aspirin and tumeric i am giving both a try, remember study about tumeric and folfox.

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pete43lost_at_sea
pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900 Member
edited December 2011 in Colorectal Cancer #1
READ THE BOTTOM POST, I HAVE ALSO BEEN A WILLOWBARK WHICH IS EQUIVALENT TO ASPIRIN ANYWAY

if i die from some weird interaction at least the crc did not get me.

we talked about aspirin and tumeric a while ago below.
http://csn.cancer.org/node/214539
note the study indicating tumeric potentiates folfox, of not a large double blind clinical study, but well i found it interesting. i tried it and am still here! at the moment.

so today i found an amazing pharmacist, who measured my INR which is how fast your blood clots. mine was 1.1 i will measure again after 2 weeks of taking aspirin for the purpose of
crc recurrence prevention. i am on 16 gram a day of bio active tumeric, about to move to the sr version which slow release.

anyone else doing aspirin for this purpose ?

i had my first low dose aspirin today 100mg, i am still here.

at least i have a way of measuring how much my blood is thinned.

hugs,
pete


http://labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/pt/tab/test
from above link, info about INR, note the vit k issues

What does the test result mean?


The test result for PT depends on the method used, with results measured in seconds and compared to the average value in healthy people. Most laboratories report PT results that have been adjusted to the International Normalized Ratio (INR) for patients on anticoagulant drugs. These patients should have an INR of 2.0 to 3.0 for basic "blood-thinning" needs. For some patients who have a high risk of clot formation, the INR needs to be higher - about 2.5 to 3.5. Your doctor will use the INR to adjust your drug to get the PT into the range that is right for you.

If you are not taking anti-coagulant drugs and your PT is prolonged, additional testing may be necessary to determine the cause. A prolonged, or increased, PT means that your blood is taking too long to form a clot. This may be caused by conditions such as liver disease, vitamin K deficiency or a coagulation factor deficiency. Result of the PT is often interpreted with that of the PTT in determining what condition may be present.

Interpretation of PT and PTT in Patients with a Bleeding or Clotting Syndrome
PT RESULT PTT RESULT COMMON CONDITION PRESENT
Prolonged Normal Liver disease, decreased vitamin K, decreased or defective factor VII
Normal Prolonged Decreased or defective factor VIII, IX, or XI, von Willebrand disease, or lupus anticoagulant present
Prolonged Prolonged Decreased or defective factor I, II, V or X, severe liver disease, disseminated intravascular coagulation (DIC)
Normal Normal or slightly prolonged
May indicate normal hemostasis; however PT and PTT can be normal in conditions such as mild deficiencies in other factors and mild form of von Willebrand disease. Further testing may be required to diagnose these conditions.
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Is there anything else I should know?
Some substances you consume, such as alcohol, can affect the PT/INR test. Some antibiotics can increase the PT/INR. Barbiturates, oral contraceptives and hormone-replacement therapy (HRT), and vitamin K - either in a multivitamin or liquid nutrition supplement - can decrease PT. Certain foods (such as beef and pork liver, green tea, broccoli, chickpeas, kale, turnip greens, and soybean products) contain large amounts of vitamin K and can alter PT results. Make sure that your doctor knows all the drugs you are taking and if you have eaten any of these foods recently so that your PT/INR results are interpreted and used correctly.



ps last post for today, just a busy day on the research side of things.

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  • jasminsaba
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    Turmeric supplement ...
    Pete - I'm intrigued by your regimen. My mom has been taking Turmeric supplements from onset of her diagnosis although I didn't know about the potential impact of it on FOLFOX ... I guess that's just added bonus at this point.

    So, she takes 5000 IU Vitamin D3 and Turmeric force (supplement) by NewChapter. Both have been cleared by her oncologist. I am interested in learning about the Bioactive Turmeric supplement that you're taking ... would you mind sharing more info with me about that?

    Thanks, Jasmine.
  • smokeyjoe
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    Turmeric supplement ...
    Pete - I'm intrigued by your regimen. My mom has been taking Turmeric supplements from onset of her diagnosis although I didn't know about the potential impact of it on FOLFOX ... I guess that's just added bonus at this point.

    So, she takes 5000 IU Vitamin D3 and Turmeric force (supplement) by NewChapter. Both have been cleared by her oncologist. I am interested in learning about the Bioactive Turmeric supplement that you're taking ... would you mind sharing more info with me about that?

    Thanks, Jasmine.

    Hey Pete, since your in
    Hey Pete, since your in research mode check out the protective effects cimetidine had on protecting the stomach from the irritation you can get from low dose aspirin.
  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900 Member
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    smokeyjoe said:

    Hey Pete, since your in
    Hey Pete, since your in research mode check out the protective effects cimetidine had on protecting the stomach from the irritation you can get from low dose aspirin.

    thanks jo, been off and on cimetidine
    am back on it. i'll look up the protective benefits.
    hugs,
    pete
  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900 Member
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    Turmeric supplement ...
    Pete - I'm intrigued by your regimen. My mom has been taking Turmeric supplements from onset of her diagnosis although I didn't know about the potential impact of it on FOLFOX ... I guess that's just added bonus at this point.

    So, she takes 5000 IU Vitamin D3 and Turmeric force (supplement) by NewChapter. Both have been cleared by her oncologist. I am interested in learning about the Bioactive Turmeric supplement that you're taking ... would you mind sharing more info with me about that?

    Thanks, Jasmine.

    jasmine
    your mum sounds like she has a good onc.
    checkout my blog petertrayhurn.blogspot.com
    i don't want to put the products i use here.
    its a slow release i got from iberb, but tumeric i currently use is metagenics.
    hugs,
    pete
    ps i think the 5000 d3 is good, have you checked your mum bloods. my levle is 209 nmol/L
  • jasminsaba
    jasminsaba Member Posts: 157 Member
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    jasmine
    your mum sounds like she has a good onc.
    checkout my blog petertrayhurn.blogspot.com
    i don't want to put the products i use here.
    its a slow release i got from iberb, but tumeric i currently use is metagenics.
    hugs,
    pete
    ps i think the 5000 d3 is good, have you checked your mum bloods. my levle is 209 nmol/L

    Thank you ...
    for referring me to your blog ... got the info I needed. Looks like you and I like some of the same brands.

    I have read a lot about the link between D3 and colon cancer - seems to (potentially) positively impact outcome/prognosis. I've actually started taking a lower daily dose myself - figured a strong immune system is a MUST for everyone.
  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900 Member
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    Thank you ...
    for referring me to your blog ... got the info I needed. Looks like you and I like some of the same brands.

    I have read a lot about the link between D3 and colon cancer - seems to (potentially) positively impact outcome/prognosis. I've actually started taking a lower daily dose myself - figured a strong immune system is a MUST for everyone.

    you are the first to look at it
    hugs,
    pete

    all these supplements have promise, i wish we had more elegant solutions. see my post on ctc's. post away of all your d3 and colon research. i haave also read lots and posted a bit, its good reinforcement an d new studies are coming out all the time.

    congrats on being interested and informed. my wish is the best health to you , me and all of us here, that we can obtain with god's grace and a bit of elbow grease. maybe working together we can achieve more. thats an interesting thought.

    waiting to die just ain't my cup of tea, i prefer tcm tea
  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900 Member
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    you got to laugh about this
    Willow bark
    Overview:

    The use of willow bark dates back thousands of years, to the time of Hippocrates (400 BC) when patients were advised to chew on the bark to reduce fever and inflammation. Willow bark has been used throughout the centuries in China and Europe, and continues to be used today for the treatment of pain (particularly low back pain and osteoarthritis), headache, and inflammatory conditions, such as bursitis and tendinitis. The bark of white willow contains salicin, which is a chemical similar to aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid). It is thought to be responsible for the pain relieving and anti-inflammatory effects of the herb. In fact, in the 1800s, salicin was used to develop aspirin. White willow appears to bring pain relief more slowly than aspirin, but its effects may last longer.

    been on metagenics inflavonoid intensive care ( not cheap ) but has lots of goodies.
    well i never realised willow bark is equivalent to aspirin anyway. so i have been on aspirin effectively.

    its tricky keeping track of all the ingredients of all the supplements, so my 4 tablets a day gives me 6grams willowbark, if this equates to 100mg aspirin well i don't know. i am just glad i have a new friend, a pharmacist who had crc himself and he can advise me precisely about the interaction of supplements and prescrption medicines.

    if you cannot see the humour here, thats ok. i do.

    i have effectively been on low dose aspirin for the last year without realising until today. thats good news i think. given blakes suggestion a few weeks ago. all the best blake and thanks again your questions always bring out the best in my research.

    hugs,
    pete