Bleeding in center of 2012 treatment area

jbug2
jbug2 Member Posts: 73
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I had some unexplained bleeding right around New Year's Eve, my surgeon said it appears right in the center of the old treatment area it may have been bleeding.  He said the same thing during one appointment, then 3 months later.  He also said I have 2 internal hemorrhoids and 1 external hemorrhoid.  He plans to do an exploratory colonoscopy on the 24th, banding off the hemorrhoids and cutting the external one.  I'm not sure what to make of all of this?  I lift weights at the gym about 2 or 3 times a week ... after one workout experienced about 1/2 ounce of bleeding (New Year's Eve).  I'm a bit uneasy about returning for any "exploration" down there.  Embarassed

Any comments on the "bleeding spot" in the middle of the old treatment area?  I don't think I've seen any blood from the anal area since around New Years.

 

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  • mp327
    mp327 Member Posts: 4,440 Member
    #2
    jbug2

    I can understand your concern and I'm glad that you have had this checked out by your doctor and that he will be doing a colonoscopy to investigate the source of the bleeding.  Hopefully, it is all due to the hemorrhoids and once removed, you will have no more bleeding incidents.  It's curious that you had bleeding after a weight lifting session.  As you know, hemorrhoids can respond by bleeding when the area is stressed, such as when lifting weights.  I am a weight-lifter too.  While I don't remember having any bouts of bleeding after lifting, I can see how it could easily happen when a person has hemorrhoids.

    I agree that exploration can cause trauma to the treatment area, which is already very friable.  However, I think it's good that your doctor is making sure he knows the source of the bleeding.  I hope your scope procedure will go well and that you will have an easy recovery from it.  May there be only hemorrhoids causing this and nothing more sinister.  Please let us know how it goes.

    Martha

  • jbug2
    jbug2 Member Posts: 73
    #3
    mp327 said:

    jbug2

    I can understand your concern and I'm glad that you have had this checked out by your doctor and that he will be doing a colonoscopy to investigate the source of the bleeding.  Hopefully, it is all due to the hemorrhoids and once removed, you will have no more bleeding incidents.  It's curious that you had bleeding after a weight lifting session.  As you know, hemorrhoids can respond by bleeding when the area is stressed, such as when lifting weights.  I am a weight-lifter too.  While I don't remember having any bouts of bleeding after lifting, I can see how it could easily happen when a person has hemorrhoids.

    I agree that exploration can cause trauma to the treatment area, which is already very friable.  However, I think it's good that your doctor is making sure he knows the source of the bleeding.  I hope your scope procedure will go well and that you will have an easy recovery from it.  May there be only hemorrhoids causing this and nothing more sinister.  Please let us know how it goes.

    Martha

    Thanks, Martha!  I'll know at

    Thanks, Martha!  I'll know at the end of the day, tomorrow (procedure is tomorrow).

     

  • jbug2
    jbug2 Member Posts: 73
    #4
    mp327 said:

    jbug2

    I can understand your concern and I'm glad that you have had this checked out by your doctor and that he will be doing a colonoscopy to investigate the source of the bleeding.  Hopefully, it is all due to the hemorrhoids and once removed, you will have no more bleeding incidents.  It's curious that you had bleeding after a weight lifting session.  As you know, hemorrhoids can respond by bleeding when the area is stressed, such as when lifting weights.  I am a weight-lifter too.  While I don't remember having any bouts of bleeding after lifting, I can see how it could easily happen when a person has hemorrhoids.

    I agree that exploration can cause trauma to the treatment area, which is already very friable.  However, I think it's good that your doctor is making sure he knows the source of the bleeding.  I hope your scope procedure will go well and that you will have an easy recovery from it.  May there be only hemorrhoids causing this and nothing more sinister.  Please let us know how it goes.

    Martha

    Hi, Martha:
    There was indeed,

    Hi, Martha:

    There was indeed, a small hole in the middle of the previous radiation site (Jan., 2013).  I'd had lose stool since treatment, too, and treating the area with TLC so it wouldn't bleed.  I had the colonoscopy on 2/24/16 and haven't experienced any bleeding since.  I was informed by phone that the 3 biopsies that were done were "nothing to worry about".  I haven't had any bleeding since the exploratory colonoscopy and finally the stool is back to looking "normal" not lose.  Again, my doctor predicted my problem bleeding was "hemorrhoids" but that was not my problem.  (I was told my problem was "hemorrhoids" back in 2012 when it turned out to be anal cancer.  I see my surgeon in a few months, my written reports read "no problems" and his his nurse said "no problems".  I guess the radiation just burned a hole a little bit deep?

  • mp327
    mp327 Member Posts: 4,440 Member
    #5
    jbug2 said:

    Hi, Martha:
    There was indeed,

    Hi, Martha:

    There was indeed, a small hole in the middle of the previous radiation site (Jan., 2013).  I'd had lose stool since treatment, too, and treating the area with TLC so it wouldn't bleed.  I had the colonoscopy on 2/24/16 and haven't experienced any bleeding since.  I was informed by phone that the 3 biopsies that were done were "nothing to worry about".  I haven't had any bleeding since the exploratory colonoscopy and finally the stool is back to looking "normal" not lose.  Again, my doctor predicted my problem bleeding was "hemorrhoids" but that was not my problem.  (I was told my problem was "hemorrhoids" back in 2012 when it turned out to be anal cancer.  I see my surgeon in a few months, my written reports read "no problems" and his his nurse said "no problems".  I guess the radiation just burned a hole a little bit deep?

    jbug2

    Thanks for the update.  I'm glad all the news was good and there was no evidence of recurrence.  I can understand how there could be a hole in the treated area--as we know, radiation can cause a lot of damage.  I hope it will heal--it sounds like perhaps it already has, since you report no more bleeding and normal looking stools.  This sounds like real improvement to me.  Try to avoid getting constipation--hard stools can wreck havoc on the area.  Lots of water and a stool softener, if needed, can help.  I hope you have this all behind you now and I send best wishes for smooth sailing from here on!

    Martha

  • Ouch_Ouch_Ouch
    Ouch_Ouch_Ouch Member Posts: 508 Member
    #6
    jbug2 said:

    Hi, Martha:
    There was indeed,

    Hi, Martha:

    There was indeed, a small hole in the middle of the previous radiation site (Jan., 2013).  I'd had lose stool since treatment, too, and treating the area with TLC so it wouldn't bleed.  I had the colonoscopy on 2/24/16 and haven't experienced any bleeding since.  I was informed by phone that the 3 biopsies that were done were "nothing to worry about".  I haven't had any bleeding since the exploratory colonoscopy and finally the stool is back to looking "normal" not lose.  Again, my doctor predicted my problem bleeding was "hemorrhoids" but that was not my problem.  (I was told my problem was "hemorrhoids" back in 2012 when it turned out to be anal cancer.  I see my surgeon in a few months, my written reports read "no problems" and his his nurse said "no problems".  I guess the radiation just burned a hole a little bit deep?

    Telangiectasias.

    I just read the PDF from this thread: http://csn.cancer.org/node/298713. One of the post-radiation problems is the development of telangiectasias (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telangiectasia), which I know I have from a rear bumper exam when the radiation oncologist pointed them out to his RN. The PDF discusses bleeding from them, which makes perfect sense. I have some occasional light bleeding that could well be from the "tellys".

    Telangiectasia sounds something like: tell-lan-ject-TAY-sia.

  • Ouch_Ouch_Ouch
    Ouch_Ouch_Ouch Member Posts: 508 Member
    #7
    Ouch_Ouch_Ouch said:

    Telangiectasias.

    I just read the PDF from this thread: http://csn.cancer.org/node/298713. One of the post-radiation problems is the development of telangiectasias (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telangiectasia), which I know I have from a rear bumper exam when the radiation oncologist pointed them out to his RN. The PDF discusses bleeding from them, which makes perfect sense. I have some occasional light bleeding that could well be from the "tellys".

    Telangiectasia sounds something like: tell-lan-ject-TAY-sia.

    PS:

    I forgot about this thread: http://csn.cancer.org/node/298471

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