Why are people compelled to write about their religious beliefs in the specific cancer forums?

RE

nasher said:

yes lots of beliefs here
Personaly I am part of the Wicca Religion

And there are a few others of my faith on this board that i know of.

Most of the time we just sit back quietly and let people pray to there own beliefs.

I agree i do not like to see HEAVLY religious posts but I can always skip that section.

In my religion we do not normaly openly post scripture or the like.

I dont mind when someone prays for me to whatever god/godess/or group of, I just dont want to see something like John 84:82 with it quoated.

Not trying to single anyone out or such but in my life it seems most Christains seem to believe that everyone else is also of there religion so the quote is helpfull.

personaly one of my friends with Lupus is a ministers wife and knows we are Wicca. She prays for us and we pray for her and we have lots of discussions.

alot of us just dont want to get hate mail so we dont speek up when we know we are in a heavy christian area.

~Welcome Nasher~
Hello Nahser, glad you posted though I am not of your faith I do feel you have every right to be of that faith. I too hope you will join in the discussions here as we all can learn from each other. My best to you!

RE

PhillieG

bluerose said:

Well I welcome you Nasher
Truthfully I wouldn't know the difference between a Presbyterian and a Martian as far as personal beliefs are concerned and that doesn't bother me. Life is about diversity but one thing we all have in common on this site is cancer. It's hard to hold back on here no matter what beliefs one holds if in the past they feel that that has helped them, then they simply want to share what helps so others can benefit. That's a good thing.

I agree though that when it gets too specifically more about recruiting into one's own beliefs then this isn't the place for it. I have shared spiritual moments in my life as it's worth it to hope it helps others but I don't preach any of it, just what worked for me.

Welcome to the site Nasher and I think if we all follow CSN rules and stick mainly to the topic, with off moments for the sake of variety within reason, we will all have continued fabulous connections on this site.

All the best.

Blessings,
Bluerose

I'm not positive
but I think I Martian was a follower of Martian Luther who broke away from the Church a long time ago...
;-)
"Martin Luther (10 November 1483 – 18 February 1546) was a German priest and professor of theology who initiated the Protestant Reformation. Strongly disputing the claim that freedom from God's punishment of sin could be purchased with money *, he confronted indulgence salesman Johann Tetzel with his Ninety-Five Theses in 1517. His refusal to retract all of his writings at the demand of Pope Leo X in 1520 and the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V at the Diet of Worms in 1521 resulted in his excommunication by the pope and condemnation as an outlaw by the emperor."
* This concept is still alive today in the form of the TV preacher.
Just my observation/opinion, not a condemnation of the practice.

I love when we have dialog about beliefs. It can be very informative and interesting at times. I've found that when people can not (or will not) entertain the thought that there are other faiths that are just as valid as what they believe that we run into problems. I agree with you BlueRose, when it goes from sharing an experience to "recruiting" that seems to be when the problems start.

Welcome Nasher
I hope you have a Happy Winter Solstice

bluerose

PhillieG said:

I'm not positive
but I think I Martian was a follower of Martian Luther who broke away from the Church a long time ago...
;-)
"Martin Luther (10 November 1483 – 18 February 1546) was a German priest and professor of theology who initiated the Protestant Reformation. Strongly disputing the claim that freedom from God's punishment of sin could be purchased with money *, he confronted indulgence salesman Johann Tetzel with his Ninety-Five Theses in 1517. His refusal to retract all of his writings at the demand of Pope Leo X in 1520 and the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V at the Diet of Worms in 1521 resulted in his excommunication by the pope and condemnation as an outlaw by the emperor."
* This concept is still alive today in the form of the TV preacher.
Just my observation/opinion, not a condemnation of the practice.

I love when we have dialog about beliefs. It can be very informative and interesting at times. I've found that when people can not (or will not) entertain the thought that there are other faiths that are just as valid as what they believe that we run into problems. I agree with you BlueRose, when it goes from sharing an experience to "recruiting" that seems to be when the problems start.

Welcome Nasher
I hope you have a Happy Winter Solstice

Hmmm Phil
Was that a Martian joke? lol. Wouldn't want to upset any Martians on these boards you know. LOL. Sorry couldn't resist.

Have a Happy Holiday my friend.

Blessings,
Bluerose

John23

nasher said:

yes lots of beliefs here
Personaly I am part of the Wicca Religion

And there are a few others of my faith on this board that i know of.

Most of the time we just sit back quietly and let people pray to there own beliefs.

I agree i do not like to see HEAVLY religious posts but I can always skip that section.

In my religion we do not normaly openly post scripture or the like.

I dont mind when someone prays for me to whatever god/godess/or group of, I just dont want to see something like John 84:82 with it quoated.

Not trying to single anyone out or such but in my life it seems most Christains seem to believe that everyone else is also of there religion so the quote is helpfull.

personaly one of my friends with Lupus is a ministers wife and knows we are Wicca. She prays for us and we pray for her and we have lots of discussions.

alot of us just dont want to get hate mail so we dont speek up when we know we are in a heavy christian area.

Nasher, you do something to me!
Nasher, you do something to me!


(Phil.... In Bb please?)

You do something to me,
something that simply mystifies me.
Tell me, why should it be
you have the power to hypnotize me?
Let me live 'neath your spell,
Do do that voodoo
that you do so well.
For you do something to me

Composer: Cole Albert Porter (June 9, 1891 – October 15, 1964)


Welcome to the board.

John

PhillieG

imagineit2010 said:

UMMM, sorry Joe but you may
UMMM, sorry Joe but you may be mistaken. Greta did say proselytising is prohibited but she did NOT specify that what was posted WAS Proselytising. If she did then she is incorrect. There is a difference between proselytizing and preaching. Proselytizing involves coersion or force or threats in an attempt to convert someone to anothers belief or to change their opinion. Simple preaching DOES NOT. Proselytizing also shows up in the subject of treatment choices. Many people STRONGLY advocate conventional therapies noting how people they know have died because they didn't do one thing or another. People advocating alternative therapies are sometimes chastised or ridiculed with accusations that there is no solid proof of alternative treatment efficacy and to try them is foolish. Much like agnostics sometimes ridicule believers. I don't see anyone getting flagged for using scare tactics to advocate chemo and radiation but it happens. Why is it when it involves health and medicine it's advise but religion it's preaching?
This is a support forum and everyone will not be pleased all the time. We will all do better if we just say what we think or believe in our own post without confronting someone elses post.( unless the post is in the form of a question)
Joe, I have a very good imagination and I can imagine that bickering and confrontational replies are far more disstressing to people than a religious post. Can YOU imagine that the majority of people do NOT share your animosity toward religion and while they may skip over and just not read a religious post it doesn't actually SCARE them away. Are people sending you or Phil PMs saying different??? Has anyone personaly told you they don't come on here because of an occassional religious post? I have heard people say they stay off because of the arguing and fighting that follows a religious post. Who's fault is that? Also, I hardly call one out of every twenty or thirty posts a STRONG religious presence.
I personaly think Phil couldn't be further from "spot on" but that's just my opinion. The controversy seems clear to me too, some people are confrontational when they see something they don't agree with and want to tell other people what to do and not to do.
Best wishes....... Heathen....LOL
Chris

Chris
You are mistaken. I have plenty of emails that support all that I have done with the exception of one from you back in December. I forget which of your multiple named personalties (but still the same of guy we love) it was from. Maybe it was fugetaboutit2010?
I also think you are wrong with the amount of people who do not wish to be preached at. Even those who are Christians do not care for your tactics and question your motives.

Are you proselytizing? You seem to be trying to split hairs or to guess how many angels can fit on the head of a pin but the overall view on here is that we really do not wish to hear you yapping about this. It helps no one except maybe you and your ilk.

I'm glad you admit that you have a very good imagination, that is one point we ALL can agree on.

donnare

I haven't posted for awhile,
I haven't posted for awhile, but check in from time to time. I often tell people I will keep them in my prayers, as well as tell them I'll be sending good thoughts, vibes, etc. their way. Being of Italian descent, I was raised Catholic, but over the years have found that I am much more a spiritual person than a religious person. I think I want to believe, more than I actually absolutely believe, but I haven't given up just yet.

I am open to all viewpoints, and love to learn about different beliefs, and cannot -- refuse to -- believe that if there truly is a God, Higher Power, etc., that there is only one path to him/her, etc. My husband was raised Lutheran, his extended family was Episcopalian and Mormon, and he gave up on organized religion years ago. He is more of a spiritual person also. We have Jewish, Muslim, Prysbeterian, Hindu and Buddhist friends. They are all praying for him in their own ways, according to their own beliefs, and I welcome anything good sent his way, and to our family. I do believe that all these good people, putting their best intentions forward to wish my husband and family well are having a positive effect, and I believe that if there is a God he/she is listening to all of us united in goodness, love, and with tolerance and respect for each other. I have also been practicing yoga and meditation for many, many years, and was first introduced to yoga and meditation by a very progressive Catholic priest.

I recently returned to mass, and was put off by a couple of "fanatics" that I personally feel do more to turn people off than to inspire them. I'm sure their intention was to "help" me, but they made me uncomfortable and I haven't returned yet. It reminds me of Ghandi's quote "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." I don't want to offend anyone, but this quote often resonates with me.

Peace to you all.

bluerose

donnare said:

I haven't posted for awhile,
I haven't posted for awhile, but check in from time to time. I often tell people I will keep them in my prayers, as well as tell them I'll be sending good thoughts, vibes, etc. their way. Being of Italian descent, I was raised Catholic, but over the years have found that I am much more a spiritual person than a religious person. I think I want to believe, more than I actually absolutely believe, but I haven't given up just yet.

I am open to all viewpoints, and love to learn about different beliefs, and cannot -- refuse to -- believe that if there truly is a God, Higher Power, etc., that there is only one path to him/her, etc. My husband was raised Lutheran, his extended family was Episcopalian and Mormon, and he gave up on organized religion years ago. He is more of a spiritual person also. We have Jewish, Muslim, Prysbeterian, Hindu and Buddhist friends. They are all praying for him in their own ways, according to their own beliefs, and I welcome anything good sent his way, and to our family. I do believe that all these good people, putting their best intentions forward to wish my husband and family well are having a positive effect, and I believe that if there is a God he/she is listening to all of us united in goodness, love, and with tolerance and respect for each other. I have also been practicing yoga and meditation for many, many years, and was first introduced to yoga and meditation by a very progressive Catholic priest.

I recently returned to mass, and was put off by a couple of "fanatics" that I personally feel do more to turn people off than to inspire them. I'm sure their intention was to "help" me, but they made me uncomfortable and I haven't returned yet. It reminds me of Ghandi's quote "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." I don't want to offend anyone, but this quote often resonates with me.

Peace to you all.

Here here ...
to that quote of Ghandi's. I so agree.

Blessings,

Bluerose

stayingcalm

bluerose said:

Here here ...
to that quote of Ghandi's. I so agree.

Blessings,

Bluerose

And hear, hear, here, too!
One of my favorite Gandhi quotations!
-stayingcalm

mariam_11_09

stayingcalm said:

And hear, hear, here, too!
One of my favorite Gandhi quotations!
-stayingcalm

and here here again!I love
and here here again!

I love that quote as well as - Don't judge a religion by its people!

Buckwirth

imagineit2010 said:

UMMM, sorry Joe but you may
UMMM, sorry Joe but you may be mistaken. Greta did say proselytising is prohibited but she did NOT specify that what was posted WAS Proselytising. If she did then she is incorrect. There is a difference between proselytizing and preaching. Proselytizing involves coersion or force or threats in an attempt to convert someone to anothers belief or to change their opinion. Simple preaching DOES NOT. Proselytizing also shows up in the subject of treatment choices. Many people STRONGLY advocate conventional therapies noting how people they know have died because they didn't do one thing or another. People advocating alternative therapies are sometimes chastised or ridiculed with accusations that there is no solid proof of alternative treatment efficacy and to try them is foolish. Much like agnostics sometimes ridicule believers. I don't see anyone getting flagged for using scare tactics to advocate chemo and radiation but it happens. Why is it when it involves health and medicine it's advise but religion it's preaching?
This is a support forum and everyone will not be pleased all the time. We will all do better if we just say what we think or believe in our own post without confronting someone elses post.( unless the post is in the form of a question)
Joe, I have a very good imagination and I can imagine that bickering and confrontational replies are far more disstressing to people than a religious post. Can YOU imagine that the majority of people do NOT share your animosity toward religion and while they may skip over and just not read a religious post it doesn't actually SCARE them away. Are people sending you or Phil PMs saying different??? Has anyone personaly told you they don't come on here because of an occassional religious post? I have heard people say they stay off because of the arguing and fighting that follows a religious post. Who's fault is that? Also, I hardly call one out of every twenty or thirty posts a STRONG religious presence.
I personaly think Phil couldn't be further from "spot on" but that's just my opinion. The controversy seems clear to me too, some people are confrontational when they see something they don't agree with and want to tell other people what to do and not to do.
Best wishes....... Heathen....LOL
Chris

Proselytizing is not by definition coercive
Jumping in on an old thread, but Chris was wrong on this one:

Mark 8:34
Whosoever will come after me—It seems that Christ formed, on the proselytism of the Jews, the principal qualities which he required in the proselytes of his covenant.
The first condition of proselytism among the Jews was, that he that came to embrace their religion should come voluntarily, and that neither force nor influence should be employed in this business. This is also the first condition required by Jesus Christ, and which he considers as the foundation of all the rest:—If a man be willing to come after me.

The board also forbids giving medical advice:
No User shall advise other Users about medical care or attempt to influence their medical care decisions. Members are encouraged to share their own medical experiences, but medical advice to others is strictly prohibited, regardless of a Member's medical education, credentials, or experience. The purpose of the Cancer Survivors Network is a peer to peer support service

Lastly, all of this is at the interpretation of ACS and the admin's, not some user who believes they know how a thing should be:
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By being here and using this space we agree to abide by these rules. It is not denying you freedom of speech, nor impinging on your rights in any other way as it is not a .gov site.

If you do not like the rules go to another sandbox.

soccerfreaks

Buckwirth said:

Proselytizing is not by definition coercive
Jumping in on an old thread, but Chris was wrong on this one:

Mark 8:34
Whosoever will come after me—It seems that Christ formed, on the proselytism of the Jews, the principal qualities which he required in the proselytes of his covenant.
The first condition of proselytism among the Jews was, that he that came to embrace their religion should come voluntarily, and that neither force nor influence should be employed in this business. This is also the first condition required by Jesus Christ, and which he considers as the foundation of all the rest:—If a man be willing to come after me.

The board also forbids giving medical advice:
No User shall advise other Users about medical care or attempt to influence their medical care decisions. Members are encouraged to share their own medical experiences, but medical advice to others is strictly prohibited, regardless of a Member's medical education, credentials, or experience. The purpose of the Cancer Survivors Network is a peer to peer support service

Lastly, all of this is at the interpretation of ACS and the admin's, not some user who believes they know how a thing should be:
Removal of content; right but not obligation to monitor content: ACS shall have the right, exercisable in its sole and absolute discretion, but not the obligation, to refuse to post or to delete any information or data which ACS becomes aware of which ACS determines, in its sole and absolute discretion, to be offensive, racist, lewd, profane, obscene, pornographic, hateful, rude, abusive, disruptive, defamatory or otherwise in violation of this Usage Agreement.

By being here and using this space we agree to abide by these rules. It is not denying you freedom of speech, nor impinging on your rights in any other way as it is not a .gov site.

If you do not like the rules go to another sandbox.

What he said
Well said, Buck.

Take care,

Joe

7hallbergs

PhillieG said:

Holy Holy!
I didn't realize that there was that much diversity within the Christian faith. But I would think that the bottom line is that they all believe that Christ was the Son of God (hence the word Christian). But why all of the diversity I wonder? I've heard similar stories on here about people being told by "friends" that they are going to hell because they belong to the wrong church or that they are not praying hard enough and that's why they either have cancer or are going to hell.
I find that so weird. More frightening really that people truly believe that someone else is of the "wrong faith" and therefore is going to hell or eternal damnation.
Thanks for the post Graci
-p

Differences within the Christian faiths
"I didn't realize that there was that much diversity within the Christian faith. But I would think that the bottom line is that they all believe that Christ was the Son of God (hence the word Christian). But why all of the diversity I wonder?"

Hope I can answer that, apologize in advance for any grammatical errors:

Phil, I go to a lutheran church, and from what I've read about other sects and my own, there are some key differences within denominations, even within the lutheran churches. For example, many christian denominations believe that Christ died for the sins of all, but that you still need to do good deeds for salvation; that only older children should be baptized, that you need to do other certain things to "be reborn";that evolution and intelligent design can comingle; that the bible's teachings are old fashioned and should get with the times, and the list goes on. (ps. ANY church that tells you that you did something to deserve your cancer is false-Run in the other direction!) I have heard our pastor stress during studies that when the bible mentions the holy Christian church, it is not referring to a building (look, that one there! THATS the one!) or denomination of the religion, it is referring to all believers-there are believers of Christ in all of the denominations.

PhillieG

7hallbergs said:

Differences within the Christian faiths
"I didn't realize that there was that much diversity within the Christian faith. But I would think that the bottom line is that they all believe that Christ was the Son of God (hence the word Christian). But why all of the diversity I wonder?"

Hope I can answer that, apologize in advance for any grammatical errors:

Phil, I go to a lutheran church, and from what I've read about other sects and my own, there are some key differences within denominations, even within the lutheran churches. For example, many christian denominations believe that Christ died for the sins of all, but that you still need to do good deeds for salvation; that only older children should be baptized, that you need to do other certain things to "be reborn";that evolution and intelligent design can comingle; that the bible's teachings are old fashioned and should get with the times, and the list goes on. (ps. ANY church that tells you that you did something to deserve your cancer is false-Run in the other direction!) I have heard our pastor stress during studies that when the bible mentions the holy Christian church, it is not referring to a building (look, that one there! THATS the one!) or denomination of the religion, it is referring to all believers-there are believers of Christ in all of the denominations.

Fighting Cancer Without God Would Be Terrible
Hi 7hallbergs,
I started this thread in response to the "Fighting Cancer Without God Would Be Terrible" post that was made by Bruins1971 (and all of his alias's/incarnations since then). It was more of a why talk plumbing in an automobile store. Yes, it's kind of related but if there is a separate automobile section, why not go there to talk about automobiles. Some people feel that everyone has the same belief system as they do. That is not true and it's rather absurd to think that.

I've noticed how much diversity there is in religion, especially in Christianity. I feel that if everyone practiced the "Golden Rule" that the world would be a better place. It's as simple as that. One can not force their belief on another yet it's been done over and over and over again with no success. I have no idea why mankind (an oxymoron if I ever heard one) is compelled to do that.

One topic that is too often overlooked on this forum is that there are other belief systems that have nothing to do with Christ and they are just as valid as any other. The topic comes up on occasion, it's always refreshing I find.
;-)

AussieMaddie

John23 said:

Nasher, you do something to me!
Nasher, you do something to me!


(Phil.... In Bb please?)

You do something to me,
something that simply mystifies me.
Tell me, why should it be
you have the power to hypnotize me?
Let me live 'neath your spell,
Do do that voodoo
that you do so well.
For you do something to me

Composer: Cole Albert Porter (June 9, 1891 – October 15, 1964)


Welcome to the board.

John

John23 posted:
'Nasher, you do something to me"
......................................

Hehehe
Btw, Nasha, glad to see you here

AussieMaddie

donnare said:

I haven't posted for awhile,
I haven't posted for awhile, but check in from time to time. I often tell people I will keep them in my prayers, as well as tell them I'll be sending good thoughts, vibes, etc. their way. Being of Italian descent, I was raised Catholic, but over the years have found that I am much more a spiritual person than a religious person. I think I want to believe, more than I actually absolutely believe, but I haven't given up just yet.

I am open to all viewpoints, and love to learn about different beliefs, and cannot -- refuse to -- believe that if there truly is a God, Higher Power, etc., that there is only one path to him/her, etc. My husband was raised Lutheran, his extended family was Episcopalian and Mormon, and he gave up on organized religion years ago. He is more of a spiritual person also. We have Jewish, Muslim, Prysbeterian, Hindu and Buddhist friends. They are all praying for him in their own ways, according to their own beliefs, and I welcome anything good sent his way, and to our family. I do believe that all these good people, putting their best intentions forward to wish my husband and family well are having a positive effect, and I believe that if there is a God he/she is listening to all of us united in goodness, love, and with tolerance and respect for each other. I have also been practicing yoga and meditation for many, many years, and was first introduced to yoga and meditation by a very progressive Catholic priest.

I recently returned to mass, and was put off by a couple of "fanatics" that I personally feel do more to turn people off than to inspire them. I'm sure their intention was to "help" me, but they made me uncomfortable and I haven't returned yet. It reminds me of Ghandi's quote "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." I don't want to offend anyone, but this quote often resonates with me.

Peace to you all.

Donnare said:
"...over the years have found that I am much more a spiritual person than a religious person"
.............................................

Me too, Donnare.
It happened a long time before I even realized that it had.
Nice to meet you.
AussieMaddie

AussieMaddie

donnare said:

I haven't posted for awhile,
I haven't posted for awhile, but check in from time to time. I often tell people I will keep them in my prayers, as well as tell them I'll be sending good thoughts, vibes, etc. their way. Being of Italian descent, I was raised Catholic, but over the years have found that I am much more a spiritual person than a religious person. I think I want to believe, more than I actually absolutely believe, but I haven't given up just yet.

I am open to all viewpoints, and love to learn about different beliefs, and cannot -- refuse to -- believe that if there truly is a God, Higher Power, etc., that there is only one path to him/her, etc. My husband was raised Lutheran, his extended family was Episcopalian and Mormon, and he gave up on organized religion years ago. He is more of a spiritual person also. We have Jewish, Muslim, Prysbeterian, Hindu and Buddhist friends. They are all praying for him in their own ways, according to their own beliefs, and I welcome anything good sent his way, and to our family. I do believe that all these good people, putting their best intentions forward to wish my husband and family well are having a positive effect, and I believe that if there is a God he/she is listening to all of us united in goodness, love, and with tolerance and respect for each other. I have also been practicing yoga and meditation for many, many years, and was first introduced to yoga and meditation by a very progressive Catholic priest.

I recently returned to mass, and was put off by a couple of "fanatics" that I personally feel do more to turn people off than to inspire them. I'm sure their intention was to "help" me, but they made me uncomfortable and I haven't returned yet. It reminds me of Ghandi's quote "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." I don't want to offend anyone, but this quote often resonates with me.

Peace to you all.

Oops - how to delete this
[Can't find a 'Delete this message' link to delete what was a duplicate post]

bluerose

PhillieG said:

Huh?

COMPLAIN?

I prefer to call it bringing to the attention of.....but I won't complain about the word complain ;-)

I really do not think that this forum would exist without the comment over a year ago that made a reference that without believing in "HIM (Jesus Christ)" that all we deserve is hell. This was posted in the main comment section of a particular cancer type and not in a "religion or faith" section since they did not have them at the time. That comment really does not say much about "faith" in my opinion, it's more of an jab at non-believers in Jesus. And as far as saying we deserve hell, well that speaks for itself. It's the most un-christian comment I've ever heard without a doubt.

So I am very glad that they did start this forum because a person's faith is very important to them and I personally find it very interesting to hear most of the comments made here. Especially by those who are NOT christian. You know I enjoy the writings of JC (the other JC- Joseph Campbell) and his comparisons between the beliefs of different faiths. Different faiths have a lot more in common that most people would think.

But the point of my post was that there is a place for the Bible, Koran, etc quotes and it is not in the middle of the specific cancer types.
You know I enjoy your posts Hondo. I hope you are doing well.
-phil

Hey Phil?
How did you make your font so big here? lol. Sure could have used that function a few times in the past. lol. Just wondering.

Signed
Technically challenged - Bluerose

bluerose

AussieMaddie said:

Donnare said:
"...over the years have found that I am much more a spiritual person than a religious person"
.............................................

Me too, Donnare.
It happened a long time before I even realized that it had.
Nice to meet you.
AussieMaddie

To all on this board
Everytime I read a post on subjects surrounding spirituality or religion the same thought comes into my mind each and every time. I wish all could experience a healing as I did years ago. With that unexpected healing there came this unbelievable sense of KNOWING, a KNOWING like I had never experienced before with anything else. That kind of KNOWING can only have one source and you realize that while it is happening to you - trust me.

During the healing that I had I 'heard things' that weren't really audible but they were in my head - sort of like what you would think it's like when people say they could sense someone else's thoughts. The 'thoughts' I heard were so powerful that they were not a question but a given and I just KNEW that.

There aren't enough words to try to describe all that I experienced during this healing I had but suffice is to say that if everyone could experience what I did that would be the end of questioning the existance of a God. I was spiritual before this happened, in a very passive way, and certainly did not have the idea of a healing in my mind whatsoever, was just praying my brains out that I wouldn't be taken by the cancer. Guess my prayers got through. It was so shocking when I first felt that line of heat enter me but I was never afraid, why would that be? So man questions I had were all put to rest in only a few brief quiet moments.

I wish this for all on this board.

Blessings,

Bluerose

Hondo

bluerose said:

To all on this board
Everytime I read a post on subjects surrounding spirituality or religion the same thought comes into my mind each and every time. I wish all could experience a healing as I did years ago. With that unexpected healing there came this unbelievable sense of KNOWING, a KNOWING like I had never experienced before with anything else. That kind of KNOWING can only have one source and you realize that while it is happening to you - trust me.

During the healing that I had I 'heard things' that weren't really audible but they were in my head - sort of like what you would think it's like when people say they could sense someone else's thoughts. The 'thoughts' I heard were so powerful that they were not a question but a given and I just KNEW that.

There aren't enough words to try to describe all that I experienced during this healing I had but suffice is to say that if everyone could experience what I did that would be the end of questioning the existance of a God. I was spiritual before this happened, in a very passive way, and certainly did not have the idea of a healing in my mind whatsoever, was just praying my brains out that I wouldn't be taken by the cancer. Guess my prayers got through. It was so shocking when I first felt that line of heat enter me but I was never afraid, why would that be? So man questions I had were all put to rest in only a few brief quiet moments.

I wish this for all on this board.

Blessings,

Bluerose

Hi Bluerose

Faith can move a mountain

Hondo

PhillieG

bluerose said:

To all on this board
Everytime I read a post on subjects surrounding spirituality or religion the same thought comes into my mind each and every time. I wish all could experience a healing as I did years ago. With that unexpected healing there came this unbelievable sense of KNOWING, a KNOWING like I had never experienced before with anything else. That kind of KNOWING can only have one source and you realize that while it is happening to you - trust me.

During the healing that I had I 'heard things' that weren't really audible but they were in my head - sort of like what you would think it's like when people say they could sense someone else's thoughts. The 'thoughts' I heard were so powerful that they were not a question but a given and I just KNEW that.

There aren't enough words to try to describe all that I experienced during this healing I had but suffice is to say that if everyone could experience what I did that would be the end of questioning the existance of a God. I was spiritual before this happened, in a very passive way, and certainly did not have the idea of a healing in my mind whatsoever, was just praying my brains out that I wouldn't be taken by the cancer. Guess my prayers got through. It was so shocking when I first felt that line of heat enter me but I was never afraid, why would that be? So man questions I had were all put to rest in only a few brief quiet moments.

I wish this for all on this board.

Blessings,

Bluerose

HI Bluerose
That experience must have given you a great sense of peace.
That's wonderful.
-phil