"This is your Haitian divorce"

PhillieG

Marcia527 said:

Phil, Phil, Phil
Ok, I'll explain my statement. I do vote. I just don't get into the drag-down-dirty arguments. Arguments raise the blood pressure and doesn't do much else. I'm not much of a debater anyway. Have you noticed how short my posts are. :>)

I read John Adams biography and Thomas Jefferson's biography. It's interesting to see how two people saw the same thing so differently. And how things haven't changed.

Thank you, thank you, thank you
I figured you did vote but that comment threw me a bit.
I don't care for arguments, I just wish everyone would agree with me!
;-)

Marcia527

PhillieG said:

Thank you, thank you, thank you
I figured you did vote but that comment threw me a bit.
I don't care for arguments, I just wish everyone would agree with me!
;-)

A bit of trivia: John Adams
A bit of trivia: John Adams and Thomas Jefferson both died on July 4 1826.
The SAME day!

PhillieG

Marcia527 said:

A bit of trivia: John Adams
A bit of trivia: John Adams and Thomas Jefferson both died on July 4 1826.
The SAME day!

True
I loved the HBO produced series on John Adams. Did you happen to catch it?

Marcia527

PhillieG said:

True
I loved the HBO produced series on John Adams. Did you happen to catch it?

Don't think I saw it. We
Don't think I saw it. We don't have cable. We haven't watched tv for two years. We do have Netflix and can stream movies and tv shows with no commercials. Maybe it's on there. I'll have to check. We do have the DVD of Ben Franklin and I read his autobiography. You can download it free at gutenberg.org. He was quite a character.

PhillieG

Marcia527 said:

Don't think I saw it. We
Don't think I saw it. We don't have cable. We haven't watched tv for two years. We do have Netflix and can stream movies and tv shows with no commercials. Maybe it's on there. I'll have to check. We do have the DVD of Ben Franklin and I read his autobiography. You can download it free at gutenberg.org. He was quite a character.

Netflix
I'm sure it's on there. It's a must see if you dig history. It was very well done.
Thanks for the link, I will check out that site
-p

DennisR

Hondo said:

Believe it or Not


There is a lot that Christians and Muslims have in common as they are both from the same seed. The ones who Love, Love with all there heart, and the ones who hate, hate with no compassion.

You are correct in saying that we are all judge by the actions of a few.


Take care and keep posting

Seems like even the best
Seems like even the best laid intentions often go awry when people of any faith convince themselves that God is on THEIR side and helping them in THEIR endeavors....as opposed to making sure that they are on GOD'S side.....and helping Him in HIS.

Hondo

You are so right Dennis
More wars and life’s have been lost in the name of religion then all the wars in our world for the passed 100 years. All because some people are convicted that there way is the right way and all other should follow what they believe. I am glad that the Jesus I follow is not like this, He told me to love and not hate even when someone does you harm love them back.

A few years ago there was a mad man who went into an Amish school and killed 6 beautiful young ladies before killing himself; no one ever knew the reason why.

I love the way they showed what true christianly really is.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_school_shooting

Amish response with forgiveness

On the day of the shooting, a grandfather of one of the murdered Amish girls was heard warning some young relatives not to hate the killer, saying, "We must not think evil of this man.

Amish community members visited and comforted Roberts' widow, parents, and parents-in-law. One Amish man held Roberts' sobbing father in his arms, reportedly for as long as an hour, to comfort him

There would be no wars or hate if all the world could learn to just love each other for who they are and not for what we want them to be.

Marcia527

Hondo said:

You are so right Dennis
More wars and life’s have been lost in the name of religion then all the wars in our world for the passed 100 years. All because some people are convicted that there way is the right way and all other should follow what they believe. I am glad that the Jesus I follow is not like this, He told me to love and not hate even when someone does you harm love them back.

A few years ago there was a mad man who went into an Amish school and killed 6 beautiful young ladies before killing himself; no one ever knew the reason why.

I love the way they showed what true christianly really is.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_school_shooting

Amish response with forgiveness

On the day of the shooting, a grandfather of one of the murdered Amish girls was heard warning some young relatives not to hate the killer, saying, "We must not think evil of this man.

Amish community members visited and comforted Roberts' widow, parents, and parents-in-law. One Amish man held Roberts' sobbing father in his arms, reportedly for as long as an hour, to comfort him

There would be no wars or hate if all the world could learn to just love each other for who they are and not for what we want them to be.

I had some ancestors who
I had some ancestors who were Amish. My uncle told me they were Pennsylvania dutch. Which is really German. I often wondered why they were called this until I came across an article that stated people from Germany who came to the US and settled in Pennsylvania but didn't speak English well were misunderstood with their thick accents and people here thought they said Pennsylvania dutch but were really saying "Pennsylvania deutsch". Deutsch means German.

mariam_11_09

DennisR said:

Seems like even the best
Seems like even the best laid intentions often go awry when people of any faith convince themselves that God is on THEIR side and helping them in THEIR endeavors....as opposed to making sure that they are on GOD'S side.....and helping Him in HIS.

The question to perhaps ask

The question to perhaps ask these people is how do they tell the difference between their own egoic will and Holy Will (God's Will)?

There is truth in what you say about making sure we are on God's side, it involves the alignment of our own will with Holy Will (God's will). Not an easy task when we see God as something outside of ourselves, seperate from us.

DennisR

mariam_11_09 said:

The question to perhaps ask

The question to perhaps ask these people is how do they tell the difference between their own egoic will and Holy Will (God's Will)?

There is truth in what you say about making sure we are on God's side, it involves the alignment of our own will with Holy Will (God's will). Not an easy task when we see God as something outside of ourselves, seperate from us.

well...it's difficult to
well...it's difficult to always be sure exactly which side we're on sometimes, but it's not a bad idea to ponder as to whose will we're really pursuing occasionally. It's an individual and personal thing though, not much point in doing someone else's inventory, is there?

Hondo

Marcia527 said:

I had some ancestors who
I had some ancestors who were Amish. My uncle told me they were Pennsylvania dutch. Which is really German. I often wondered why they were called this until I came across an article that stated people from Germany who came to the US and settled in Pennsylvania but didn't speak English well were misunderstood with their thick accents and people here thought they said Pennsylvania dutch but were really saying "Pennsylvania deutsch". Deutsch means German.

Ancestors
I would love to visit and maybe live with them for a while to learn more about them. As I read the story all I could think was what Jesus was saying while hanging on the Cross; Father forgive them for they know not what they do. What pure and true Love He had for those who were killing Him.