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Forget diet and exercise, I lost 10 pounds the easy way!

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Helen321
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You too can lose the weight, unsightly cancer cells getting you down, sign up now to have them surgically removed! Choose rectal cancer and real food will be a thing of the past! You'll never want to see pasta leave your body that way again! It's all available now for only $10,000, sign up today!

Coppercent
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I had lunch with a friend yesterday and her two daughters are getting married soon. She went on weight watchers and has lost about 25 pounds. I asked her why she didn't advice me of her weight loss plan before because I have been on the rectal cancer weight loss program. I said I have lost more weight but I think her plan was cheaper.

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Helen321
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lol Thanks to insurance, otherwise, forget it, you'd have to sell a kidney or two. Oh wait, would they take kidneys from cancer patients? Surgery number one was 10 pounds. Coming up on surgery number two and doctor has warned me I'm likely to lose 15 or more this round. Losing 15 pounds, a woman's worst nightmare! lol Not. Now the pooping in a bag part,that I'd love to pass on (pun intended).

DannyMeeks
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I am almost six months past my surgery for rectal cancer. You are so right about losing the weight with cancer! lol I have lost about 40 lbs since October of 2011 when I was diagnosed. The first six days post surgery I ate nothing but ice chips. I have to admit that I kept the nurses running. After four days they offered me a liquid diet and I tried it...nothing doing. I sent it back and asked for more ice chips. You speak the truth about real food being a thing of the past. lol I am so tired of pasta! I was lucky...sorta. I do not have a bag but in return for that little favor I gave up part of my rectal reservoir. If the urge hits...well...let's just leave that subject alone in polite company! lol

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Helen321
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lol Remind me not to stand to close to you!

katenorwood
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Hello !
I don't have the same cancer...but the c-diet has gone through my head enough days where I chuckle at the weight loss commercials. Don't think many would sign up....this type of diet OMG...people would rethink their eating habits. Thanks for the humor ! Hope all is well ! Katie

akbrat
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Yeah, I too don't have the same cancer, but lost 30 lbs in the 6 months before my treatments began (from 180 to 150 lbs - call me 5 feet tall).

My nutritionist and doctors told me I needed try to maintain my weight.

Damn, this has been the easiest weight loss plan to date!!

Being diabetic, I had to laugh when they told me I would need to eat a lot of mashed potatoes, macaroni and cheese, and white bread. I was like, "What? Are you trying to kill me? Took me 2 years to get all that junk OUT of my diet and now you want me to eat it again?"

Sure do wish we could market this plan, but as you say, I don't think many would sign up!

AKBrat

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abrub
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my daughter chose another great way to lose weight: dysentery! (She was living in India.)

We often joked about the mother-daughter diet plans - cancer and dysentery, quick, and you don't have to think about it. The weight just comes off!

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after I had 3 liters of fluid (ascites) drained from my abdomen.
Lost another 10 lbs after the first chemo round.

Eat your heart out Jenny Craig!

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Helen321
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I really wish this site had a like button! I think it would be so much more pleasant=)

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Helen321
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oops

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ooops

NJZ62
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Hi Alexandra,

I've been looking for someone who has had some experience with ascites and saw your post.

I just had 2 liters of fluid drained, and it definitely helped, but I'm still somewhat bloated and legs, feet pretty swollen. I was glad to see that you said the ascites improved with chemo - I just had my first round last week so probably too early to see much change.

Love the posts about "cancer diets" - all my life I've struggled with losing weight - now, not so much!

Hope you are doing well with your treatments.

Nancy

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debrajo
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I must be doing something wrong??? I GAINED 30, no fluid,no loss of taste, no up-set tummy...sigh! I want my money back! debrajo

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shinning_like_me
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too good to loose that weight lol

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I lost nearly 30 pounds while in treatment last year.  Whenever I run into someone I haven't seen in a couple years, I am told how great I look.  I laugh and tell them I was on this amazing diet that took no will power at all.

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Helen321
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lol Two years later, I wish I could just keep it off.  It's not a good way to lose weight and it's horrible knowing you put it back on.  Too funny that people tell us we "look great", if they only knew!

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Hondo
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I got NPC in 2002 back then I was 225lbs and a hunk of a man. Now after being treated twice because I was not satisfied the first time, I am 140lbs. It is a blessing because I can go outside and if the wind is blowing hard I can tie a string on me and fly like a kite. The best part of keeping the weight off is living on the PEG tube, because they did a great job on my tongue to where I can’t swallow anymore. All in all I am happy to still be here and to be a part of my grandchildren lives.

 

God Bless

Tim Hondo

Ray_D
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I had been trying to drop a few pounds for years but my job was too sedentary. I got esophageal cancer and went from 220 to 170. I can't over eat because I have half of a stomach- the other half became a new esophagus. I have never felt better. Best weight control program out there.

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My mother had radiation, two cancer surgeries, chemo, and one heck of a weight loss.  While she was recovering, she realized with horror that she truly had almost nothing to wear that wasn't PJs or robes.  So she asked me to please clear out her closet, donate her clothes to the local church's thrift shop, and while I was there, get her some new outfits. 

So, off I went with a car full of very nice clothes.  The thrift shop women were delighted, confiding that they loved it when people lost or gained a lot of weight and cleared out their closets.  I was armed with a tape measure (we'd measured her to figure out what size she now was), I started pulling out clothes and measuring them, making outfits, looking for things in her favorite colors and fabrics.  The store clerks really got into the act, helping me to find ensembles, suggesting accessories, etc.  We were having a blast.  Finally one of the women stopped and asked, "I've GOT to know.  What was your mother's secret to lose all that weight?!"  "Cancer," I said, sweetly.  She stared at me for a bit, shocked. "Nevermind," she finally replied, "Have you considered the lovely fuscia boucle?"

V.diane49
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i can relate with the loss of weight From treatments.  In probably 4 or 5 months I lost 40 pounds.  Nothing fit!   Gave away all my clothes and then started shopping at Goodwill and thrift stores.   Besides the weight loss I had another problem that makes my wardrobe a little more challenging.  My stupid surgeon gave me a stomp right at the waist line, could no longer wear pants that had a waist band.  My solution that is working out great is maternity pants.   I got some strange looks when I was shopping for maternity pants For me at age 67.  

Kamushka
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I'm probably the only one who can have body parts removed...lose all her hair ...have no appetite and suffer from diarrhea and GAIN WEIGHT from those darn steroids! 

SlowGardener
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My hunch is that people eating a typical North American or Western-World diet of processed foods and high carbs and sugars are gaining weight even as they are losing lean muscle mass and having organ damage from the chemo.  Also, the corticosteroids used in chemo to protect you from the inflamation and damage caused by the "poison" can cause edema and high blood sugar as in diabetes.   THEN, things taste awful during chemotherapy, and most of us are used to throwing sugar or a sugary sauce, starchy gravy or something similar onto our foods to make it taste better -- only --  nothing is going to make food really taste better.  A couple of times I have put tablespoons of sugar into my coffee trying to make it taste "right" and finally decided to go back to no sugar in my coffee.  But it is easy to fall back on bad habits or have people cook for us to try to make things better with starches and sugars.    And the corticosteroids make us crave sugars and carbs.   JMHO.

CONFESSION:  my favorite food right now is a real egg custard made with eggs, half-and-half or cream, and a little sugar and salt,  steamed in my Insta-Pot -- although I have made this many times in a open casserole dish in a water bath (large pan with water in it, then the casserole in it) in the oven.   Egg custard gives you all the nutrients you need -- including protein.   If you want to thicken or firm the custard, you use more eggs and/or mix powdered milk into the liquids before cooking.   MUCH more nutritious than the corn-starch custards and instant puddings we are used to buying in the supermarket.  Egg custard is easy, and by making it from scratch at home, can decrease the sugar in the recipe, or even make a savory version -- which is like quiche.  Actually, quiche is a fancy savory egg custard!

Long before I was diagnosed with cancer,   I was treated, repeatedly, with corticosteroids (like prednisone and dexamethazone) for other conditions, and suddenly gained huge amounts of weight from water retention alone,  with an insatiable craving for foods -- especially sugars and starches.  Have fluctuated by 70-90 lbs this way -- and nothing much to be done about it.  If I went two years without any corticosteroids, the puffiness under the skin would go away, and people would beg me for my diet advice -- thinking I had suddenly lost a ton of weight (those last puffy bits under my skin were only about 10 lbs but looked like 40).    But when I was sick, I might go to the ER on a Friday and on Monday I would return to work many pounds heavier, puffier from water retention under my skin, and people would look at me strangely and think I had eaten a horse over the weekend! They would suddenly start giving me diet advice!

I learned as a young adult that appearances were deceiving, people and doctors could make snap judments that were wrong, and "common sense" wasn't so common.

  I never knew how the corticosteroids would affect me - -because sometimes they did not affect me so badly, and sometimes I would get stretchmarks and immediately look like the Pillsbury Doughboy or a blimp.    My skin would be so painful!   Everything would be more painful.   I'm now 57 and have become diabetic -- not just a little carb-sensitive.  Chemo and corticosteroids by IV can make my blood sugars go up.

With this history, when I went on the chemotherapy, I asked my oncologist to use the smallest amount of corticosteroids (dexamethazone).  Then was losing 5-6 pounds a week and the nausea became unbearable.  My oncologist gave me dexamethazone pills for the nausea so I could taper and control the dose -- and I blew up with edema. Also saw higher blood sugars.  Now we go with the lowest amount of dexamethasone that I can take, and other anti-nausea treatments.  

I moved all the sugars, starches, cake mixes and cookies to the top shelves in my kitchen so that I would have to think a moment before I ate them. That's important when feeling the euphoria of IV doses of corticosteroids like dexamethazone!  You become more impulsive and easily distracted. 

I plan to eat fewer carbs -- even throw away the bread and eat the insides of a sandwich.  I might eat just a bite of the bread for the pleasure of it, but just a bite.

I was advised by thoughtful doctors to drink tons of water -- I have an app that I set for up to 12 glasses of water a day -- I try to get at least 8 glasses of fluid of some sort into me no matter what.  Believe it or not --  water can wash out corticosteroids, excess chemo and other poisons, and break-down products from your body and reduce edema.  Try it.   I wear incontinence pants in case I can't make it to the bathroom fast enough.   But I have much less edema -- sometimes no edema -- and feel better.

Prior to being diagnosed on cancer, I, too, got most of the carbs and sugars out of my diet (not all -- I still occasionally eat cookies or toast, and have an amazing amount of carbs in my kitchen that I moved to the top shelf so that I can't reach for them so easily, and have to think about it before I eat them).

Without the sugars and carbs,  and being picky about eating because of chemo, I can still lose 6 lbs a week.   I had a medical complication and my oncologist said to skip a treatment, and another specialist was concerned that I looked like I had lost more muscle and weight, so I took protein shakes and a lof of half-and-half cream -- and gained nine pounds in a weak.  I'm also doing exercises to try to maintain my lean body mass.   Ideally I would eat enough calories and nutrients to maintain and hold onto as much healthy body weight and to heal somewhat as I do chemo.   

Friends who have maintained good health for decades while being diabetic, recommend nutrient-dense foods like meat, eggs, with vegetables, nuts and berries as the main parts of the diet.  They are type I and type II diabetes patients who measure their carbs and then counter them with an exactly measured amount of insulin - they have to be careful to keep themselves so healthy.   They've recommended fats (minimally processed butter, cream, cheeses)  for calories.  People only started eating white flour, processed pasta and white sugar by the pound in the 20th century, and human population health has deteriorated ever since.   So I have the half-and-half and protein shakes as a backup to make sure I maintain as much of my lean-muscle body mass and some weight as I go through this.   I'm also trying vitamins and supplements, although I am a skeptic and I'm not going to go into that here (I may be wrong, really wrong, but I'm trying things that are also low carb but supposed to help energy and immune function). 

I don't know what the ideal diet  is -- but it is NOT what the USDA dietary recommendations allow -- most people become carb-sensitive or diabetic on chemo (whether or not it is recognized or treated or treatable).   I have had roommates who thrived on vegetarian diets, and others (including myself) thrive on dairy and meat.  Different people have different metabolisms and needs (this is a scientific fact -- people from different regions and sub-regions of the world thrive on vastly different foods).    I think that more "real" food -- less processed - - and less sugar is a good idea.  I have never been able to stop all carbs and sugar, but find that I have less edema and fat gain when I reduce them in daily life. Nothing is a forbidden food, so I don't crave and fuss and dream about foods --- just sample a little of this and that. It becomes really important with CHEMO when everything tastes different and NOTHING tastes good. 

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