"Four Cups a Joe" per day, drink up!
"Results of a recent study add to the brewing evidence that drinking coffee protects against cancer, this time against head and neck cancer. Full study results are published in 'Cancer epidemiology, Biomarkers & Prevention' a journal of the american association for cancer research.
"using information pooled from nine studies collected by the " International head and neck cancer Epidemiology consortium, participants who drank four or more cups of coffee per day compared to non drinkers, had a 39% decreased risk of oral cavity and pharynx cancers combined...Mia hashibe, PHD, assistant professor, preventive medicine, university of Utah,
"what makes our results so unique is that we had a very large sample size and combined data across many studies giving us more power to detect associations between cancer and coffee"
"Harvard has presented data showing decreased risk for aggreasive prostrate cancer and coffee consumption, 60 percent lower risk."
January issue of "Cancer Epidemiology, Biomarkers & Prevention, showed a decrease in brain tumors with those who drank five or more cups of coffee or tea"
They close by saying that "These findings provide further impetus to pursue research to understand the role of coffee..."
Obviously it's too late for us but something to consider perhaps to stave off other cancers?
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I had heard of this study
I had heard of this study before. I don't drink much coffee at all anymore. I used to have some everyday when I worked. Never cups and cups of it a day tho. I am too nervous and too hyper as it is. Lol. Now I drink decaf. I was always a bigger tea drinker. I drink 2-4 cups of tea a day now. At night or late after noon I stick to decaf tea.
Good news for some hard core coffee drinkers I know but won't name as CSN friends. Lol.
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Good news for medonna340 said:Thats great news. I love coffee. I think i drink about a pot a day getting ready for work.
Rat,
Good post and yes I saw same report also. I really want to believe it, cause if it's true and with my addiction to coffee I ought to be cured in a couple weeks - lol. Was trying to keep my intake to having a cup every other day, but I'm back up to a couple cups a day. Oh well if that's my worst habit, maybe it will help my cause versus hurting.
Positive thoughts!
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Does not apply to decafSkiffin16 said:COFFEE
Hmmm, didn't seem to help me, LOL...I drink a several cups a day usually....
JG
Sorry decaf dosen't count and tea seems to have positive effects at least in the brain cancer study. Also for reasons I don't understand "laryngeal" cancer is not affected. And yes I drank plenty of coffee prior to diagnosis.0 -
JohnSkiffin16 said:COFFEE
Hmmm, didn't seem to help me, LOL...I drink a several cups a day usually....
JG
You were just one of the people I had in mind. Lol. I was thinking the same thing. 0 -
Hummmratface said:Does not apply to decaf
Sorry decaf dosen't count and tea seems to have positive effects at least in the brain cancer study. Also for reasons I don't understand "laryngeal" cancer is not affected. And yes I drank plenty of coffee prior to diagnosis.
Interesting maybe it is the caffeine and not the coffee lol
Anyway I like my Green tea and need to protect what little is left to my brain, thanks for post Ratface
Take care
Hondo0 -
One cup a day!sweetblood22 said:John
You were just one of the people I had in mind. Lol. I was thinking the same thing.
I sure do miss the high test! Now I am down to one cup per day & it is decaf! Trying to cure
my ulcer & my Dr. said big no if you suffer from anxiety & panic attack's. I used to drink a pot a day.0 -
Shellssweetblood22 said:John
You were just one of the people I had in mind. Lol. I was thinking the same thing.
LOL, you know my wife likes her coffee also....
JG0 -
coffee
Hi everyone. I've been super busy so have stayed away for a bit longer than I intended. I opened a new office and they wrote about it at http://petaluma.patch.com/articles/new-sliding-scale-clinic-fills-void-left-by-budget-cuts - we're getting busier so the marketing effort is paying off. Also this day marks one year since treatment started (chemo and rads) and I'm still kicking!
I wanted to chime in on the coffee is good for you thread. Coffee is chocked full of anti-oxidants however it does make the blood pH more acidic which some claim is a causal link to some cancers. The idea is that a more acidic pH creates a more compliant 'field' in which cancers can grow. The book Anticancer covers this ground pretty well.
I love my coffee but am curious about the pH aspect. I'm trying to discover the best way to measure blood pH so if anyone has a suggestion please post it here.
Best,
Mick0 -
Acid Refluxmicktissue said:coffee
Hi everyone. I've been super busy so have stayed away for a bit longer than I intended. I opened a new office and they wrote about it at http://petaluma.patch.com/articles/new-sliding-scale-clinic-fills-void-left-by-budget-cuts - we're getting busier so the marketing effort is paying off. Also this day marks one year since treatment started (chemo and rads) and I'm still kicking!
I wanted to chime in on the coffee is good for you thread. Coffee is chocked full of anti-oxidants however it does make the blood pH more acidic which some claim is a causal link to some cancers. The idea is that a more acidic pH creates a more compliant 'field' in which cancers can grow. The book Anticancer covers this ground pretty well.
I love my coffee but am curious about the pH aspect. I'm trying to discover the best way to measure blood pH so if anyone has a suggestion please post it here.
Best,
Mick
In my case it leads to acid reflux which does not play well with cancer. I still sneak a cup or two of half and half a day.0 -
At the risk ofmicktissue said:coffee
Hi everyone. I've been super busy so have stayed away for a bit longer than I intended. I opened a new office and they wrote about it at http://petaluma.patch.com/articles/new-sliding-scale-clinic-fills-void-left-by-budget-cuts - we're getting busier so the marketing effort is paying off. Also this day marks one year since treatment started (chemo and rads) and I'm still kicking!
I wanted to chime in on the coffee is good for you thread. Coffee is chocked full of anti-oxidants however it does make the blood pH more acidic which some claim is a causal link to some cancers. The idea is that a more acidic pH creates a more compliant 'field' in which cancers can grow. The book Anticancer covers this ground pretty well.
I love my coffee but am curious about the pH aspect. I'm trying to discover the best way to measure blood pH so if anyone has a suggestion please post it here.
Best,
Mick
stepping on toes, I'll point out that our bodies rigidly control pH of our blood with a very efficient system involving lungs and kidneys. Food really doesn't change your pH, unless you are a diabetic and having severe insulin issues.
Strictly speaking, even the pH of blood in diabetics who experiencing ketoacidosis is not "acidic" as the lowest you get before you fall into a coma is about 7, which is neutral. Normal blood pH is about 7.4 or so - you start seeing effects if it drops below 7.3 (again, this requires low insulin or other severe issues, such as a heart attack or kidney failure).
The quickest way to lower your blood pH is to hold your breath (don't worry, it won't change that much) and the quickest way to raise it is to hyperventilate. Both will trigger feedback mechanisms that will restore your pH to normal quickly. Your kidneys do a longer-term regulation by controlling the amounts of bicarbonate (alkaline) and protons (acid) in the blood they are filtering.
So, in more-or-less healthy person, can eating "acidic" food make your blood pH go down? Remember that the acid produced by your stomach is way stronger than any acid you might consume, so it seems unlikely.
As Joel pointed out, however, stomach irritants (of which coffee is one, but not necessarily because of its pH - it is less acidic than lemonade) can cause acid reflux - chronic acid reflux is linked to esophageal cancer.
Measuring blood pH requires a blood sample that is not exposed to air (so it can't be a finger stick test) - not something you can check at home (using saliva or urine is not at all indicative of blood pH).0 -
Dr MaryDrMary said:At the risk of
stepping on toes, I'll point out that our bodies rigidly control pH of our blood with a very efficient system involving lungs and kidneys. Food really doesn't change your pH, unless you are a diabetic and having severe insulin issues.
Strictly speaking, even the pH of blood in diabetics who experiencing ketoacidosis is not "acidic" as the lowest you get before you fall into a coma is about 7, which is neutral. Normal blood pH is about 7.4 or so - you start seeing effects if it drops below 7.3 (again, this requires low insulin or other severe issues, such as a heart attack or kidney failure).
The quickest way to lower your blood pH is to hold your breath (don't worry, it won't change that much) and the quickest way to raise it is to hyperventilate. Both will trigger feedback mechanisms that will restore your pH to normal quickly. Your kidneys do a longer-term regulation by controlling the amounts of bicarbonate (alkaline) and protons (acid) in the blood they are filtering.
So, in more-or-less healthy person, can eating "acidic" food make your blood pH go down? Remember that the acid produced by your stomach is way stronger than any acid you might consume, so it seems unlikely.
As Joel pointed out, however, stomach irritants (of which coffee is one, but not necessarily because of its pH - it is less acidic than lemonade) can cause acid reflux - chronic acid reflux is linked to esophageal cancer.
Measuring blood pH requires a blood sample that is not exposed to air (so it can't be a finger stick test) - not something you can check at home (using saliva or urine is not at all indicative of blood pH).
Hi Dr Mary - don't worry about my toes ;-) I am grateful to be corrected.
Best,
Mick0 -
Thanks Dr. Mary for posting.DrMary said:At the risk of
stepping on toes, I'll point out that our bodies rigidly control pH of our blood with a very efficient system involving lungs and kidneys. Food really doesn't change your pH, unless you are a diabetic and having severe insulin issues.
Strictly speaking, even the pH of blood in diabetics who experiencing ketoacidosis is not "acidic" as the lowest you get before you fall into a coma is about 7, which is neutral. Normal blood pH is about 7.4 or so - you start seeing effects if it drops below 7.3 (again, this requires low insulin or other severe issues, such as a heart attack or kidney failure).
The quickest way to lower your blood pH is to hold your breath (don't worry, it won't change that much) and the quickest way to raise it is to hyperventilate. Both will trigger feedback mechanisms that will restore your pH to normal quickly. Your kidneys do a longer-term regulation by controlling the amounts of bicarbonate (alkaline) and protons (acid) in the blood they are filtering.
So, in more-or-less healthy person, can eating "acidic" food make your blood pH go down? Remember that the acid produced by your stomach is way stronger than any acid you might consume, so it seems unlikely.
As Joel pointed out, however, stomach irritants (of which coffee is one, but not necessarily because of its pH - it is less acidic than lemonade) can cause acid reflux - chronic acid reflux is linked to esophageal cancer.
Measuring blood pH requires a blood sample that is not exposed to air (so it can't be a finger stick test) - not something you can check at home (using saliva or urine is not at all indicative of blood pH).
I often have people comment about my diet and tell me that I have to keep it less acidic and more alkaline and that I should cut out certain foods like yogurt and fruits.... This never seemed like it would work to me. Sometimes I feel like there is just so much misinformation out there that a person sometimes doesn't know what to think or believe any more. In this Internet age both true and false info flies around the globe at the speed of light. I try to do the best I can in disseminating information but sometimes that is not easy for an untrained or someone like me that doesn't have a college education under her belt.
I guess I still feel comfortable with my approach to food and trying to eat healthier and that is all that matters since it is my body. I usually just say thanks for the tips to the people that try to sway me to their way of eating. I just had someone try and get me to buy a book or programme the other day and they were telling me that apple seeds can cure cancer. The whole time I am sitting there thinking to myself, "Dont apple seeds have arsenic in them or something??" Sometimes I am just afraid some of this crazy stuff people throw out there as a cure can hurt people.
Mick, great to see you post! I am very glad to know you are busy and doing well. 0 -
But let's also keep in mindsweetblood22 said:Thanks Dr. Mary for posting.
I often have people comment about my diet and tell me that I have to keep it less acidic and more alkaline and that I should cut out certain foods like yogurt and fruits.... This never seemed like it would work to me. Sometimes I feel like there is just so much misinformation out there that a person sometimes doesn't know what to think or believe any more. In this Internet age both true and false info flies around the globe at the speed of light. I try to do the best I can in disseminating information but sometimes that is not easy for an untrained or someone like me that doesn't have a college education under her belt.
I guess I still feel comfortable with my approach to food and trying to eat healthier and that is all that matters since it is my body. I usually just say thanks for the tips to the people that try to sway me to their way of eating. I just had someone try and get me to buy a book or programme the other day and they were telling me that apple seeds can cure cancer. The whole time I am sitting there thinking to myself, "Dont apple seeds have arsenic in them or something??" Sometimes I am just afraid some of this crazy stuff people throw out there as a cure can hurt people.
Mick, great to see you post! I am very glad to know you are busy and doing well.
that some medical truths seemed crazy at first - the most notable to me is the idea that ulcers could be caused by bacteria. In retrospect, anyone who has seen how bacteria can eat holes in flesh and teeth AND who has knowledge of extremophiles (organisms that can live in extreme conditions, such as dead seas and volcanic vents) would not think that to be strange. But the researcher was scoffed at by some (mostly hide-bound GI doctors who "knew" that ulcers were caused by stress) until his research was published and accepted by peers.
I'm not sure about apple seeds - apricot and cherry pits have a cyanide compound in them (arsenic is a heavy metal - still poisonous but not likely to be found in healthy plants) - likely a defense mechanism. It's not really a problem unless you eat lots or concentrated extracts (I think some of the old cherry liquors had measureable amounts of cyanide). I remember a kid (it made the news because courts got involved) whose parents took him to Mexico for laetril treatments for leukemia, as they were put off by conventional medicine's honesty (a good chance he would survive 5 years but no promises). He died within months; within a year, the treatment had advanced to the point where he would have likely stayed in remission for decades.
Sorry, just earning my reputation as a fun-sucker.0 -
Lol. You're not a fun-sucker.DrMary said:But let's also keep in mind
that some medical truths seemed crazy at first - the most notable to me is the idea that ulcers could be caused by bacteria. In retrospect, anyone who has seen how bacteria can eat holes in flesh and teeth AND who has knowledge of extremophiles (organisms that can live in extreme conditions, such as dead seas and volcanic vents) would not think that to be strange. But the researcher was scoffed at by some (mostly hide-bound GI doctors who "knew" that ulcers were caused by stress) until his research was published and accepted by peers.
I'm not sure about apple seeds - apricot and cherry pits have a cyanide compound in them (arsenic is a heavy metal - still poisonous but not likely to be found in healthy plants) - likely a defense mechanism. It's not really a problem unless you eat lots or concentrated extracts (I think some of the old cherry liquors had measureable amounts of cyanide). I remember a kid (it made the news because courts got involved) whose parents took him to Mexico for laetril treatments for leukemia, as they were put off by conventional medicine's honesty (a good chance he would survive 5 years but no promises). He died within months; within a year, the treatment had advanced to the point where he would have likely stayed in remission for decades.
Sorry, just earning my reputation as a fun-sucker.
I think I meant cyanide anyway. For some reason I always get the two confused.
This afternoon I had some one telling me that they were cured of cancer (ovarian? I think she said) because she went to some clinic in Mexico, but now she cannot take antibiotics because that will kill off the treatment she was given for her cancer and it will come back. Her story was an hour long tho. I tried to be polite and listen. It was hard to keep my mouth shut thru the whole thing.0 -
Acidic Foodsweetblood22 said:Lol. You're not a fun-sucker.
I think I meant cyanide anyway. For some reason I always get the two confused.
This afternoon I had some one telling me that they were cured of cancer (ovarian? I think she said) because she went to some clinic in Mexico, but now she cannot take antibiotics because that will kill off the treatment she was given for her cancer and it will come back. Her story was an hour long tho. I tried to be polite and listen. It was hard to keep my mouth shut thru the whole thing.
I was given a list of food to cut back on plus was advised to eat smaller meals more frequently. It has been difficult because of being limited as to what can go down as it is. I seem to be doing better & laying off of the caffiene has helped. Let me tell you that list of food was very long. I followed the Dr's suggestion's & it seem's to be working so far.0 -
YIPEE!!rozaroo said:Acidic Food
I was given a list of food to cut back on plus was advised to eat smaller meals more frequently. It has been difficult because of being limited as to what can go down as it is. I seem to be doing better & laying off of the caffiene has helped. Let me tell you that list of food was very long. I followed the Dr's suggestion's & it seem's to be working so far.
Now I can drink EVEN MORE COFFEE!
How about CHEESECAKE or KNISHES?
any good studies on them??
Caffeinated hugs to you all
Stacey0
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