top score on MasterCard ! ouch Pete is back to work

pete43lost_at_sea
pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900
edited July 2012 in Colorectal Cancer #1
So the master declines when you get over 75k.

No more credit sux, no more supplements on order.

Being rigorous on value for money.

Third day back at my business after 2 years off, wife has done a super job running our eight boardinghouses.

Doing lots of cleaning, showing empty Rooms, replacing old leaky gas stoves, New roofs and verandah.

I got my mind off crc akk together. Which is good.

Dear wife described my last 2 years away as a holiday.
I don't agree, but let it slide. Crc is not a good holiday destination

So I am focused on stopping the bank screening the last few bucks out of me!

They charge 20.5%, I do believe they put exec bonuses and shareholders first.

When the going gets tough, the tough to going. So I am going to work.

It means more stress but this is offset by reduced financial stress which is real.

Working means less juices, meditation and home cooking, but I am trying.

The big silver lining here is selecting financially viable alternative Therapies.

My new Book title is silver Pete! I got the title as a start.

I will just document and live one day at a time.

Anyone got within a few thousand of financial ruin?
If you did I salute you!

See my blog for advice on robbing banks for cancer patients! All legal kind of

Hugs,
Pete

Hugs,
Pete
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  • Goldie1
    Goldie1 Member Posts: 264 Member
    What to do??
    Got a similar problem here. Pat hasn't been able to work for the last year, the bills keep coming in, and his health insurance is going to end in the next 2-3 months. As if we don't have enough worries! So, Pat is also considering going back to work. New worry...can he handle it? He drives a truck, heavy lifting, long days. Waiting for his onc to ok his return to work.

    How do you psych yourself up for returning to work? It would solve our money woes but is it worth it regarding his health? Any insights would be a big help!

    Thanks!

    Ellen
  • tommycat
    tommycat Member Posts: 790
    :)
    Hey Pete,
    I was thinking of how much you're going to bring back with you to your businesses: You've certainly experienced things you never saw coming, been through some major battles, and learned mucho.
    All this can only make you stronger, so you are bringing the New Pete back to your businesses.
    I too recently went back to work, and have to say----I love it.
    Hope you find you do too.
    Take care,
    Tommycat
  • steved
    steved Member Posts: 834
    Work therapy
    Pete, I know you are keen to have your life full of things that help your recovery and your health and I would propose, done right, work can fall into that category. I have kept working full time as much as possible through this and have found it hugely helpful. It provides the routine, role and normality (strange when I work with seriously mentally ill people) to my day. It stops cancer running my routine, provides distraction and patients at work who know nothing of my illness are the ones who treat me most normally.

    Work can be part of the healing too.

    steve
  • janderson1964
    janderson1964 Member Posts: 2,215
    steved said:

    Work therapy
    Pete, I know you are keen to have your life full of things that help your recovery and your health and I would propose, done right, work can fall into that category. I have kept working full time as much as possible through this and have found it hugely helpful. It provides the routine, role and normality (strange when I work with seriously mentally ill people) to my day. It stops cancer running my routine, provides distraction and patients at work who know nothing of my illness are the ones who treat me most normally.

    Work can be part of the healing too.

    steve

    Well out Steve. I haved
    Well out Steve. I haved worked as much as i can. Now that i am done with treatment for the third time i cant wait to get back to work full time.
  • LivinginNH
    LivinginNH Member Posts: 1,456
    Pete - You have a few

    Pete - You have a few thousand left - can you share!?? LOL! :-D I just finished sewing two pillow cases out of an old flannel sheet in order to save thirty bucks, so yes, I can kind of relate to having money issues. But I did treat myself to an ice cream today! :-)

    Wishing you continued success with your health and business ventures.

    Hugs,

    Cyn
  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900
    Goldie1 said:

    What to do??
    Got a similar problem here. Pat hasn't been able to work for the last year, the bills keep coming in, and his health insurance is going to end in the next 2-3 months. As if we don't have enough worries! So, Pat is also considering going back to work. New worry...can he handle it? He drives a truck, heavy lifting, long days. Waiting for his onc to ok his return to work.

    How do you psych yourself up for returning to work? It would solve our money woes but is it worth it regarding his health? Any insights would be a big help!

    Thanks!

    Ellen

    ellen sorry you are in the similar bind
    my focus while working is to chill, to be peaceful.
    today i hoped into an empty room and got a couple of hours sleep.

    the strain is tiring in itself.

    i felt relaxed, i just wish my wife would sell one of our properties.

    my heart is in meditation and alternative therapies not making money.

    its also sad to spend my precious days doing what i don't want to.

    make a decision and then stick to it, do it joyfully. i am telling this to myslef as i type.
    i will have to follow my own advice to you.

    hugs,
    Pete
  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900
    tommycat said:

    :)
    Hey Pete,
    I was thinking of how much you're going to bring back with you to your businesses: You've certainly experienced things you never saw coming, been through some major battles, and learned mucho.
    All this can only make you stronger, so you are bringing the New Pete back to your businesses.
    I too recently went back to work, and have to say----I love it.
    Hope you find you do too.
    Take care,
    Tommycat

    thanks tommycat
    so glad you love your work!

    i do love the work, the problem i love healing more.
    i love what i do, and i do what i love.

    hugs,
    pete
  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900
    steved said:

    Work therapy
    Pete, I know you are keen to have your life full of things that help your recovery and your health and I would propose, done right, work can fall into that category. I have kept working full time as much as possible through this and have found it hugely helpful. It provides the routine, role and normality (strange when I work with seriously mentally ill people) to my day. It stops cancer running my routine, provides distraction and patients at work who know nothing of my illness are the ones who treat me most normally.

    Work can be part of the healing too.

    steve

    thanks steve
    here is hoping it is.

    alt doc knows about going to work and money problems, off the record i got 5 shots artemisin from an old patient. that $350 just out of the blue, best gift for a crc patient on a budget.

    if these alt strategies are going to really work, its getting time for them to put up or shut up. mind you an incredibly slowly rising cea is better then a rocketing cea.

    i want a one point fall for my birthday.

    its strange but i find routine, role and normality to be my new healing norm, it can hapily spend all day juicing and meditating and studying. its really what i love.

    so i goto my work and miss out on my support group, but complaining. but i see the tradeoff in time and where one puts ones priority.

    I find working and exisiting in the world kind of fraudulent, i feel like a ghost whose existence will disappear soon and the city will keep on. I feel work for me is the ultimate distraction from my healing efforts, thats why i resisted going back as long as i could. thats why i asked my wife to sell one of our 8 properties last october to put over 1,000,000 in our bank so we could be relaxed as a family.

    now we are both working, not seeing the kids as much. my wife is not doing her physical health any favours and her mental health, well you probably know about hoarding and ocd. her decisions and priorities are intreging, a tad frustrating.

    i am glad you found work helpful, i am looking at this months work as an interesting experiment. if the markers go down then great.

    hugs,
    pete
  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900

    Pete - You have a few

    Pete - You have a few thousand left - can you share!?? LOL! :-D I just finished sewing two pillow cases out of an old flannel sheet in order to save thirty bucks, so yes, I can kind of relate to having money issues. But I did treat myself to an ice cream today! :-)

    Wishing you continued success with your health and business ventures.

    Hugs,

    Cyn

    thanks cyn,
    was it really good? the icecream!

    is n't it crazy, i snuck some of my kids left over chocolate sunday from the freezer today.
    it was good as well! so good and i was so bad! its good to be bad sometimes.

    so i got no cash, drove up to hunry jacks to get the kids an icecream 50cents here only. but the kids did not want the $2 cheese burger. this was a one off treat for the end of the school holidays. we drove through the drive through ordering nothing, the kids accepting the fact i was not going to buy $1 icecream on the credit card.

    so we went home, i cooked up some free range chicken satay stick and veg and then made a delicious pumpkin soup. they had no icecream and i got last weeks left over icecream sunday.

    my pumkin soup recipe all organic pumkin about 5 cups, a large potatoe,, an onion. coconut cream, cinammon, some vegetable stock with alkaline water. the puree at end gets rid of the seeds and the skin. thats right i use all the pumpkin. if its organic why not?

    health and cheap and i was happy and so were the kids. running low on cash, i have new found empathy for having to choose the alternatives that are affordable. my wheat grass is going great guns.

    hugs,
    pete
  • Minnesotagirl
    Minnesotagirl Member Posts: 141

    thanks cyn,
    was it really good? the icecream!

    is n't it crazy, i snuck some of my kids left over chocolate sunday from the freezer today.
    it was good as well! so good and i was so bad! its good to be bad sometimes.

    so i got no cash, drove up to hunry jacks to get the kids an icecream 50cents here only. but the kids did not want the $2 cheese burger. this was a one off treat for the end of the school holidays. we drove through the drive through ordering nothing, the kids accepting the fact i was not going to buy $1 icecream on the credit card.

    so we went home, i cooked up some free range chicken satay stick and veg and then made a delicious pumpkin soup. they had no icecream and i got last weeks left over icecream sunday.

    my pumkin soup recipe all organic pumkin about 5 cups, a large potatoe,, an onion. coconut cream, cinammon, some vegetable stock with alkaline water. the puree at end gets rid of the seeds and the skin. thats right i use all the pumpkin. if its organic why not?

    health and cheap and i was happy and so were the kids. running low on cash, i have new found empathy for having to choose the alternatives that are affordable. my wheat grass is going great guns.

    hugs,
    pete

    Money, Money, Money
    Hey Pete,

    Your pumpkin soup sounds great. I am working about 5-7 hours a week only so I to am on a budget... I have been canning fresh tomatoes and dehydrating them as well. Really great to make your own v8 juice or my version...tomatoes, celery, parsley, carrot, sometimes I add beet, onion or fresh garlic...husband hates the onion and garlic in it though...too spicy for him!

    Keep your head up Pete...if life throws you lemons...make lemonade. Right???

    "Minnesotagirl"
  • Sundanceh
    Sundanceh Member Posts: 4,392 Member
    "Here in the Real World..."
    "It's not that easy at all."

    Well, that's the way that Alan Jackson sang about it.

    I tend to agree with your wife, Pete...you fought your initial fight...and then your pursuit for all the other was holiday time....I've fought eight-years and can't get 2 minutes, much less 2 years.

    The ladies are being too kind to you, Pete...I can assure you that here in the good ol' USA and especially down South, the women folk here want their men working and getting it done.

    There's not a southern honey (or a northern honey either) I know that would be off raising the kids and running businesses - while their husband spent the day meditating and pursuing his pleasures...all day every day for that length of time.

    ...especially if he was able- bodied and young - which you are.

    Believe me.

    They'd have you out of here like "$hit through a goose."

    So, Welcome Back to the Real World...

    I feel trapped with work and don't get the enjoyment or fulfillment out of it anymore - I want more at this stage of my life...but I'm not blessed with the financial floorplan that you have to operate with, so I must work for my insurance and try to build a better life and pay bill down - in case I can earn a chance to enjoy any life that I have left.

    Keep in mind, Pete...that there are so many of us not as blessed financially as you are...it's your money to do with as you will...but when you tell folks that you're $75K in credit card debt and that it mostly was spent on your health hobby, there are many of us that are barely able to get by every 2-weeks and they might barely have 75 cents to their name.

    Alot of folks are doing without they are so strapped. Why they said "good going" it might actually be hurting a segment of the population who are unable to dig as deeply as you can...or have million dollar homes to trade in for security...that's the "hand to mouth" club...and it's real.

    I know of a situation in our community right now who would love to see one another...but they cannot due to financial limitations...I've been trying to save up money for one of them to travel to the other (they don't know about it yet)...I figure it will be about $500, maybe a little more.

    If I can save that money out of my paychecks, I've been working on it awhile but am not close to there just yet.

    I'm going to buy one of them a plane ticket and make this reunion a reality so they can hug one another - before something happens and that opportunity is lost. That would be really upsetting to me if this did not happen.

    My sacrifice will also cost my wife, but she agrees with me and says we should do it if and when we can. This will come at the expense of anything I want or need - it means that the trip I wanted to take this year probably won't be happening....but this just seems so much more important.

    You see, Pete?

    I'm trying to pay it forward - cancer teaches us to look outside of our selves and our own selfish interests - and try to see a need and fill that niche for someone else - if we are ever in a position to do that.

    You're not at the stage of your cancer journey where you see other people - you are still walking the path of self-interests and you find yourself absorbed at that level with you. It is my hopes that one day you will see what a difference you could make in someone else's life and help to make a dream come true for someone else.

    That's the small grass roots movement that I like to practice...

    I just wanted to offer another perspective for you.

    -Craig
  • janderson1964
    janderson1964 Member Posts: 2,215
    Sundanceh said:

    "Here in the Real World..."
    "It's not that easy at all."

    Well, that's the way that Alan Jackson sang about it.

    I tend to agree with your wife, Pete...you fought your initial fight...and then your pursuit for all the other was holiday time....I've fought eight-years and can't get 2 minutes, much less 2 years.

    The ladies are being too kind to you, Pete...I can assure you that here in the good ol' USA and especially down South, the women folk here want their men working and getting it done.

    There's not a southern honey (or a northern honey either) I know that would be off raising the kids and running businesses - while their husband spent the day meditating and pursuing his pleasures...all day every day for that length of time.

    ...especially if he was able- bodied and young - which you are.

    Believe me.

    They'd have you out of here like "$hit through a goose."

    So, Welcome Back to the Real World...

    I feel trapped with work and don't get the enjoyment or fulfillment out of it anymore - I want more at this stage of my life...but I'm not blessed with the financial floorplan that you have to operate with, so I must work for my insurance and try to build a better life and pay bill down - in case I can earn a chance to enjoy any life that I have left.

    Keep in mind, Pete...that there are so many of us not as blessed financially as you are...it's your money to do with as you will...but when you tell folks that you're $75K in credit card debt and that it mostly was spent on your health hobby, there are many of us that are barely able to get by every 2-weeks and they might barely have 75 cents to their name.

    Alot of folks are doing without they are so strapped. Why they said "good going" it might actually be hurting a segment of the population who are unable to dig as deeply as you can...or have million dollar homes to trade in for security...that's the "hand to mouth" club...and it's real.

    I know of a situation in our community right now who would love to see one another...but they cannot due to financial limitations...I've been trying to save up money for one of them to travel to the other (they don't know about it yet)...I figure it will be about $500, maybe a little more.

    If I can save that money out of my paychecks, I've been working on it awhile but am not close to there just yet.

    I'm going to buy one of them a plane ticket and make this reunion a reality so they can hug one another - before something happens and that opportunity is lost. That would be really upsetting to me if this did not happen.

    My sacrifice will also cost my wife, but she agrees with me and says we should do it if and when we can. This will come at the expense of anything I want or need - it means that the trip I wanted to take this year probably won't be happening....but this just seems so much more important.

    You see, Pete?

    I'm trying to pay it forward - cancer teaches us to look outside of our selves and our own selfish interests - and try to see a need and fill that niche for someone else - if we are ever in a position to do that.

    You're not at the stage of your cancer journey where you see other people - you are still walking the path of self-interests and you find yourself absorbed at that level with you. It is my hopes that one day you will see what a difference you could make in someone else's life and help to make a dream come true for someone else.

    That's the small grass roots movement that I like to practice...

    I just wanted to offer another perspective for you.

    -Craig

    Craig I would like to donate
    Craig I would like to donate some to the person that you mentioned plane ticket to see her daughter.
  • herdizziness
    herdizziness Member Posts: 3,624
    Sundanceh said:

    "Here in the Real World..."
    "It's not that easy at all."

    Well, that's the way that Alan Jackson sang about it.

    I tend to agree with your wife, Pete...you fought your initial fight...and then your pursuit for all the other was holiday time....I've fought eight-years and can't get 2 minutes, much less 2 years.

    The ladies are being too kind to you, Pete...I can assure you that here in the good ol' USA and especially down South, the women folk here want their men working and getting it done.

    There's not a southern honey (or a northern honey either) I know that would be off raising the kids and running businesses - while their husband spent the day meditating and pursuing his pleasures...all day every day for that length of time.

    ...especially if he was able- bodied and young - which you are.

    Believe me.

    They'd have you out of here like "$hit through a goose."

    So, Welcome Back to the Real World...

    I feel trapped with work and don't get the enjoyment or fulfillment out of it anymore - I want more at this stage of my life...but I'm not blessed with the financial floorplan that you have to operate with, so I must work for my insurance and try to build a better life and pay bill down - in case I can earn a chance to enjoy any life that I have left.

    Keep in mind, Pete...that there are so many of us not as blessed financially as you are...it's your money to do with as you will...but when you tell folks that you're $75K in credit card debt and that it mostly was spent on your health hobby, there are many of us that are barely able to get by every 2-weeks and they might barely have 75 cents to their name.

    Alot of folks are doing without they are so strapped. Why they said "good going" it might actually be hurting a segment of the population who are unable to dig as deeply as you can...or have million dollar homes to trade in for security...that's the "hand to mouth" club...and it's real.

    I know of a situation in our community right now who would love to see one another...but they cannot due to financial limitations...I've been trying to save up money for one of them to travel to the other (they don't know about it yet)...I figure it will be about $500, maybe a little more.

    If I can save that money out of my paychecks, I've been working on it awhile but am not close to there just yet.

    I'm going to buy one of them a plane ticket and make this reunion a reality so they can hug one another - before something happens and that opportunity is lost. That would be really upsetting to me if this did not happen.

    My sacrifice will also cost my wife, but she agrees with me and says we should do it if and when we can. This will come at the expense of anything I want or need - it means that the trip I wanted to take this year probably won't be happening....but this just seems so much more important.

    You see, Pete?

    I'm trying to pay it forward - cancer teaches us to look outside of our selves and our own selfish interests - and try to see a need and fill that niche for someone else - if we are ever in a position to do that.

    You're not at the stage of your cancer journey where you see other people - you are still walking the path of self-interests and you find yourself absorbed at that level with you. It is my hopes that one day you will see what a difference you could make in someone else's life and help to make a dream come true for someone else.

    That's the small grass roots movement that I like to practice...

    I just wanted to offer another perspective for you.

    -Craig

    Wow Craig
    You sure hit the nail on the head with that. I've been thinking along the same lines, but wasn't sure how to word it.
    I couldn't get the words that his wife said his vacation was over and he did not consider fighting crc a vacation off my mind. I thought he too, had a wonderful vacation while using the excuse of non-active crc to it's very best limits possible. Drinking wheat grass or whatever you call it, isn't a do or die thing in my mind. If a man can make it to all these retreats and conferences and travel around looking for the latest "cure all", then by golly he could get his sweet arse to work and quit making his woman take care of it all.
    I do silently fume when I see him using money that could be paying bills or making his wife's life a bit easier.
    And as for the kids, yep no ice cream today, cause Dad needs to buy the latest scam. Sure kids don't need ice cream but if dad hadn't been wasting all that money away in his pursuits, they could have had an ice cream treat. I swear, the money would have been better spent on counseling to figure out why Pete was trying to run away from the devil so dang hard, and why he feels the devil is on his heels breathing down his neck.
    I go to school full time (hey, I need those scholarships that help pay my deductible, mind you help pay, because I sure as heck can' pay it all, I struggle)I watch my grandsons, one of which I've been watching since the dx of Stage IV colon cancer, he was born after, he is now two, if that isn't a heck of a job I don't know what is. And in an attempt to help pay bills, I also work a part time job 4 days a week keeping score for softball games. You do what you gotta do. That of course along with cleaning house, mowing our yard, tending the garden, washing and drying clothes, shopping and everything else.
    I was particular in awe that Pete thought going back to work meant no more homemade meals??? What???? Women have been working full time days and cooking homemade meals everyday as well, as well as the mirade of other things we have to do, I was one of them when I was raising my children. Heck, I did chemo and within hours was cleaning house and doing what I needed to do, I even babysat my grandson while I was GETTING the chemo at the hospital. I just can't boo hoo over Pete's problem of going back to work.
    The only stress free life is one that has ended Pete, so as Craig said, welcome back to the real world, I hope you can handle it
    Hooray for your wife, about time she got around to demanding you quit babying the heck out of yourself and take on the responsibility for your household once again.
    Winter Marie
  • manwithnoname
    manwithnoname Member Posts: 402

    Wow Craig
    You sure hit the nail on the head with that. I've been thinking along the same lines, but wasn't sure how to word it.
    I couldn't get the words that his wife said his vacation was over and he did not consider fighting crc a vacation off my mind. I thought he too, had a wonderful vacation while using the excuse of non-active crc to it's very best limits possible. Drinking wheat grass or whatever you call it, isn't a do or die thing in my mind. If a man can make it to all these retreats and conferences and travel around looking for the latest "cure all", then by golly he could get his sweet arse to work and quit making his woman take care of it all.
    I do silently fume when I see him using money that could be paying bills or making his wife's life a bit easier.
    And as for the kids, yep no ice cream today, cause Dad needs to buy the latest scam. Sure kids don't need ice cream but if dad hadn't been wasting all that money away in his pursuits, they could have had an ice cream treat. I swear, the money would have been better spent on counseling to figure out why Pete was trying to run away from the devil so dang hard, and why he feels the devil is on his heels breathing down his neck.
    I go to school full time (hey, I need those scholarships that help pay my deductible, mind you help pay, because I sure as heck can' pay it all, I struggle)I watch my grandsons, one of which I've been watching since the dx of Stage IV colon cancer, he was born after, he is now two, if that isn't a heck of a job I don't know what is. And in an attempt to help pay bills, I also work a part time job 4 days a week keeping score for softball games. You do what you gotta do. That of course along with cleaning house, mowing our yard, tending the garden, washing and drying clothes, shopping and everything else.
    I was particular in awe that Pete thought going back to work meant no more homemade meals??? What???? Women have been working full time days and cooking homemade meals everyday as well, as well as the mirade of other things we have to do, I was one of them when I was raising my children. Heck, I did chemo and within hours was cleaning house and doing what I needed to do, I even babysat my grandson while I was GETTING the chemo at the hospital. I just can't boo hoo over Pete's problem of going back to work.
    The only stress free life is one that has ended Pete, so as Craig said, welcome back to the real world, I hope you can handle it
    Hooray for your wife, about time she got around to demanding you quit babying the heck out of yourself and take on the responsibility for your household once again.
    Winter Marie

    LOL
    "cause Dad needs to buy the latest scam"

    "your health hobby"

    Pete how dare you use your own money for trying to healing yourself...you should be working your **** off cos that's why we were put on this Earth.

    Now stop with all this hippy crap and sort your self out...
  • Lovekitties
    Lovekitties Member Posts: 3,364 Member
    Dear Pete
    I think you are giving a bit TMI (too much information) about your finances and how you spend it.

    How you spend your money is certainly your choice, but I can't find sympathy for your situation.

    The pictures you paint of the wife working very hard to save your assets and your children doing without the small treat of an ice cream cone while lamenting you have to go back to work does not show you in a good light.

    The insight you give us here is that you are running scared from cancer trying to find a cure at the expense of all else.

    Life has to be more than our fear that cancer may eventually kill us.

    Fear of what might be will bring us down far faster than any disease can.

    We all must find a balance to do what we must for our health while building good memories, for those we love, to cherish when we are gone.

    I hope you can find that balance.

    Marie who loves kitties
  • thingy45
    thingy45 Member Posts: 632

    Dear Pete
    I think you are giving a bit TMI (too much information) about your finances and how you spend it.

    How you spend your money is certainly your choice, but I can't find sympathy for your situation.

    The pictures you paint of the wife working very hard to save your assets and your children doing without the small treat of an ice cream cone while lamenting you have to go back to work does not show you in a good light.

    The insight you give us here is that you are running scared from cancer trying to find a cure at the expense of all else.

    Life has to be more than our fear that cancer may eventually kill us.

    Fear of what might be will bring us down far faster than any disease can.

    We all must find a balance to do what we must for our health while building good memories, for those we love, to cherish when we are gone.

    I hope you can find that balance.

    Marie who loves kitties

    Been there done that
    Yes Pete, I have been in debt, NOT because of myself, but because of an overspending husband, I had to sell assets, my own home,investment homes, cars boat etc etc.
    I have lost thousands but have repaid everything by working my sweet 'a...sh " off.
    I was a realtor and worked 24/7

    It was 5 times as much as you owe at the moment!!!!!!

    I worked, had a house, dogs, kids and I cooked everyday a nutricious meal and cleaned and did laundry,tended to the yard and entertained on the weekends, PLUS I was crippled by Arthritus, which I still am.

    YOU made the debt, so not more then logic that you go back to work and repay what you created. ADVICE>>> call the creditcard comp. and make a deal.

    working is good for you, it keeps your mind of your cancer. I tel myself everyday, I AM CANCER FREE and guess what... right now I am ned,ONC told me I should be dead, I believe in the power of the mind. Laughter and loving.
    It costs nothing to think you are as healthy as you can be. I still juice twice a day,take my vitamins but I do now wallo in alternatives, I just take what I think I should take to stay as healthy for as long as I can, because I am to busy living a life.
    We all have to die one day, we do not know when our time is up. I could die of cancer, but I can also be hit by a car, I try not to think about it to much.

    So go out and work and have a normal healthy life Pete, this might be the best thing that ever happened to you, I know you can do it and you might even enjoy the chanlenges of every day. Meeting people who do not have cancer and talk to you about everyday things.

    Love your wife and kids with all that is in you. I will be your personal cheerleader.
    Go Pete Go!!!
    hugs, Marjan
  • janderson1964
    janderson1964 Member Posts: 2,215
    I hate to jump on the
    I hate to jump on the bashing Pete band wagon but you know i an into the alternatives but in a responsible manner. I never live beyond my means an have always worked for insurance and an income. We have a business as well that my wife runs. We could live off of that income alone but that would be selfish. BTW i do the laudry and dishes when i can as well as making my own lunch and dinner.
  • Annabelle41415
    Annabelle41415 Member Posts: 6,715 Member
    Wow
    After reading your blog about how many supplements you take that is a lot. Surely don't know how you could keep track of that many pills and see why you are having a big credit card bill. Hopefully you getting back to work you can pay that down and give your mind and body some new type of exercise and free yourself from all this worry. Sometimes, with especially as many pills as you take, that can keep reminding yourself of why you are doing it. It's good to be proactive though but golly that seems so confusing. Know you did a lot of research though. Hope you enjoy getting back to work, think it will be good for a change of pace.

    Kim
  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900
    thanks for the kind and critical comments
    Praise and bash away,

    the challenge of our cancer and our situations are all unique.

    Over the last 18 months i have shared mostly my alternative treatments, now some call them scams and others worthwhile treatments. Well i will just say I have "faith" in my alternatives and fully respect others with different opinions.

    Whats really caused the financial problem is not the supplements and the alternative therapies but my decision to see if my wife could run our business while i looked after the kids and focused on my healing. That meant alot business pressure was moved to her shoulders while I coped with kids and cancer pressures. At least on a day to day level. Of course background cancer pressure is with my wife and kids.

    I love my hippee alternative lifestyle, i could afford it if we disposed of assets, but we don't have agreement on that yet!. The hippee life, is just on hold! until I can do some business magic, If I still have it in me.

    My focus has been healing myself and caring for family, thats cooking the meals, buying the food, picking kids up, taking them to sport. i have been juggling that and my lifestyle treatments and my rising CEA is potentially stable at 47. It may or may not be active disease. Winter i hope you are correct, but from my extensive research cea get over 10 are due to crc. Thats why I am trying so dam hard to fight this illness early on with a range of alternatives when nothing is offered by conventional medicine.

    I am glad i have my meditation skills, my peaceful and joyful approach to cancer, to our potential short term financial hardship are all managable.

    The extensive range of well selected supplements have all been advised by my team of alternative doctors. that was the best advice i had at the time. I also researched their suggestions and went ahead.

    Maximum my supplements are costing $500 a week and that includes doctor consults, 3 lots of iv C and a massive load load "essential" supplements as i see it.

    So the budget for the year is only $60K.

    Whats really done us in is the financial downturn and our business and i guess my wife ability to cope with it.

    So I am doing my business in a very peaceful meditiative style, much different to the old days. My wife and I are working together peacefully, except she still wants things done her way, which i simply explain my reasons on the spot.

    We will be fine even if the business goes under, in someways it will be a relief.

    But my business was something i built up, that suits my skills and unfortunately not my wifes.

    Its a lovelly day, i have to dash peacefully to get my IV C, get into the city and then get back to pickup the kids.

    hugs,
    Pete
  • Lovekitties
    Lovekitties Member Posts: 3,364 Member

    thanks for the kind and critical comments
    Praise and bash away,

    the challenge of our cancer and our situations are all unique.

    Over the last 18 months i have shared mostly my alternative treatments, now some call them scams and others worthwhile treatments. Well i will just say I have "faith" in my alternatives and fully respect others with different opinions.

    Whats really caused the financial problem is not the supplements and the alternative therapies but my decision to see if my wife could run our business while i looked after the kids and focused on my healing. That meant alot business pressure was moved to her shoulders while I coped with kids and cancer pressures. At least on a day to day level. Of course background cancer pressure is with my wife and kids.

    I love my hippee alternative lifestyle, i could afford it if we disposed of assets, but we don't have agreement on that yet!. The hippee life, is just on hold! until I can do some business magic, If I still have it in me.

    My focus has been healing myself and caring for family, thats cooking the meals, buying the food, picking kids up, taking them to sport. i have been juggling that and my lifestyle treatments and my rising CEA is potentially stable at 47. It may or may not be active disease. Winter i hope you are correct, but from my extensive research cea get over 10 are due to crc. Thats why I am trying so dam hard to fight this illness early on with a range of alternatives when nothing is offered by conventional medicine.

    I am glad i have my meditation skills, my peaceful and joyful approach to cancer, to our potential short term financial hardship are all managable.

    The extensive range of well selected supplements have all been advised by my team of alternative doctors. that was the best advice i had at the time. I also researched their suggestions and went ahead.

    Maximum my supplements are costing $500 a week and that includes doctor consults, 3 lots of iv C and a massive load load "essential" supplements as i see it.

    So the budget for the year is only $60K.

    Whats really done us in is the financial downturn and our business and i guess my wife ability to cope with it.

    So I am doing my business in a very peaceful meditiative style, much different to the old days. My wife and I are working together peacefully, except she still wants things done her way, which i simply explain my reasons on the spot.

    We will be fine even if the business goes under, in someways it will be a relief.

    But my business was something i built up, that suits my skills and unfortunately not my wifes.

    Its a lovelly day, i have to dash peacefully to get my IV C, get into the city and then get back to pickup the kids.

    hugs,
    Pete

    Clarify please
    OK Pete, I know I should probably just leave this alone but I want to be sure I understand your thinking about your current situation:

    You wrote: “Whats really caused the financial problem is not the supplements and the alternative therapies but my decision to see if my wife could run our business while i looked after the kids and focused on my healing…
    Whats really done us in is the financial downturn and our business and i guess my wife ability to cope with it….
    But my business was something i built up, that suits my skills and unfortunately not my wifes…”

    Do you mean to say that your current financial situation is due to the fact that your wife has been running your business and has not been able to handle it adequately? Or is it possible you could not have done any better under the same circumstances? Or is it possible that you could have offered guidance to help her be more successful? Cash flow has become a problem for all in the world’s poor economic condition.

    You wrote: “Maximum my supplements are costing $500 a week and that includes doctor consults, 3 lots of iv C and a massive load load "essential" supplements as i see it.
    So the budget for the year is only $60K.”

    I take it that you mean this is your weekly cost NOW. Did the travel and expenses of the conferences you attended (one in Atlanta, GA, USA), retreats, specialized therapies, etc. over the last 18 months not contribute to your current debt? $500 per week for a year is only $26K…is the remaining $34K what you have allotted for these other activities? Or is your actual weekly cost $1,154 which would then equal the $60K per year?

    You wrote: “my rising CEA is potentially stable at 47. It may or may not be active disease. Winter i hope you are correct, but from my extensive research cea get over 10 are due to crc. Thats why I am trying so dam hard to fight this illness early on with a range of alternatives when nothing is offered by conventional medicine.”

    I understand that conventional medicine has not found any active cancer to explain the rise in CEA. I am uncertain if you have had full body scans or bone scans, but have to assume you have had the works to look for active disease. So, it isn’t that conventional medicine doesn’t have anything to offer…just that nothing has been found to treat. Have you considered that your CEA is rising while you are doing all the alts? It would seem to me that those are the things which are failing you, if as you say a CEA over 10 means CRC. Or is it possible that your body is reacting to an overload of alts, therefore causing the rise…which can also be attributed to infections and other things which are not CRC? There is truth to the adage that too much of a good thing can be bad for you. You have to admit that you have had numerous physical complaints while doing the various alts.

    I am really trying to understand what appears on the surface to be conflicting info.