Killing a tumor with magnetism?

Stumbled upon this interesting article about how research is being performed with "nano-particles" and magnetism to KILL a cancerous tumor.

http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2011/07/magnetic-nanoparticles-fry-tumor.html

Basically, they inject a dose of very, very small particles of a magnetic substance, then place the area inside a magnetic field which reacts with the particles causing them to heat the tumor and kill the cells. The only side-effects detected so far is an allergic reaction to the particles... but I'm betting a nice dose of benedryl would take care of that ;)

Interesting read.

Comments

  • Buckwirth
    Buckwirth Member Posts: 1,258 Member
    Clickable link
    magnetic nanoparticles fry tumor

    Very interesting article.
  • John23
    John23 Member Posts: 2,122 Member
    Magnetic attraction?

    It should be noted, that -anything- can kill cancer cells, just as
    "anything" can kill the aids virus.

    The problem isn't "what killing agent to use", the problem is:
    how to hit the target with the killing agent.

    Cancer cells will die if you inject them with Coca Cola (or
    Pepsi Cola), or magnetic particles, or grape seed extract,
    or Almond extract, or ________ (fill in the blank).

    Eating, drinking, or otherwise ingesting, or injecting, the "killing
    agent" into the body in toto, will not do what it can do when it is
    injected into the cancer cell directly.

    There are indeed, other methods of addressing cancer cells
    that have worked well for a few thousand years or more.....

    And there are many other "alternatives" that have been
    around nearly as long, that some can attest to as having
    worked well for them.

    But "magnets".......?

    Grapes seeds are less expensive, and are easier to digest.
    </sarcasm>

    Best of health!

    John
  • Buckwirth
    Buckwirth Member Posts: 1,258 Member
    John23 said:

    Magnetic attraction?

    It should be noted, that -anything- can kill cancer cells, just as
    "anything" can kill the aids virus.

    The problem isn't "what killing agent to use", the problem is:
    how to hit the target with the killing agent.

    Cancer cells will die if you inject them with Coca Cola (or
    Pepsi Cola), or magnetic particles, or grape seed extract,
    or Almond extract, or ________ (fill in the blank).

    Eating, drinking, or otherwise ingesting, or injecting, the "killing
    agent" into the body in toto, will not do what it can do when it is
    injected into the cancer cell directly.

    There are indeed, other methods of addressing cancer cells
    that have worked well for a few thousand years or more.....

    And there are many other "alternatives" that have been
    around nearly as long, that some can attest to as having
    worked well for them.

    But "magnets".......?

    Grapes seeds are less expensive, and are easier to digest.
    </sarcasm>

    Best of health!

    John

    John,
    Your cynicism is refreshing.

    I admit, when I saw "magnetism" my quack alarm went off. However, the magnetic particles are just a heat generator, much like radiation, and they kill the cancer, not the healthy tissue.

    You are correct that other substances can do the same, but delivery is an issue, and many of those substances kill healthy tissue as well.

    Of course, even if this can be made to work in humans it is probably 15 to 20 years away, so the point is merely an academic one.

    Lighten up. It is not going to replace your four thousand (though most scholars say 2.5) year old medicine.
  • John23
    John23 Member Posts: 2,122 Member
    Buckwirth said:

    John,
    Your cynicism is refreshing.

    I admit, when I saw "magnetism" my quack alarm went off. However, the magnetic particles are just a heat generator, much like radiation, and they kill the cancer, not the healthy tissue.

    You are correct that other substances can do the same, but delivery is an issue, and many of those substances kill healthy tissue as well.

    Of course, even if this can be made to work in humans it is probably 15 to 20 years away, so the point is merely an academic one.

    Lighten up. It is not going to replace your four thousand (though most scholars say 2.5) year old medicine.

    Buck..
    Good to see you posting again!

    We thought you had left the forum for good!

    The "going away" party wasn't totally in vain however, and we
    did save you some Beer Nuts.

    (It is good to read your delightful posts again; they manage
    to keep my blood flowing without the use of Heparin)

    Stay well!

    John
  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member
    Killing Cancer
    This reminds me of the The Kanzius Machine in a way because of how it tries to target the cancer cells and leave the other cells OK. 60 Minutes had done a profile on the Doctor too.
    Thanks for posting. Always nice to see other information.
    -phil
  • Buckwirth
    Buckwirth Member Posts: 1,258 Member
    John23 said:

    Buck..
    Good to see you posting again!

    We thought you had left the forum for good!

    The "going away" party wasn't totally in vain however, and we
    did save you some Beer Nuts.

    (It is good to read your delightful posts again; they manage
    to keep my blood flowing without the use of Heparin)

    Stay well!

    John

    "We thought you had left the forum for good!"
    Really? I doubt a week has gone by where I did not post something, and I am up to day 7 on my Europe trip.

    Heck, we posted together in more than one recent thread.

    Anyway, thanks for the beer nuts, and I am happy to hear that your blood still flows.

    Health to you,

    Blake
  • SisterSledge
    SisterSledge Member Posts: 332 Member
    advances that excite me
    This is one of the advances in cancer treatment that excite me...as does almost every application of nanotechnology I've read about. Great stuff! Hopefully we'll see some big changes within medicine happening in our lifetime.
  • AncientTiger
    AncientTiger Member Posts: 130

    advances that excite me
    This is one of the advances in cancer treatment that excite me...as does almost every application of nanotechnology I've read about. Great stuff! Hopefully we'll see some big changes within medicine happening in our lifetime.

    Cure? Who knows....
    May turn into a turd in the punch bowl (and likely will... who knows what the long term effects of having those particles in your system might be), but I thought it looked interesting ;)
  • John23
    John23 Member Posts: 2,122 Member

    Cure? Who knows....
    May turn into a turd in the punch bowl (and likely will... who knows what the long term effects of having those particles in your system might be), but I thought it looked interesting ;)

    Well for one thing....

    It'd be hell trying to swim in the pool, with the continual swings to the north....

    And just the thought alone, of all those refrigerator thingies sticking to me... ugh.

    Naww, I'll pass on this invention...
  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900 Member

    Cure? Who knows....
    May turn into a turd in the punch bowl (and likely will... who knows what the long term effects of having those particles in your system might be), but I thought it looked interesting ;)

    a turd in the punch bowl
    i love it, we have the widest range of descriptive phrases.

    the future is looking good, one day one of these groups will deliver the smoking gun
    and we can all celebrate.

    todays alternative or complementary maybe tomorrows mainstream.

    hugs,
    pete
  • SisterSledge
    SisterSledge Member Posts: 332 Member
    John23 said:

    Well for one thing....

    It'd be hell trying to swim in the pool, with the continual swings to the north....

    And just the thought alone, of all those refrigerator thingies sticking to me... ugh.

    Naww, I'll pass on this invention...

    iron-oxide
    I'd happily trade my cancer for some residual magnetized iron-oxide in my body...getting rid of a tumor without chemo, radiation, resections, etc? Yay!!!