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  • Texas_wedge
    Texas_wedge Member Posts: 2,798
    srbelle1 said:

    Todd:
    i am reasonably new to

    Todd:

    i am reasonably new to this board and am here because my husband has kidney cancer.

    if it does not offend you, may I ask your age? The more I learn about this disease, the more I realize how past habits impact and have made some changes in my own lifestyle.

    drinking too much after having a stage 3 diagnosis sounds odd to me; without really dating myself, I will say that we are part of the "me" generation, if it feels good, do it. You probably get my drift. 

    My husband has struggles with cigarettes and I finally blew up, let all of his family and friends know so that he understood how outraged we are in fighting for him while he selfishly smoked, KNOWING what effect smoking has on kidney cancer.

    i mean you no disrespect but why would you drink too much? 

    Sarah

    Poor old Todd!

    Please don't run away and hide now Todd - it's good to have you looking in again.  I stand by what I said, but I didn't envisage you getting such an instant drubbing from all quarters Laughing

    I hope you'll continue to contribute here but I do also sincerely hope that you'll give due thought to the messages you're getting and that, even allowing for our hobby-horses, you'll believe we genuinely have your best interests at heart.

  • angec
    angec Member Posts: 924

    Poor old Todd!

    Please don't run away and hide now Todd - it's good to have you looking in again.  I stand by what I said, but I didn't envisage you getting such an instant drubbing from all quarters Laughing

    I hope you'll continue to contribute here but I do also sincerely hope that you'll give due thought to the messages you're getting and that, even allowing for our hobby-horses, you'll believe we genuinely have your best interests at heart.

    I have to laugh!  Poor old

    I have to laugh!  Poor old Todd!  We love you so much that we are pointing our fingers at you and scolding you to get you in shape!  I cracked up at seeing Trevor's last post above! He is right though, who would have thought that we would all get on the band wagon and get at ya?  HA!

    In all seriousness, I hope all things turn out ok. It is normal to get depressed and worried over your health. Over drinking now and then, i guess it can easily happen. But now that you know you can help yourself a little more, I hope you decide to take to heart what both Neil and Trevor have written!  They don't only suggest a better lifestyle, they surely live by it!  You don't really want to blame yourself if you get worse. You owe it to yourself to treat your body better! ;)

    Keep coming back to the boards Todd, especially when you are down and depressed! I am sure Gary's jokes will give you a good laugh.  Did you read the one with the little leaguers? It had me rolling!  Check it out!

  • foxhd
    foxhd Member Posts: 3,181
    angec said:

    Fox, after reading you

    Fox, after reading you comments about the effects being different for everyone, that is understandable since we are all individuals. But, I was wondering if they use the same amount for everyone or do they give higher doses for some?  Like when our friend Paula went in for her anti pd-1l, or whatever it was. She had a very high dose and it gave her alot of side affects. I know her treatment was different than yours, but you essentially did fine with your treatment, and only quit when it stopped working.  Does everyone get the same amount of IL-2?

     

    In any case Fox, I hope the time goes fast and the doc is wrong! I hope you do not have it worse this time!  I wonder why she said that?  Maybe it will be just the opposite and you will be on your toes sooner! That is my wish for you!  Sending lots of love and good thoughts!

    dosage

    Ange


     

    Posts: 657
    Joined: Jul 2012

    Aug 04, 2013 - 2:56 pm


    I am so glad that you are back Fox and you got a free chemical peel too. Rest up.

    Here's what I found about the IL-2 dosage. It also has a built-in calculator.

    http://reference.medscape.com/drug/interleukin-2-proleukin-aldesleukin-342203

    Metastatic Renal Cell Carcinoma, Metastatic Melanoma

    600,000 International Units/kg (0.037 mg/kg) IV over 15 minutes q 8hr x maximum 14 doses, THEN  9 days of rest, then a maximum of 14 more doses

    Retreatment: evaluate after 4 weeks, advisable only if tumor shrinkage & no retreatment contraindications



     

    , Here is a repost from Alexandra.

  • NanoSecond
    NanoSecond Member Posts: 653

    Poor old Todd!

    Please don't run away and hide now Todd - it's good to have you looking in again.  I stand by what I said, but I didn't envisage you getting such an instant drubbing from all quarters Laughing

    I hope you'll continue to contribute here but I do also sincerely hope that you'll give due thought to the messages you're getting and that, even allowing for our hobby-horses, you'll believe we genuinely have your best interests at heart.

    No offense intended

    Todd,

    I solidly endorse Tex's last sentance.  We all only have your best interests at heart.  It certainly is not anyone's intention to add more stress or cause for further depression.

    However, I was must confess to reading between your lines. I felt that you might just be sharing your latest info so that many of us might offer some additional moral support.  I know you intellectually understand the importance of a healthy diet and exercise (as you said as much).  The only question is how best to do it.

    Regardless, please accept my apology if my post offended you.  I actually can talk about lots of other things that have nothing to do with diet or nutrition.  Just don't get me started about flying.  It's my particular passion (just as motor-sickles are to Ron and Fox, amongst others).  But since starting on Sutent I am now grounded by the FAA - so that is the one topic that depresses me the most.

  • Limelife50
    Limelife50 Member Posts: 476
    foxhd said:

    dosage

    Ange


     

    Posts: 657
    Joined: Jul 2012

    Aug 04, 2013 - 2:56 pm


    I am so glad that you are back Fox and you got a free chemical peel too. Rest up.

    Here's what I found about the IL-2 dosage. It also has a built-in calculator.

    http://reference.medscape.com/drug/interleukin-2-proleukin-aldesleukin-342203

    Metastatic Renal Cell Carcinoma, Metastatic Melanoma

    600,000 International Units/kg (0.037 mg/kg) IV over 15 minutes q 8hr x maximum 14 doses, THEN  9 days of rest, then a maximum of 14 more doses

    Retreatment: evaluate after 4 weeks, advisable only if tumor shrinkage & no retreatment contraindications



     

    , Here is a repost from Alexandra.

    Hey Fox

    Enjoy your ride and good luck hope you are up to toughing out yet another round.

  • todd121
    todd121 Member Posts: 1,448

    No offense intended

    Todd,

    I solidly endorse Tex's last sentance.  We all only have your best interests at heart.  It certainly is not anyone's intention to add more stress or cause for further depression.

    However, I was must confess to reading between your lines. I felt that you might just be sharing your latest info so that many of us might offer some additional moral support.  I know you intellectually understand the importance of a healthy diet and exercise (as you said as much).  The only question is how best to do it.

    Regardless, please accept my apology if my post offended you.  I actually can talk about lots of other things that have nothing to do with diet or nutrition.  Just don't get me started about flying.  It's my particular passion (just as motor-sickles are to Ron and Fox, amongst others).  But since starting on Sutent I am now grounded by the FAA - so that is the one topic that depresses me the most.

    No offense taken

    I just got around to coming back and reading again. Wasn't offended, because I hadn't seen the replies until later. Lol. But still not offended.

    Someone asked my age. I'm 51.

    As far as drinking goes, it's really a pretty occasional thing.

    I know what to do on diet and exercise, and I know it's important, but for whatever reason having trouble doing it regularly. I do it in fits and starts. I get busy at work, forget to shop, or have something going on, run out of food at home, or find myself off somewhere with friends or family and end up eating somewhere the choices aren't the best. It's all excuses, but it's what is happening.

    I live alone. I find it a real challenge shopping and cooking for one person.

    It's absolutely true. If having the cancer possibly come back isn't motivation enough to quit, for example, eating sugar, what would be? I can't answer that. I think eating has been how I've been managing my stress for awhile.

    Thanks to Texas for the advice on the anti-depressants. My onc sent me to see a psychiatrist today about the anxiety, and sure enough he wants to put me on an anti-depressant. I haven't started it yet. He did also advise me to exercise.

    Thanks for the advice everyone. I know you have my best interest in mind. I'm already pretty hard on myself, but I'm just as stubborn as I can be in some areas and this has been a life-long problem for me.

    Todd

     

  • angec
    angec Member Posts: 924
    foxhd said:

    dosage

    Ange


     

    Posts: 657
    Joined: Jul 2012

    Aug 04, 2013 - 2:56 pm


    I am so glad that you are back Fox and you got a free chemical peel too. Rest up.

    Here's what I found about the IL-2 dosage. It also has a built-in calculator.

    http://reference.medscape.com/drug/interleukin-2-proleukin-aldesleukin-342203

    Metastatic Renal Cell Carcinoma, Metastatic Melanoma

    600,000 International Units/kg (0.037 mg/kg) IV over 15 minutes q 8hr x maximum 14 doses, THEN  9 days of rest, then a maximum of 14 more doses

    Retreatment: evaluate after 4 weeks, advisable only if tumor shrinkage & no retreatment contraindications



     

    , Here is a repost from Alexandra.

    Thanks Fox! It sounds like an

    Thanks Fox! It sounds like an awful lot! Wow! No wonder so many reactions!  Overload, but well worth it!  I feel so sory for Alex too. I read she has recently had a recurrence! It stinks!  I hope she gets the treatment she needs sooner than later!  You all are an inspiration to me! I have grown immensely in many ways, just from reading your posts.  Everyone take care and keep living!

     

    Todd.... have you seen the book called "Saving Normal"?  It is interesting...  All my best!

  • Limelife50
    Limelife50 Member Posts: 476
    todd121 said:

    No offense taken

    I just got around to coming back and reading again. Wasn't offended, because I hadn't seen the replies until later. Lol. But still not offended.

    Someone asked my age. I'm 51.

    As far as drinking goes, it's really a pretty occasional thing.

    I know what to do on diet and exercise, and I know it's important, but for whatever reason having trouble doing it regularly. I do it in fits and starts. I get busy at work, forget to shop, or have something going on, run out of food at home, or find myself off somewhere with friends or family and end up eating somewhere the choices aren't the best. It's all excuses, but it's what is happening.

    I live alone. I find it a real challenge shopping and cooking for one person.

    It's absolutely true. If having the cancer possibly come back isn't motivation enough to quit, for example, eating sugar, what would be? I can't answer that. I think eating has been how I've been managing my stress for awhile.

    Thanks to Texas for the advice on the anti-depressants. My onc sent me to see a psychiatrist today about the anxiety, and sure enough he wants to put me on an anti-depressant. I haven't started it yet. He did also advise me to exercise.

    Thanks for the advice everyone. I know you have my best interest in mind. I'm already pretty hard on myself, but I'm just as stubborn as I can be in some areas and this has been a life-long problem for me.

    Todd

     

    Diet

    I buy those 2 pound bags of ready to eat lettuce from Sams Club i also get me eggs ham and turkey and other veggies and then i put it all together to make salads to eat for my lunch during the week.I also bike any where from 50 to 100 miles a week and i still have all of my hair and very little if any grey hair and i am 52  years of age and sorry but  considering the three cancer surgeries i have endured i still look better than most guys my age.Now for the dark side i also just love that Miller Lite beer for which i usually drink maybe anywhere from a 12 pack to at times a case a week and what can i say i am pretty Damm Happy.I think sometimes its all about perspective and how we veiw ourselfs.Hey Todd just a quick question have you ever seen the movie called Shawshank Redemption if so their is a quote Morgan Freeman makes during that movie,well i will let you figure that out.

  • todd121
    todd121 Member Posts: 1,448

    Diet

    I buy those 2 pound bags of ready to eat lettuce from Sams Club i also get me eggs ham and turkey and other veggies and then i put it all together to make salads to eat for my lunch during the week.I also bike any where from 50 to 100 miles a week and i still have all of my hair and very little if any grey hair and i am 52  years of age and sorry but  considering the three cancer surgeries i have endured i still look better than most guys my age.Now for the dark side i also just love that Miller Lite beer for which i usually drink maybe anywhere from a 12 pack to at times a case a week and what can i say i am pretty Damm Happy.I think sometimes its all about perspective and how we veiw ourselfs.Hey Todd just a quick question have you ever seen the movie called Shawshank Redemption if so their is a quote Morgan Freeman makes during that movie,well i will let you figure that out.

    Shawshank Redemption

    I did see the movie. Can't remember the quote.

    With regards to hair...mine's been gone since I was in my early 20's. I saved a heck of a lot of money on shampoo and haircuts. :)

    I have thought about getting a bike. I think that needs to happen soon. I live in a beautiful hilly area and there's a nice place to bike nearby.

    To everybody else that were giving me heck, I've gone on 3 walks in the last 2 days and I joined the gym right next to my office today so it's convenient to stop in for an hour after work a few days a week. My dog really liked the walks. Can exercise work almost immediately? Because I feel better already. We've had gorgeous weather here.

    I decided it was that or anti-depressants. The box of anti-depressants is sitting on my coffee table to remind me to decide what I want to do: take pills, or eat well and exercise.

    Todd

  • Texas_wedge
    Texas_wedge Member Posts: 2,798
    todd121 said:

    Shawshank Redemption

    I did see the movie. Can't remember the quote.

    With regards to hair...mine's been gone since I was in my early 20's. I saved a heck of a lot of money on shampoo and haircuts. :)

    I have thought about getting a bike. I think that needs to happen soon. I live in a beautiful hilly area and there's a nice place to bike nearby.

    To everybody else that were giving me heck, I've gone on 3 walks in the last 2 days and I joined the gym right next to my office today so it's convenient to stop in for an hour after work a few days a week. My dog really liked the walks. Can exercise work almost immediately? Because I feel better already. We've had gorgeous weather here.

    I decided it was that or anti-depressants. The box of anti-depressants is sitting on my coffee table to remind me to decide what I want to do: take pills, or eat well and exercise.

    Todd

    Your redemption.

    Sure can, Todd.  Good for you and good for your dog too! Congratulations on making such a fine start. Stick at it and it becomes its own reward.

  • faithlou
    faithlou Member Posts: 41
    foxhd said:

    Experimental treatments

    Sarah, you are right. I don't think I would be excited about stem cell transplants. Drugs were designed to kill cancer by what is essentially poison or limiting capilllary growth. The concept of using our own immune system is more recent. Although  mega doses still require a watchful eye. I could not have imagined just how sick the IL-2 could make me. Fortunately it is temporary.

    Djinnie, I'm no trailblazer either. Opportunities have been presented to me and I am going with them. I'm lucky to be in the right place. The biggest message here is that it took several consults before I found the right dr. and clinic to take care of me. I've realized that this search for the right care is like buying a car. No dealership wants to send you to another dealsership. They want you to buy their car. Even if what you really want or need is just down the street. Seek and choose carefully.

    Nana, I guess the IL-2 treatments can be so variable to ones tolerance. I'm glad your recovery got easier. Mine was defintely harder. My Dr. tells me that she expects it to be even more difficult this time in. I met a guy who just finished his second round of IL-2 and he was already going to the gym within a week. I get skin peeling in sheets. It gets very tender and raw. He had a little dusting of dry skin. I'm hoping my response reflects the effectiveness of the treatment. In any event, BRING IT ON!

    Whatever it takes!

    Fox,

    Glad to hear that you're able to move forward with IL-2.  Tip: lotion, lotion, lotion and more lotion.  Start lotioning before, during and after treatment.  Though difficult treatment, this is the best shot next to trials that some of us have.  So, you go guy.  You do it all!  And thanks for sharing your experiences.  I have moved on to Votrient with mid day nap side effects. Laughing  Doing well so far.  MRI Oct 8th.  You know, we are fighting for survival here.  We have no cure for this yet.  With RCC stage 4 and mets, I am to the point that I will try any drug or trial, with in quality of life reasoning, that has a chance of keeping me going.  I am happy to have that opportunity.  Actively waiting on the cure!  I worked 6 hours yesterday.  I am taking my grandson to the fall festival tomorrow. yeahhh!  I am not finished and will not go gently into that good night.   I'm just say'in.

    CoolCoolCool

    Lou

  • Alexandra
    Alexandra Member Posts: 1,308

    Diet

    I buy those 2 pound bags of ready to eat lettuce from Sams Club i also get me eggs ham and turkey and other veggies and then i put it all together to make salads to eat for my lunch during the week.I also bike any where from 50 to 100 miles a week and i still have all of my hair and very little if any grey hair and i am 52  years of age and sorry but  considering the three cancer surgeries i have endured i still look better than most guys my age.Now for the dark side i also just love that Miller Lite beer for which i usually drink maybe anywhere from a 12 pack to at times a case a week and what can i say i am pretty Damm Happy.I think sometimes its all about perspective and how we veiw ourselfs.Hey Todd just a quick question have you ever seen the movie called Shawshank Redemption if so their is a quote Morgan Freeman makes during that movie,well i will let you figure that out.

    What was the quote? It's killing me...

    Limelife, help! The only quote I remember: "Andy Dufresne, who crawled through a river of $hit and came out clean on the other side".

    Though most of the time I feel like Andy still on this side, I don't know what it has to do with the diet...

    Todd, the guilt trip your friends are laying on you fades in comparison with what my mom puts me through every morning on the phone. She is 68 and a health nut. Stay strong! If a cookie makes you happy - have a cookie. Life is about living, not over-analyzing your every move to delay recurrence.

  • garym
    garym Member Posts: 1,647
    Alexandra said:

    What was the quote? It's killing me...

    Limelife, help! The only quote I remember: "Andy Dufresne, who crawled through a river of $hit and came out clean on the other side".

    Though most of the time I feel like Andy still on this side, I don't know what it has to do with the diet...

    Todd, the guilt trip your friends are laying on you fades in comparison with what my mom puts me through every morning on the phone. She is 68 and a health nut. Stay strong! If a cookie makes you happy - have a cookie. Life is about living, not over-analyzing your every move to delay recurrence.

    Is it?

    "Its time to get busy livin' or get busy dyin'"

    One of my all time favorites too!!!

  • foxhd
    foxhd Member Posts: 3,181
    garym said:

    Is it?

    "Its time to get busy livin' or get busy dyin'"

    One of my all time favorites too!!!

    See ya's

    I'm re-entering the world of IL-2 this morning. Let's see, I forgot what I like best. Is it the psychosis? diarrhea? vomiting? No. Maybe the sleep deprevation or loss of ability to urinate? Or is it going all week without eating? Just can't choose my favorite. This time I'm bringing my own soft toilet paper and bottled water. Someone mentioned depends for those unexpected departures. I am going to consider this. Now I remember. It is the water weight,skin redness and massive peeling that I miss most. Oh well. I really won't complain. I'm getting chances for survival that so many others never get. So, au revoir my friends. I'm not likely to post for awhile. I'm going to do the best that I can. Total committment. I'll provide an update when I feel able. To everyone, Please do well. Focus on the positive. We can do this. FLY. Fox.

  • garym
    garym Member Posts: 1,647
    foxhd said:

    See ya's

    I'm re-entering the world of IL-2 this morning. Let's see, I forgot what I like best. Is it the psychosis? diarrhea? vomiting? No. Maybe the sleep deprevation or loss of ability to urinate? Or is it going all week without eating? Just can't choose my favorite. This time I'm bringing my own soft toilet paper and bottled water. Someone mentioned depends for those unexpected departures. I am going to consider this. Now I remember. It is the water weight,skin redness and massive peeling that I miss most. Oh well. I really won't complain. I'm getting chances for survival that so many others never get. So, au revoir my friends. I'm not likely to post for awhile. I'm going to do the best that I can. Total committment. I'll provide an update when I feel able. To everyone, Please do well. Focus on the positive. We can do this. FLY. Fox.

    KO'em Fox!!!

    You are the very definition of "Get busy linin'", sending as much positive energy your way as I can muster!!!  Pizza and beer on me as soon as you're ready.  ROCK ON!!!

  • GSRon
    GSRon Member Posts: 1,303
    garym said:

    KO'em Fox!!!

    You are the very definition of "Get busy linin'", sending as much positive energy your way as I can muster!!!  Pizza and beer on me as soon as you're ready.  ROCK ON!!!

    Go Fox Man...!  Hang in

    Go Fox Man...!  Hang in there... dream something nice this time...  And kick Cancer butt..!

    Ron

  • srbelle1
    srbelle1 Member Posts: 123
    foxhd said:

    See ya's

    I'm re-entering the world of IL-2 this morning. Let's see, I forgot what I like best. Is it the psychosis? diarrhea? vomiting? No. Maybe the sleep deprevation or loss of ability to urinate? Or is it going all week without eating? Just can't choose my favorite. This time I'm bringing my own soft toilet paper and bottled water. Someone mentioned depends for those unexpected departures. I am going to consider this. Now I remember. It is the water weight,skin redness and massive peeling that I miss most. Oh well. I really won't complain. I'm getting chances for survival that so many others never get. So, au revoir my friends. I'm not likely to post for awhile. I'm going to do the best that I can. Total committment. I'll provide an update when I feel able. To everyone, Please do well. Focus on the positive. We can do this. FLY. Fox.

    sending you the best wishes

    sending you the best wishes and perhaps, your expectations of the bad effects will lessen their impact.

    post when you can..., positive energy from CA

  • angec
    angec Member Posts: 924
    foxhd said:

    See ya's

    I'm re-entering the world of IL-2 this morning. Let's see, I forgot what I like best. Is it the psychosis? diarrhea? vomiting? No. Maybe the sleep deprevation or loss of ability to urinate? Or is it going all week without eating? Just can't choose my favorite. This time I'm bringing my own soft toilet paper and bottled water. Someone mentioned depends for those unexpected departures. I am going to consider this. Now I remember. It is the water weight,skin redness and massive peeling that I miss most. Oh well. I really won't complain. I'm getting chances for survival that so many others never get. So, au revoir my friends. I'm not likely to post for awhile. I'm going to do the best that I can. Total committment. I'll provide an update when I feel able. To everyone, Please do well. Focus on the positive. We can do this. FLY. Fox.

    Fox, sorry for all that you

    Fox, sorry for all that you will suffer! It is brutal!  It is tough!  It is not fair to have to endure all of this! Cancer stinks!  But I know you are tough and I know you are keeping the cure in front of you at the end of the line! Do what you can and stop when enough is enough! I am praying it is not as rough as it can be, and you get a break this time!  But so glad that your mets are shrinking and the treatment seems to be working!  You have been given another opportunity to kick this thing to the curb!  Here is praying they find a real cure for cancer, one that is a piece of cake, not more torment!  Will be praying for you and thinking of you daily!  Love you Fox!  And, in your honor, I will have my husband play some guitar while my brother will do two miles on his bike, sipping bear and eating pizza! ;)

  • DMike
    DMike Member Posts: 259
    angec said:

    Fox, sorry for all that you

    Fox, sorry for all that you will suffer! It is brutal!  It is tough!  It is not fair to have to endure all of this! Cancer stinks!  But I know you are tough and I know you are keeping the cure in front of you at the end of the line! Do what you can and stop when enough is enough! I am praying it is not as rough as it can be, and you get a break this time!  But so glad that your mets are shrinking and the treatment seems to be working!  You have been given another opportunity to kick this thing to the curb!  Here is praying they find a real cure for cancer, one that is a piece of cake, not more torment!  Will be praying for you and thinking of you daily!  Love you Fox!  And, in your honor, I will have my husband play some guitar while my brother will do two miles on his bike, sipping bear and eating pizza! ;)

    Kick ****

    Good luck Fox!

  • faithlou
    faithlou Member Posts: 41
    foxhd said:

    See ya's

    I'm re-entering the world of IL-2 this morning. Let's see, I forgot what I like best. Is it the psychosis? diarrhea? vomiting? No. Maybe the sleep deprevation or loss of ability to urinate? Or is it going all week without eating? Just can't choose my favorite. This time I'm bringing my own soft toilet paper and bottled water. Someone mentioned depends for those unexpected departures. I am going to consider this. Now I remember. It is the water weight,skin redness and massive peeling that I miss most. Oh well. I really won't complain. I'm getting chances for survival that so many others never get. So, au revoir my friends. I'm not likely to post for awhile. I'm going to do the best that I can. Total committment. I'll provide an update when I feel able. To everyone, Please do well. Focus on the positive. We can do this. FLY. Fox.

    Good luck Fox!

    The best for me was the synchronized vomiting and diarrhea.  Tongue Out  Wet ones is a good item to take with you.  Best of luck! 

  • Eskimo lily
    Eskimo lily Member Posts: 43
    foxhd said:

    See ya's

    I'm re-entering the world of IL-2 this morning. Let's see, I forgot what I like best. Is it the psychosis? diarrhea? vomiting? No. Maybe the sleep deprevation or loss of ability to urinate? Or is it going all week without eating? Just can't choose my favorite. This time I'm bringing my own soft toilet paper and bottled water. Someone mentioned depends for those unexpected departures. I am going to consider this. Now I remember. It is the water weight,skin redness and massive peeling that I miss most. Oh well. I really won't complain. I'm getting chances for survival that so many others never get. So, au revoir my friends. I'm not likely to post for awhile. I'm going to do the best that I can. Total committment. I'll provide an update when I feel able. To everyone, Please do well. Focus on the positive. We can do this. FLY. Fox.

    Fox, I'll be thinking about

    Fox, I'll be thinking about you. I'm sure it will all be worth is when you hear the golden word, "shrinkage"!! 

  • cran1
    cran1 Member Posts: 139
    Hang in there Fox man.

    Hang in there Fox man.

  • Limelife50
    Limelife50 Member Posts: 476
    garym said:

    Is it?

    "Its time to get busy livin' or get busy dyin'"

    One of my all time favorites too!!!

    Bingo

    Thanks Gary a great quote

  • Limelife50
    Limelife50 Member Posts: 476
    Alexandra said:

    What was the quote? It's killing me...

    Limelife, help! The only quote I remember: "Andy Dufresne, who crawled through a river of $hit and came out clean on the other side".

    Though most of the time I feel like Andy still on this side, I don't know what it has to do with the diet...

    Todd, the guilt trip your friends are laying on you fades in comparison with what my mom puts me through every morning on the phone. She is 68 and a health nut. Stay strong! If a cookie makes you happy - have a cookie. Life is about living, not over-analyzing your every move to delay recurrence.

    Hi Alexandra

    Kind of thought Gary would remember that quote word for word

  • donna_lee
    donna_lee Member Posts: 1,018
    cran1 said:

    Hang in there Fox man.

    Hang in there Fox man.

    If you scan the headers quickly, you'll read that "You're going to back in..."  Now that would not be a pleasant view with you in your hospital gown.  Add to that, all the shrinkage Alice is talking about and you really do have problems.

    Fox, this has been a very informative group of posts.  You articulated what many of us have thought or even talked over with others; and it generated many others posts of support and controversy.

    If there was anything we could do for you, we would.  And we honor your fortitude in going through the physical pain and discomfort; we want you to succeed.

    All love and hugs.

    Donna

  • Alexandra
    Alexandra Member Posts: 1,308
    Dear darling Fox

    I didn't get to say "good luck" to you before you went in due to some BS in my life. Kick a$$ and come out on top. I will patiently wait for you on the outside. Then we can play doctor, drink beer and laugh at inappropriate jokes.

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  • TillieSOK
    TillieSOK Member Posts: 252
    donna_lee said:

    If you scan the headers quickly, you'll read that "You're going to back in..."  Now that would not be a pleasant view with you in your hospital gown.  Add to that, all the shrinkage Alice is talking about and you really do have problems.

    Fox, this has been a very informative group of posts.  You articulated what many of us have thought or even talked over with others; and it generated many others posts of support and controversy.

    If there was anything we could do for you, we would.  And we honor your fortitude in going through the physical pain and discomfort; we want you to succeed.

    All love and hugs.

    Donna

    Hey Fox!  I tried to help

    Hey Fox!  I tried to help you, I really, really did!  I got food poisoning just so I could share your symptoms with you....you know, problems shared are halved.....so I've got the diarrhea and the vomiting covered, along with the skin so cold it hurts.  I couldn't quite come to terms with the water weight (I have enough troubles with that anyway, so didn't want more) or the peeling skin without benefit of a bodacious sunburn.  If you need more help getting through this, just let me know!  Hang in there, and WLY2

  • alice124
    alice124 Member Posts: 896
    Okay, I admit it. Not sure if

    Okay, I admit it. Not sure if it's age or this site, but SHRINKAGE IS my favorite word. (NED is three words.)  

    Fox, hope you come home from your latest drug induced psychosis to lots of it. 

     

    ELF ELF ELF ELF ELF ELF ELF ELF

  • foxhd
    foxhd Member Posts: 3,181
    alice124 said:

    Okay, I admit it. Not sure if

    Okay, I admit it. Not sure if it's age or this site, but SHRINKAGE IS my favorite word. (NED is three words.)  

    Fox, hope you come home from your latest drug induced psychosis to lots of it. 

     

    ELF ELF ELF ELF ELF ELF ELF ELF

    Thanks Y'all

    OMG! That is mean chit. I'm getting experienced at this IL-2 stuff. Treatments were stopped after 5 infusions. This time I was afraid that I would never pee again. Then what would I do with it? Maybe Alex has some ideas? It is amazing just how psychotic one can become. I was very confused and disoriented by weds. I didn't know the month, let alone the year. I began the lexapro once I was admitted. It sure helps with sleep and passing time. There is no such thing as passing gas. That comes at a cost. Same skin peeling, redness, and overall miserable. It is amazing. Good news is I am feeling better after only a few days. Better news is I'm home home for a week and then just one more admission for this stuff. I've developed hives along my waist and axillas. I want to scratch them off to raw skin. I'll start on something for it today. Also, unlike our buddy, the Wedgemiester, I am painless. Bone mets are behaving. Let's hope they are surrendering. I wish I could help you out in this area Tex. My eyes are red and swollen. It makes using this computer difficult. But not a biggy. Looking forward to completing this series is a mixed blessing. Because it means a new plan comes into play. I've got several weeks to prepare for that. Alice, I concentrate on believing that having completed IL-2 will make other treatments more effective. I'm all in on that thought. Please all be well. I will be limited in my tolerence for reading and concentrating for a while. But I am here and in everyones corner. FLY!

  • garym
    garym Member Posts: 1,647
    foxhd said:

    Thanks Y'all

    OMG! That is mean chit. I'm getting experienced at this IL-2 stuff. Treatments were stopped after 5 infusions. This time I was afraid that I would never pee again. Then what would I do with it? Maybe Alex has some ideas? It is amazing just how psychotic one can become. I was very confused and disoriented by weds. I didn't know the month, let alone the year. I began the lexapro once I was admitted. It sure helps with sleep and passing time. There is no such thing as passing gas. That comes at a cost. Same skin peeling, redness, and overall miserable. It is amazing. Good news is I am feeling better after only a few days. Better news is I'm home home for a week and then just one more admission for this stuff. I've developed hives along my waist and axillas. I want to scratch them off to raw skin. I'll start on something for it today. Also, unlike our buddy, the Wedgemiester, I am painless. Bone mets are behaving. Let's hope they are surrendering. I wish I could help you out in this area Tex. My eyes are red and swollen. It makes using this computer difficult. But not a biggy. Looking forward to completing this series is a mixed blessing. Because it means a new plan comes into play. I've got several weeks to prepare for that. Alice, I concentrate on believing that having completed IL-2 will make other treatments more effective. I'm all in on that thought. Please all be well. I will be limited in my tolerence for reading and concentrating for a while. But I am here and in everyones corner. FLY!

    AWESOME!!!

    Didn't expect to hear from you for several more days, glad you are bouncing back so quickly.  As hard as it is on you I gotta believe its kickin' cancers **** big time!  Now get some rest.