1-2 point PSA rise

Steve1961
Steve1961 Member Posts: 301
edited March 2020 in Prostate Cancer #1

Been on this forum quite a bit many of you know .in may I will be 21 months since completing regretful radiation treatment ..last PSA was  2.0 at 18 months .5 change from 15 months ..hoping it goes lower if not I'm  thinking my Dr will want another MRI ....what concerns me extremely bad is everything I read about how a 2 point rise in PSA  in 1 year is not good and how it is a Hugh risk of dying from prostate cancer .that and my cribiform diagnosis as well as a bad decifer test result .makesme extremely anxious and not very confident ....heres a quote  from one source.   - Men whose PSA count goes up 2 ng/mL or more in one year are at high risk of dying of prostate cancer despite treatment.          I rest my case ......I will. Bring this up at next dr visit 

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  • eonore
    eonore Member Posts: 118 Member
    edited March 2020 #2
    Psa

    Steve,

    Sorry you are going through this.  If you do not mind, what is your Psa history starting from immediately before the radiation?

     

    Eric

  • Steve1961
    Steve1961 Member Posts: 301
    edited March 2020 #3
    PSA

    2009 4.1 biopsy negative BPH  2010 4.6 biopsy negative bph 2011 5.0  2012 5.0 2013 5.5  biopsy negative ..2014 5.0 015 5.0 2016 5.8...2017 8.5  biopsy 2 cores 3-4 2018 7.1 before treatment 

  • Steve1961
    Steve1961 Member Posts: 301
    edited March 2020 #4
    Dr

    And here I thought my urologist knew what he was doing. All my other specialist or a van tastic. The one I really needed it but was good turned out to be nothing but a low money hungry smooth talking crook son of a ****. I sure hope it doesn't cost me my life. I wish I would have looked intoIt's a long time ago but I didn't think I needed to I guess when I heard the word cancer I should've freaked out and done a ton of research tough lesson to learn I hope my old urologist rots in hell I really do

  • eonore
    eonore Member Posts: 118 Member
    edited March 2020 #5
    Psa

    Steve,

    What has your Psa been since treatment?

    Eric

  • VascodaGama
    VascodaGama Member Posts: 3,495 Member
    edited March 2020 #6
    Steve is gone bananas again

    Steve's comprehensive PSA histology can be seen in his previous thread in here; https://csn.cancer.org/node/321342

    I believe that his next test is due to be done now at his 21 months mark post treatment. As like many of us, he is worried for the results as the date approaches.

    Let's be positive.

    VG

  • Steve1961
    Steve1961 Member Posts: 301
    edited March 2020 #7

    Steve is gone bananas again

    Steve's comprehensive PSA histology can be seen in his previous thread in here; https://csn.cancer.org/node/321342

    I believe that his next test is due to be done now at his 21 months mark post treatment. As like many of us, he is worried for the results as the date approaches.

    Let's be positive.

    VG

    Bananas

    Tough to not worry when you read bad news all the time about what your diagnosis was .also having that pancrestic lesion that  needs to be checked doesn't help ..sorry was just looking for facts instead of just hope 

  • Georges Calvez
    Georges Calvez Member Posts: 545 Member
    edited March 2020 #8
    Coronovirus

    Hi Steve

    I am starting to worry more about coronovirus now.
    I have blood tests and doctor's visits at the end of the month but they are very likely to be postponed.

    Best wishes,

    Georges

  • Josephg
    Josephg Member Posts: 317 Member
    edited March 2020 #9
    Upcoming Medical Appointments

    I've got a number of medical appointments coming up in the first half of April, and I agree that they will most likely need to be postponed.

  • Max Former Hodgkins Stage 3
    Max Former Hodgkins Stage 3 Member Posts: 3,721 Member
    edited March 2020 #10

    Coronovirus

    Hi Steve

    I am starting to worry more about coronovirus now.
    I have blood tests and doctor's visits at the end of the month but they are very likely to be postponed.

    Best wishes,

    Georges

    Corona

    All of my med charts are stamped "Autoimmune compromised," from my Lymphoma history.  I am not worried about corona at all, since it is clinically usually not worse than the common cold.   In 2009, 16,000 in the US died of swine flu, with no closures of anythng.  About 50 people have died in the US of it to date, and mass hysteria dominates -- total ignorance.   It is like a 1950s Japanese horror flick, and the media intentionally distort facts and ignore history, such as comparing corona to swine.  Also, corona (according to some) has very likely statistically peaked, and moving downward on the bell curve.  But do not expect to see this on your evening news.

  • eonore
    eonore Member Posts: 118 Member
    edited March 2020 #11

    Corona

    All of my med charts are stamped "Autoimmune compromised," from my Lymphoma history.  I am not worried about corona at all, since it is clinically usually not worse than the common cold.   In 2009, 16,000 in the US died of swine flu, with no closures of anythng.  About 50 people have died in the US of it to date, and mass hysteria dominates -- total ignorance.   It is like a 1950s Japanese horror flick, and the media intentionally distort facts and ignore history, such as comparing corona to swine.  Also, corona (according to some) has very likely statistically peaked, and moving downward on the bell curve.  But do not expect to see this on your evening news.

    Corona

    Max,

    I hope in a month or two you will be proved correct.

    Eric

     

  • hewhositsoncushions
    hewhositsoncushions Member Posts: 402 Member
    edited March 2020 #12

    Corona

    All of my med charts are stamped "Autoimmune compromised," from my Lymphoma history.  I am not worried about corona at all, since it is clinically usually not worse than the common cold.   In 2009, 16,000 in the US died of swine flu, with no closures of anythng.  About 50 people have died in the US of it to date, and mass hysteria dominates -- total ignorance.   It is like a 1950s Japanese horror flick, and the media intentionally distort facts and ignore history, such as comparing corona to swine.  Also, corona (according to some) has very likely statistically peaked, and moving downward on the bell curve.  But do not expect to see this on your evening news.

    Max

    Max

    Hate to rain on your parade but it has a much high R0 number and the CFR is much higher (IFR will drop in time).

    Hospitalisation rate is 15-20% of which 5% need ventilation and then a % of those go on to die.

    Co-morbidities are a major factor but not in all cases.

    Local pollution levels also affect it.

    It's just flu is what got us to this point.

    Please, I urge you all - treat this seriously without panicking. Social distancing / isolation are critical to avoid overwhelming your health system and incrfeaseing the load on hospitals.

    Take vitamin D and (need to verify) vitamin C but DO NOT TAKE IBRUPROFEN!!!!!

    Good luck!

  • MK1965
    MK1965 Member Posts: 230 Member
    edited March 2020 #13

    Corona

    All of my med charts are stamped "Autoimmune compromised," from my Lymphoma history.  I am not worried about corona at all, since it is clinically usually not worse than the common cold.   In 2009, 16,000 in the US died of swine flu, with no closures of anythng.  About 50 people have died in the US of it to date, and mass hysteria dominates -- total ignorance.   It is like a 1950s Japanese horror flick, and the media intentionally distort facts and ignore history, such as comparing corona to swine.  Also, corona (according to some) has very likely statistically peaked, and moving downward on the bell curve.  But do not expect to see this on your evening news.

    Covid19

    Max,

    I am of the same opinion.

    Totaly, agree on everything you sad.

    Mass hysteria caused by media and leftist politicians.

    Take care,

    God bless!
    MK

  • Max Former Hodgkins Stage 3
    Max Former Hodgkins Stage 3 Member Posts: 3,721 Member

    Max

    Max

    Hate to rain on your parade but it has a much high R0 number and the CFR is much higher (IFR will drop in time).

    Hospitalisation rate is 15-20% of which 5% need ventilation and then a % of those go on to die.

    Co-morbidities are a major factor but not in all cases.

    Local pollution levels also affect it.

    It's just flu is what got us to this point.

    Please, I urge you all - treat this seriously without panicking. Social distancing / isolation are critical to avoid overwhelming your health system and incrfeaseing the load on hospitals.

    Take vitamin D and (need to verify) vitamin C but DO NOT TAKE IBRUPROFEN!!!!!

    Good luck!

    Rain

    hewho,

    I never mind a little rain; St Pattie's was cancelled, and we were advised to 'intoxicate-in-place,' so all is well.

    Official stats in US currently rate the mortality of Corona at 00.9, or less than 1%.   Nearly half of all infected never show any symptoms at all.   Calmer voices will prove correct in the end.   Auto crashes will continue to kill at massively higher rates than any flu, but people are not running from automobiles in terror.  This whole made for OCD hysteria reminds me of the bomb shelters and nuclear drills in school in the 1960s.   People, clam to hell down

  • eonore
    eonore Member Posts: 118 Member
    MK1965 said:

    Covid19

    Max,

    I am of the same opinion.

    Totaly, agree on everything you sad.

    Mass hysteria caused by media and leftist politicians.

    Take care,

    God bless!
    MK

    Coved 19

    Your source for this conclusion?

     

    Eric

  • Flyer83948
    Flyer83948 Member Posts: 34
    edited March 2020 #16

    Rain

    hewho,

    I never mind a little rain; St Pattie's was cancelled, and we were advised to 'intoxicate-in-place,' so all is well.

    Official stats in US currently rate the mortality of Corona at 00.9, or less than 1%.   Nearly half of all infected never show any symptoms at all.   Calmer voices will prove correct in the end.   Auto crashes will continue to kill at massively higher rates than any flu, but people are not running from automobiles in terror.  This whole made for OCD hysteria reminds me of the bomb shelters and nuclear drills in school in the 1960s.   People, clam to hell down

    "Official stats in US

    "Official stats in US currently rate the mortality of Corona at 00.9, or less than 1%. "

     

    Yeah, that's the mortality rate averaged over all age groups. But for those people at age 60 and up I believe that the coronavirus mortality rate is about 5%, or one in twenty. So it is a significant threat to older citizens. At the same time, I tend to think that the coronavirus scare has gotten out of hand and I question the need to do things like close public schools and have large scale "shelters-in-place". Maybe a better strategy for future pandemics of this sort which predominantly threaten older citizens is to have 2-age-tier strategy in which people younger than age 60 do about their normal lives while taking extra precautions to take common sense measures like washing their hands frequently, while people older than age 60 or those with pre-existing health problems take further measures including sheltering-in-place in order to maximize their protection. Hopefully, the next viral scare will not be so disruptive to businesses and the daily lives of most people.

  • lighterwood67
    lighterwood67 Member Posts: 321 Member
    edited March 2020 #17
    PSA Rise

    Well, Steve looks like you are on the trail.  Just remember, I told you this before you made the decision to go with RT, sometimes you can analyze to paralyze.  For sure, the medical professionals need to give you an answer as to why your PSA is going up.  Hopefully, they can do that.  Good luck on your journey.

  • Max Former Hodgkins Stage 3
    Max Former Hodgkins Stage 3 Member Posts: 3,721 Member

    "Official stats in US

    "Official stats in US currently rate the mortality of Corona at 00.9, or less than 1%. "

     

    Yeah, that's the mortality rate averaged over all age groups. But for those people at age 60 and up I believe that the coronavirus mortality rate is about 5%, or one in twenty. So it is a significant threat to older citizens. At the same time, I tend to think that the coronavirus scare has gotten out of hand and I question the need to do things like close public schools and have large scale "shelters-in-place". Maybe a better strategy for future pandemics of this sort which predominantly threaten older citizens is to have 2-age-tier strategy in which people younger than age 60 do about their normal lives while taking extra precautions to take common sense measures like washing their hands frequently, while people older than age 60 or those with pre-existing health problems take further measures including sheltering-in-place in order to maximize their protection. Hopefully, the next viral scare will not be so disruptive to businesses and the daily lives of most people.

    Stats

    I do not disagree with any of your assertions, Flyer.  But that is the way these aggregate statistics are reported, and compare oranges-to-oranges.  My state just banned indoor dining at restaurants, a horrible idea.  It will instantly put huge numbers of people out of work, and shuttering everthing icreases a sense of dread.  It will also cause countless numbers to lose medical insurance; not a smart thing to force on society.   The ability to go out and have a bit of a normal life will be much more therapudic, and no risk, if proper protocols are followed.

    I am 63, and had my immune system fried with six months of high-dose chemo cocktails, so I know that we older individuals have higher risk statistics.  Your point is timely and well-received.

  • Steve1961
    Steve1961 Member Posts: 301

    PSA Rise

    Well, Steve looks like you are on the trail.  Just remember, I told you this before you made the decision to go with RT, sometimes you can analyze to paralyze.  For sure, the medical professionals need to give you an answer as to why your PSA is going up.  Hopefully, they can do that.  Good luck on your journey.

    Your reply

    your reply  means nothing to me my PSA is not going up

  • lighterwood67
    lighterwood67 Member Posts: 321 Member
    edited March 2020 #20
    Steve1961 said:

    Your reply

    your reply  means nothing to me my PSA is not going up

    Good news

    Must have just misread something at the start: "since completing regretful radiation treatment ..last PSA was  2.0 at 18 months .5 change from 15 months ..hoping it goes lower ".  My bad.  Good luck on your journey.

     

  • Georges Calvez
    Georges Calvez Member Posts: 545 Member

    Stats

    I do not disagree with any of your assertions, Flyer.  But that is the way these aggregate statistics are reported, and compare oranges-to-oranges.  My state just banned indoor dining at restaurants, a horrible idea.  It will instantly put huge numbers of people out of work, and shuttering everthing icreases a sense of dread.  It will also cause countless numbers to lose medical insurance; not a smart thing to force on society.   The ability to go out and have a bit of a normal life will be much more therapudic, and no risk, if proper protocols are followed.

    I am 63, and had my immune system fried with six months of high-dose chemo cocktails, so I know that we older individuals have higher risk statistics.  Your point is timely and well-received.

    Next steps

    Hi there,

    The US government is taking steps like testing people for free, guaranteeing sick pay and moving towards free treatment for coronovirus.
    No one really knows how bad it will be or what a government that is not China has to do to stop it.
    The Chinese had some tough methods to ensure that people did not move around, the US and Europe will not be able to reach for the same playbook.
    Besides the fact that they are not authoritarian regimes the security forces are nowhere near big enough.
    In the worst hit Italian province they are now struggling to bury the dead.
    I am hoping that it will not come to that in my corner of Brittany.

    Best wishes,

    Georges