sorry to hear that.
    So sorry to hear that. Pisses us all off when s..t like that happens! Johnnybegood, get it off your chest, don't hold it in!
  • HollyID
    HollyID Member Posts: 946 Member
    Brooks,
    I would be so pissed, there just aren't words. Did she not read the last report? I would demand answers. I'm praying that this scan on Friday is a good one. Love ya bud!!
  • Sundanceh
    Sundanceh Member Posts: 4,392 Member

    brooks
    so sorry for this news.i just had a scare myself with my onc and i really dont feel like talking about it right now but believe me when i say i know how you feel...Godbless...johnnybegood

    JBG
    Hey Gal - I'd be glad to talk with you about it anytime that you feel like it:)

    -Craig
  • Kathleen808
    Kathleen808 Member Posts: 2,342 Member
    Hey Brooks
    Hey Brooks,
    Yes, that is crap. You did the right thing withe your two demands. How about a PET scan?

    Let us know. We care about you.

    Aloha,
    Kathleen
  • Fight for my love
    Fight for my love Member Posts: 1,522 Member
    Hi Brooks,if I were you,I
    Hi Brooks,if I were you,I would fire her too.You did the right thing and you did good.Sometimes we are in shock and we don't know what to do right this moment,but after we sink in and think about it,we can take actions.You are in my prayers,and I hope everything will be ok.Best wishes to you.Take care.
  • geotina
    geotina Member Posts: 2,111 Member
    Brooks:
    WTF is right. Talk about kick in the pants. George and I know all too well the way you are feeling about now. As an aside, your doc dropped the ball on this one, but since they are very small there is a good chance at knocking them down. I got no words of wisdom except hang in there and just do what you need to do.

    Hugs - Tina
  • dorookie
    dorookie Member Posts: 1,731 Member
    OMG
    What a load of crap, so glad you called back, you dont need this crap, I pray for good scan results, but so sorry your having to go through this stress...Please keep us posted on your new scan and new ONC....

    HUGS
    Beth
  • taraHK
    taraHK Member Posts: 1,952 Member
    Grrr
    So sorry to hear this news -- the spots but also the behavior of your Onc. You have done all the right things now. For what it's worth, when I had a very small spot on my lung (similar size to your spots), the decision was "watchful waiting" and I had a repeat scan in 3 mos. I say this in hopes of relieving some anxiety about the time-frame.

    Fingers and toes crossed for good results (disappeared, no change, benign....)

    All good things,

    Tara
  • coolvdub
    coolvdub Member Posts: 408 Member
    taraHK said:

    Grrr
    So sorry to hear this news -- the spots but also the behavior of your Onc. You have done all the right things now. For what it's worth, when I had a very small spot on my lung (similar size to your spots), the decision was "watchful waiting" and I had a repeat scan in 3 mos. I say this in hopes of relieving some anxiety about the time-frame.

    Fingers and toes crossed for good results (disappeared, no change, benign....)

    All good things,

    Tara

    this hits home
    Brooks,

    I'm sorry you are going through this. I just a couple of weeks ago found out my Onc was not being totally honest with me while I was doing chemo. Turns out he thinks he knows more about me than I do. He stated that he didn't tell me I only had a 50% chance of surviving, because he didn't think I could take the news. How dare he or any Dr. make my choices for me. I would not have liked the news, but not giving us all the information is like sending into a gunfight with an unloaded gun.

    I really like my Dr. and will try to work things out, basically he will be told 100% honesty is required or he can't be my Dr. any longer. Also I will tell him point blank, if you ever lie to me again, you are fired and then I will drag you in front of the medical board to get your liscence revoked.
  • relaxoutdoors08
    relaxoutdoors08 Member Posts: 521 Member
    coolvdub said:

    this hits home
    Brooks,

    I'm sorry you are going through this. I just a couple of weeks ago found out my Onc was not being totally honest with me while I was doing chemo. Turns out he thinks he knows more about me than I do. He stated that he didn't tell me I only had a 50% chance of surviving, because he didn't think I could take the news. How dare he or any Dr. make my choices for me. I would not have liked the news, but not giving us all the information is like sending into a gunfight with an unloaded gun.

    I really like my Dr. and will try to work things out, basically he will be told 100% honesty is required or he can't be my Dr. any longer. Also I will tell him point blank, if you ever lie to me again, you are fired and then I will drag you in front of the medical board to get your liscence revoked.

    50% Survival
    What does your Onc.base his 50% prediction on???

    NB
  • just4Brooks
    just4Brooks Member Posts: 980 Member
    coolvdub said:

    this hits home
    Brooks,

    I'm sorry you are going through this. I just a couple of weeks ago found out my Onc was not being totally honest with me while I was doing chemo. Turns out he thinks he knows more about me than I do. He stated that he didn't tell me I only had a 50% chance of surviving, because he didn't think I could take the news. How dare he or any Dr. make my choices for me. I would not have liked the news, but not giving us all the information is like sending into a gunfight with an unloaded gun.

    I really like my Dr. and will try to work things out, basically he will be told 100% honesty is required or he can't be my Dr. any longer. Also I will tell him point blank, if you ever lie to me again, you are fired and then I will drag you in front of the medical board to get your liscence revoked.

    Wishy Washy
    I'll post my update as soon as I talk to my new onc on the 4th. Good idea for everybody to ask for copies of scans and Dr visits.
  • Buzzard
    Buzzard Member Posts: 3,043 Member

    Wishy Washy
    I'll post my update as soon as I talk to my new onc on the 4th. Good idea for everybody to ask for copies of scans and Dr visits.

    Just for the record.....
    My CT scan showed all clear...My PET scan lite up in the hilum area and also a small dull image on my right liver. So just because a CT shows clear doesn't mean somethings not up....My rise in CEA is what got the attention of my Onc...I will give her credit, so far so good..but we all have to be diligent in knowledge and keeping full speed ahead on keeping it under control....I wish only the best in all of this for ya Brooks..sorry that you or any of us even have to deal with this period.......buzz