I didn't go crazy

herdizziness
herdizziness Member Posts: 3,624 Member
edited September 2011 in Colorectal Cancer #1
When diagnosed 0ne year and 7 months ago, I didn't go crazy and hit every diet or herb craze that was suggested. Guess I was in too much shock, you have 2 weeks at the outside if you do nothing my onc told me,4 to 6 months with chemotherapy, no possibility of surgery. Gave stuff away, cars, things that meant the world to me to those that meant the world to me.
Had the attitude, well, going to die, going to enjoy every moment. And I have to the best of my ability.
Ate every steak that passed my way, hello Vitamin D Whole milk... love you!!! Threw in a vegetable or two to make my BRAIN feel better that I was doing what the healthnuts (OMGosh, no one that is into um, whatever you call it, please don't take offense, I live in Santa Cruz, what many that live here call the Vegan/Hippie Capital of the world, (by Hippie, Santa Cruz is lost in the 60's, surfers and hippies went together well back then) so thinking of my surrounding community, and not anyone on this board) would recommend.
Did my chemo, it was suggested by knowledgeable nurses and such that I should go for quality and not quantity and not do the chemo. But hey, I had three grandsons, a new one on the way, two children in college, and I wanted quantity, after all, I'm me, hello???? I will spend every possible moment building memories for my grandchildren to carry with them of their Grandma, before I will lay down and die.
I wish I could say that I had an epiphany, that the Gods said, quit your meat, quit your drink, don't smoke, give up that whole milk and you shall survive.
But I received no such divine intervention and continued my heathen ways.
One year and seven months later I'm still here, what or who do I blame for this??? (according to some ex-husbands it should be BLAME, so I'm going with it) I blame my chemo, I blame myself for fighting two tumor boards that turned me down and going for a third with my onc which succeeded, I blame my family for encouraging me, I blame my daughter that refused to let me die so she could inherit NOTHING, I blame my son for cooking for me, for microwaving my water to lukewarm so I could drink it after my Oxi, I blame my onc for finding the regime that I could follow that shrunk those b@stard tumors (Canadian/Great Britain translation "tumour").
So in the end, I only curse cancer, I curse that there isn't a "cure" for our cancer.
I remain sane for the moment, and even doubt that, I wonder often if I'm depressed, I have so much to be thankful for, but as those that I cherish such friendships of, have passed away, then my heart lowers in my chest, it feels so heavy, and those whose friendship I cherish who struggle day after day, after day, I weep, for they struggle ever so hard, my heart is not only heavy, but my tears fall in such succession, that I feel at times I may never smile again.
I despise cancer, and so far I think cancer hasn't made me quite insane, but I wonder.
Winter Marie
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  • rogina2336
    rogina2336 Member Posts: 188
    Enjoyed reading your post.
    Enjoyed reading your post. You are a true inspiration to this board. Hopes and Prayers. Kim
  • John23
    John23 Member Posts: 2,122 Member
    WOW !!
    WOW !!

    Ok, my turn?

    I blame the physicians, surgeons, and oncologists, who -all-
    told me that I had about two (maybe two and a half) years,
    but -only- if I do the largest amount of the most powerful doses
    of chemotherapy, and that I must begin the treatments as soon
    as possible after surgery or face immanent death.

    I am thankful that they informed me that without modern medicine,
    I would have absolutely no chance whatsoever, of seeing very
    much more of what life has to offer.

    I hate the route I took; the herbal broths that tasted so bad,
    and all the neurological suffering that I did not have to endure!

    I hate not being part of the group that the physicians tried so
    hard to make me part of; I miss it all!

    I have missed so, so much since my diagnosis of stage 3c/4
    colon cancer back in 2006..... I truly miss the pain, and all
    the things my physicians said "might" be side effects of the
    proposed treatments that can often last longer than the cancer
    they attempt to treat.

    I miss it. And I wish I didn't dare to take a route they said
    would not work. I am sorry that I dared to choose a different
    health science; one that was nearly opposite of the most modern,
    life-saving science those physicians suggested.

    I'm not sorry that I'm still here though, in spite of my foolishness.

    "Different strokes for different folks".

    Good health to all!

    John
  • laurettas
    laurettas Member Posts: 372
    Thank you so much, Winter
    Thank you so much, Winter Marie, for sharing your story. You have touched me deeply with your passion.

    We, like you, are eating normally. The onc said lots of protein so that is what we do and for us that is primarily meat. My husband says that meat sets well in his stomach, better than many things. Has found out that chocolate doesn't agree with him and a few other things so we avoid those. He was wanting something to quell the bad taste in his mouth yesterday and I had read that ginger was good for that. He had some capsules from a previous digestive issue, took one, and ended up throwing up. The only time he has thrown up since he started chemo. Seems like so many of the natural aids just do not agree with him--echinacea makes him really sick. So we just bumble along, eating like the farmers have for centuries and hope that all goes well.

    I, too, am developing such an intense hatred for this horrible disease. I have had to watch too many people that I love deal with this for most of my life and I hate it! I have to admit as well that I don't like the treatment much either. I KNOW that there has to be a way to treat cancer that is not so devastating to to whole person. There must be things that are unique to cancer that can be targeted and attacked, rather than killing so many healthy cells.

    I certainly hope that there isn't a "conspiracy" out there keeping the proper treatment from being developed as many claim. It is a disease that takes so many lives throughout the world--almost two million a year in China alone and half a million in the US. We have never had a war that took so many lives and yet we as a country contribute little to finding a cure. Five billion a year to research a disease that kills half a million people each year while we spend three billion a year on AIDS research that kills 17,000 a year. I have to wonder at our priorities sometimes.

    Sorry for ranting on your thread but you touched me deeply this morning!
  • John23
    John23 Member Posts: 2,122 Member
    Cancer rates: see how countries compare worldwide
    Cancer rates: see how countries compare worldwide

    Data summary

    Death from cancer (most recent) by country

    Mortality stats: China vs United States


    Does it really matter?

    The issues should be: What works best to stifle cancer, while
    doing as little damage to us overall.

    "You shouldn't have to drop a nuclear bomb on your front lawn to kill some crabgrass"

    Best hopes for all,

    John
  • relaxoutdoors08
    relaxoutdoors08 Member Posts: 521 Member
    laurettas said:

    Thank you so much, Winter
    Thank you so much, Winter Marie, for sharing your story. You have touched me deeply with your passion.

    We, like you, are eating normally. The onc said lots of protein so that is what we do and for us that is primarily meat. My husband says that meat sets well in his stomach, better than many things. Has found out that chocolate doesn't agree with him and a few other things so we avoid those. He was wanting something to quell the bad taste in his mouth yesterday and I had read that ginger was good for that. He had some capsules from a previous digestive issue, took one, and ended up throwing up. The only time he has thrown up since he started chemo. Seems like so many of the natural aids just do not agree with him--echinacea makes him really sick. So we just bumble along, eating like the farmers have for centuries and hope that all goes well.

    I, too, am developing such an intense hatred for this horrible disease. I have had to watch too many people that I love deal with this for most of my life and I hate it! I have to admit as well that I don't like the treatment much either. I KNOW that there has to be a way to treat cancer that is not so devastating to to whole person. There must be things that are unique to cancer that can be targeted and attacked, rather than killing so many healthy cells.

    I certainly hope that there isn't a "conspiracy" out there keeping the proper treatment from being developed as many claim. It is a disease that takes so many lives throughout the world--almost two million a year in China alone and half a million in the US. We have never had a war that took so many lives and yet we as a country contribute little to finding a cure. Five billion a year to research a disease that kills half a million people each year while we spend three billion a year on AIDS research that kills 17,000 a year. I have to wonder at our priorities sometimes.

    Sorry for ranting on your thread but you touched me deeply this morning!

    AGREE AGREE AGREE
    Well said all of you. We need to divert our attention to Cancer and make WAR ON CANCER our priority.
    NB
  • Sundanceh
    Sundanceh Member Posts: 4,392 Member
    Excerpt From Chapter XIII
    One Year and Seven Months ago, I recall a friend of mine, who had a shade of bitterness and anger and asked us all succintly one morning, "why do we blow smoke up people's @$$ here on the board?"

    Aahhh....where is that gal now?

    Yours is an incredible turnabout of events from nothing - to something. Kudos to you on the success you've experienced. I know you hate cancer and hate what it does for all of us out there.

    Whether you realize it or not, you have experienced Awareness - Enlightenment - Empowerment - and Personal Growth. You may not see it, but in the last One Year - Seven Months...I have:)

    So, I offer you this excerpt from my latest chapter (still in progress).

    Chapter XIII - "The Four Horseman"

    Awareness acts as the compass that points us towards the path that we will have to travel tomorrow, armed with the knowledge that we gained from the road we walked down yesterday.

    Awareness doesn’t force himself on you – rather, he is that gentle soul, who taps you lightly on the shoulder and imparts his knowledge by whispering softly in your ear like a rhythmic melody that mimics the sounds of a slow, trickling brook.

    Awareness comes to us in his own time, but on our terms. He seems to have the uncanny ability to recognize when each of us is ready to get to know him. When you least expect it, you awake one morning and find that he is not only with you, but has also become a part of you.

    BREAK

    Enlightenment can also announce its arrival with a bolt of lightning and a clap of thunder that carries the message of ‘that’, which we have been searching for. It comes crashing over you with a sudden intensity that can only be described as an epiphany, as the waves of awareness – understanding – and acceptance wash over you.

    BREAK

    Empowerment is that swelling of pride in your chest that comes from the satisfaction that you feel when you stare down your fears without being afraid of what you will see, even when the odds look stacked against you.

    BREAK

    Personal Growth’s biggest accomplishment is getting us to a stage in our life where we now unselfishly think of other’s needs, rather than solely focusing on our own. Its truest gift comes from one heart reaching out to another and establishing that human connection, which in turn helps us to become a little bit more of a person than we were yesterday – and offers us the hope of becoming an even better person for tomorrow.

    BREAK

    It’s a beautiful process to see someone grow right before your eyes, isn’t it? I’ve seen them come to the cancer board time and time again. Initially, they arrive frightened and scared about their futures and what cancer really means for them, beyond the stereotypes that they’ve been taught to expect.

    Over time, you watch them acquiring the knowledge they need as they take those first steps into their treatment programs and surgeries. You see how their attitudes begin to change as time goes by. It starts out slowly at first, and then gradually becomes bolder as they gain the confidence they need to be able to stand on their own.

    As you watch from the sidelines like a proud parent, you see a stronger person emerge, like a butterfly does from a c o c o o n Gone is the scared, uninformed person whom you met in the beginning – in their place instead, is a wiser, more determined person, because of the experience they went through and the belief they gained in themselves for having stood up and accomplished what they originally thought was impossible to do on their own.

    BREAK

    On the flip-side, enlightenment has also showed me ‘the dark side’ of the fight. The side that shows us the danger and damage that the treatments do to our bodies – the side that shows us that our treatments of choice may inevitably fail us at some point – the side that shows us that our friends and loved ones can pass away, despite the best of intentions – and the side that shows us the harsh reality that we may not all come out on the good side of our fights.

    Enlightenment is the truth and the way that shows us both sides of how things operate, because we can’t learn only the good, and not see the bad as well. For the knowledge that comes from enlightenment doesn’t discriminate - it educates.

    BREAK

    “The Road to Awareness leads to the Path of Enlightenment, which takes us down the Trail of Empowerment, where we finally reach our destination in The Land of Personal Growth.”

    It can be a very long and winding road at times. You certainly won’t get there overnight. It’s taken me seven plus years now of self-discovery to find these out for myself. It’s going to take some time, some experience, and some pain and suffering, in order to fully understand what it is that I’m trying to tell you.

    You can’t get to the land of personal growth through any shortcuts – it has to be earned, if you are too fully appreciate the changes that have taken place inside you. And the only way that you get there is to just keep taking those next steps and keep your mind open to seeing some of the good that can come out of cancer, when you step back and look at where you were then – and what you’ve become now.

    Remember, at the start of the book, where I told you that we could take one of two paths when we are diagnosed? We could take the road of Bitterness and Resentment or we could walk along the path of Grace and Dignity?

    BREAK

    a post one day that was titled, “Has Cancer Been All Bad for You?” There were a variety of mixed responses, but most of them were overwhelmingly bitter and resentful. As I recall, the majority of posters who held those negative feelings were from caregivers, who had lost their spouse, or from family members who had lost a loved one.

    From their perspective, I can certainly understand and see how they felt the way they did. They watched someone very close to them suffer for a long time and then ultimately pass away right in front of them. That feeling of being helpless and unable to change the outcome has got to weigh heavily on a person’s mind when there is nothing they can do to help their loved ones.

    What surprised me more were the negative responses from the posters, who had cancer. There were a lot of ‘I Hate Cancer’ and ‘I Give Cancer No Credit’ responses as well as the ‘Nothing Good Comes From Cancer’ replies.

    Of course, everyone has the right to feel they way they do about their cancer, because it’s theirs. That’s the way that they feel about it and I think it’s important to acknowledge and respect their feelings on the subject. There is certainly a whole host of unresolved anger and bitterness issues underneath all of those statements though.

    For me, I see Cancer from a different viewpoint though.

    First, I’d like to say that I don’t like what cancer has done to me physically and the compromises and concessions that I’ve had to make that go along with all of that. It’s definitely taken its toll and made me less of a man than I was before all of this started. I feel like a shell of the man that I once used to be.

    I’m not fond of knowing that cancer is trying its damnedest to blow out my candle and dim my world earlier than I had planned or anticipated.

    I dislike the fact that the specter of cancer always looms on the horizon and invades my thoughts, even when I’m in that ‘watch and wait’ state and should be trying to enjoy my victories. Or, that it haunts my dreams and taunts me with its ever-present threat of another recurrence for my future.

    I’m not thrilled with the prospect of knowing that cancer will more than likely end up claiming me at some point of my journey, despite all of my best efforts, stubbornness and tenacity.

    I know that given a choice, that none of us would choose to have cancer in our lives in any way - shape, form or fashion. I guess, you could include me in that list, as well. It is a “Country Club That Nobody Wants to Join.” And for those of us that do qualify, we find that the membership dues are one hell of a price to pay for admission.

    It doesn’t change the facts one iota, though. We do have cancer and how we choose to go forward is ‘our decision’ and whether we’re angry or resolved to the fact, the meter is running and it’s going to run out, whether we have cancer or not.

    It’s how we represent ourselves and show the world that we can still bring a little grace and dignity to a seemingly grim situation. It’s showing the world that the human spirit can never be squelched, but that we live on and strive for more – even in the face of such adversity.

    More importantly though, is not what people think of us, or how we portray ourselves to them and our loved ones. It comes down to what each one of us can live with when we lay our heads down on our pillows every night.

    Anger and Bitterness will consume us just as surely as the cancer will. And if we give in to that, then cancer ends up taking it all from us – and we even furthered its cause by the way we reacted and handled this quandary, when the spotlight was finally shined on us.

    BREAK

    Folks get inspiration from watching how you conduct yourself during the most difficult trial in your life and draw a sense of comfort and contentment from what they see through your living testimony.

    BREAK

    Maybe, it's me that's finally gone insane:) Thought you might enjoy taking a peek at the work in progress, Winter. I see some of you in what I wrote.

    Love/Craig
  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member
    Sundanceh said:

    Excerpt From Chapter XIII
    One Year and Seven Months ago, I recall a friend of mine, who had a shade of bitterness and anger and asked us all succintly one morning, "why do we blow smoke up people's @$$ here on the board?"

    Aahhh....where is that gal now?

    Yours is an incredible turnabout of events from nothing - to something. Kudos to you on the success you've experienced. I know you hate cancer and hate what it does for all of us out there.

    Whether you realize it or not, you have experienced Awareness - Enlightenment - Empowerment - and Personal Growth. You may not see it, but in the last One Year - Seven Months...I have:)

    So, I offer you this excerpt from my latest chapter (still in progress).

    Chapter XIII - "The Four Horseman"

    Awareness acts as the compass that points us towards the path that we will have to travel tomorrow, armed with the knowledge that we gained from the road we walked down yesterday.

    Awareness doesn’t force himself on you – rather, he is that gentle soul, who taps you lightly on the shoulder and imparts his knowledge by whispering softly in your ear like a rhythmic melody that mimics the sounds of a slow, trickling brook.

    Awareness comes to us in his own time, but on our terms. He seems to have the uncanny ability to recognize when each of us is ready to get to know him. When you least expect it, you awake one morning and find that he is not only with you, but has also become a part of you.

    BREAK

    Enlightenment can also announce its arrival with a bolt of lightning and a clap of thunder that carries the message of ‘that’, which we have been searching for. It comes crashing over you with a sudden intensity that can only be described as an epiphany, as the waves of awareness – understanding – and acceptance wash over you.

    BREAK

    Empowerment is that swelling of pride in your chest that comes from the satisfaction that you feel when you stare down your fears without being afraid of what you will see, even when the odds look stacked against you.

    BREAK

    Personal Growth’s biggest accomplishment is getting us to a stage in our life where we now unselfishly think of other’s needs, rather than solely focusing on our own. Its truest gift comes from one heart reaching out to another and establishing that human connection, which in turn helps us to become a little bit more of a person than we were yesterday – and offers us the hope of becoming an even better person for tomorrow.

    BREAK

    It’s a beautiful process to see someone grow right before your eyes, isn’t it? I’ve seen them come to the cancer board time and time again. Initially, they arrive frightened and scared about their futures and what cancer really means for them, beyond the stereotypes that they’ve been taught to expect.

    Over time, you watch them acquiring the knowledge they need as they take those first steps into their treatment programs and surgeries. You see how their attitudes begin to change as time goes by. It starts out slowly at first, and then gradually becomes bolder as they gain the confidence they need to be able to stand on their own.

    As you watch from the sidelines like a proud parent, you see a stronger person emerge, like a butterfly does from a c o c o o n Gone is the scared, uninformed person whom you met in the beginning – in their place instead, is a wiser, more determined person, because of the experience they went through and the belief they gained in themselves for having stood up and accomplished what they originally thought was impossible to do on their own.

    BREAK

    On the flip-side, enlightenment has also showed me ‘the dark side’ of the fight. The side that shows us the danger and damage that the treatments do to our bodies – the side that shows us that our treatments of choice may inevitably fail us at some point – the side that shows us that our friends and loved ones can pass away, despite the best of intentions – and the side that shows us the harsh reality that we may not all come out on the good side of our fights.

    Enlightenment is the truth and the way that shows us both sides of how things operate, because we can’t learn only the good, and not see the bad as well. For the knowledge that comes from enlightenment doesn’t discriminate - it educates.

    BREAK

    “The Road to Awareness leads to the Path of Enlightenment, which takes us down the Trail of Empowerment, where we finally reach our destination in The Land of Personal Growth.”

    It can be a very long and winding road at times. You certainly won’t get there overnight. It’s taken me seven plus years now of self-discovery to find these out for myself. It’s going to take some time, some experience, and some pain and suffering, in order to fully understand what it is that I’m trying to tell you.

    You can’t get to the land of personal growth through any shortcuts – it has to be earned, if you are too fully appreciate the changes that have taken place inside you. And the only way that you get there is to just keep taking those next steps and keep your mind open to seeing some of the good that can come out of cancer, when you step back and look at where you were then – and what you’ve become now.

    Remember, at the start of the book, where I told you that we could take one of two paths when we are diagnosed? We could take the road of Bitterness and Resentment or we could walk along the path of Grace and Dignity?

    BREAK

    a post one day that was titled, “Has Cancer Been All Bad for You?” There were a variety of mixed responses, but most of them were overwhelmingly bitter and resentful. As I recall, the majority of posters who held those negative feelings were from caregivers, who had lost their spouse, or from family members who had lost a loved one.

    From their perspective, I can certainly understand and see how they felt the way they did. They watched someone very close to them suffer for a long time and then ultimately pass away right in front of them. That feeling of being helpless and unable to change the outcome has got to weigh heavily on a person’s mind when there is nothing they can do to help their loved ones.

    What surprised me more were the negative responses from the posters, who had cancer. There were a lot of ‘I Hate Cancer’ and ‘I Give Cancer No Credit’ responses as well as the ‘Nothing Good Comes From Cancer’ replies.

    Of course, everyone has the right to feel they way they do about their cancer, because it’s theirs. That’s the way that they feel about it and I think it’s important to acknowledge and respect their feelings on the subject. There is certainly a whole host of unresolved anger and bitterness issues underneath all of those statements though.

    For me, I see Cancer from a different viewpoint though.

    First, I’d like to say that I don’t like what cancer has done to me physically and the compromises and concessions that I’ve had to make that go along with all of that. It’s definitely taken its toll and made me less of a man than I was before all of this started. I feel like a shell of the man that I once used to be.

    I’m not fond of knowing that cancer is trying its damnedest to blow out my candle and dim my world earlier than I had planned or anticipated.

    I dislike the fact that the specter of cancer always looms on the horizon and invades my thoughts, even when I’m in that ‘watch and wait’ state and should be trying to enjoy my victories. Or, that it haunts my dreams and taunts me with its ever-present threat of another recurrence for my future.

    I’m not thrilled with the prospect of knowing that cancer will more than likely end up claiming me at some point of my journey, despite all of my best efforts, stubbornness and tenacity.

    I know that given a choice, that none of us would choose to have cancer in our lives in any way - shape, form or fashion. I guess, you could include me in that list, as well. It is a “Country Club That Nobody Wants to Join.” And for those of us that do qualify, we find that the membership dues are one hell of a price to pay for admission.

    It doesn’t change the facts one iota, though. We do have cancer and how we choose to go forward is ‘our decision’ and whether we’re angry or resolved to the fact, the meter is running and it’s going to run out, whether we have cancer or not.

    It’s how we represent ourselves and show the world that we can still bring a little grace and dignity to a seemingly grim situation. It’s showing the world that the human spirit can never be squelched, but that we live on and strive for more – even in the face of such adversity.

    More importantly though, is not what people think of us, or how we portray ourselves to them and our loved ones. It comes down to what each one of us can live with when we lay our heads down on our pillows every night.

    Anger and Bitterness will consume us just as surely as the cancer will. And if we give in to that, then cancer ends up taking it all from us – and we even furthered its cause by the way we reacted and handled this quandary, when the spotlight was finally shined on us.

    BREAK

    Folks get inspiration from watching how you conduct yourself during the most difficult trial in your life and draw a sense of comfort and contentment from what they see through your living testimony.

    BREAK

    Maybe, it's me that's finally gone insane:) Thought you might enjoy taking a peek at the work in progress, Winter. I see some of you in what I wrote.

    Love/Craig

    Craig
    I remember asking the question “Has Cancer Been All Bad for You?”. I posted it here and on the Religion, Spirituality and Meditation forum too.

    I agree with you about the responses as you wrote below:
    "What surprised me more were the negative responses from the posters, who had cancer. There were a lot of ‘I Hate Cancer’ and ‘I Give Cancer No Credit’ responses as well as the ‘Nothing Good Comes From Cancer’ replies."
    So many of those type of comments came from a those who talked the most about their faith. THAT was one of the most surprising things I observed. Many people were able to see things with opened eyes. Obviously, not everyone sees things through the same eyes.

    A good read Craig!
    -phil
  • Sundanceh
    Sundanceh Member Posts: 4,392 Member
    I'm Sorry, Winter
    ...I thought about this and was going to delete my entry, but the option was removed when I checked back, so now it's out there.

    I did not want to hijack your thread. I saw some of what you wrote and figured I could tie a couple of things in there as I thought of you. So I put the excerpt for you to read and enjoy.

    This thread is about you and your thoughts - not mine.

    I'm sorry to have butted in - just should have said "great job" and moved on. You will forgive me, won't you?

    -Craig
  • buckeye2
    buckeye2 Member Posts: 428 Member
    Sundanceh said:

    Excerpt From Chapter XIII
    One Year and Seven Months ago, I recall a friend of mine, who had a shade of bitterness and anger and asked us all succintly one morning, "why do we blow smoke up people's @$$ here on the board?"

    Aahhh....where is that gal now?

    Yours is an incredible turnabout of events from nothing - to something. Kudos to you on the success you've experienced. I know you hate cancer and hate what it does for all of us out there.

    Whether you realize it or not, you have experienced Awareness - Enlightenment - Empowerment - and Personal Growth. You may not see it, but in the last One Year - Seven Months...I have:)

    So, I offer you this excerpt from my latest chapter (still in progress).

    Chapter XIII - "The Four Horseman"

    Awareness acts as the compass that points us towards the path that we will have to travel tomorrow, armed with the knowledge that we gained from the road we walked down yesterday.

    Awareness doesn’t force himself on you – rather, he is that gentle soul, who taps you lightly on the shoulder and imparts his knowledge by whispering softly in your ear like a rhythmic melody that mimics the sounds of a slow, trickling brook.

    Awareness comes to us in his own time, but on our terms. He seems to have the uncanny ability to recognize when each of us is ready to get to know him. When you least expect it, you awake one morning and find that he is not only with you, but has also become a part of you.

    BREAK

    Enlightenment can also announce its arrival with a bolt of lightning and a clap of thunder that carries the message of ‘that’, which we have been searching for. It comes crashing over you with a sudden intensity that can only be described as an epiphany, as the waves of awareness – understanding – and acceptance wash over you.

    BREAK

    Empowerment is that swelling of pride in your chest that comes from the satisfaction that you feel when you stare down your fears without being afraid of what you will see, even when the odds look stacked against you.

    BREAK

    Personal Growth’s biggest accomplishment is getting us to a stage in our life where we now unselfishly think of other’s needs, rather than solely focusing on our own. Its truest gift comes from one heart reaching out to another and establishing that human connection, which in turn helps us to become a little bit more of a person than we were yesterday – and offers us the hope of becoming an even better person for tomorrow.

    BREAK

    It’s a beautiful process to see someone grow right before your eyes, isn’t it? I’ve seen them come to the cancer board time and time again. Initially, they arrive frightened and scared about their futures and what cancer really means for them, beyond the stereotypes that they’ve been taught to expect.

    Over time, you watch them acquiring the knowledge they need as they take those first steps into their treatment programs and surgeries. You see how their attitudes begin to change as time goes by. It starts out slowly at first, and then gradually becomes bolder as they gain the confidence they need to be able to stand on their own.

    As you watch from the sidelines like a proud parent, you see a stronger person emerge, like a butterfly does from a c o c o o n Gone is the scared, uninformed person whom you met in the beginning – in their place instead, is a wiser, more determined person, because of the experience they went through and the belief they gained in themselves for having stood up and accomplished what they originally thought was impossible to do on their own.

    BREAK

    On the flip-side, enlightenment has also showed me ‘the dark side’ of the fight. The side that shows us the danger and damage that the treatments do to our bodies – the side that shows us that our treatments of choice may inevitably fail us at some point – the side that shows us that our friends and loved ones can pass away, despite the best of intentions – and the side that shows us the harsh reality that we may not all come out on the good side of our fights.

    Enlightenment is the truth and the way that shows us both sides of how things operate, because we can’t learn only the good, and not see the bad as well. For the knowledge that comes from enlightenment doesn’t discriminate - it educates.

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    “The Road to Awareness leads to the Path of Enlightenment, which takes us down the Trail of Empowerment, where we finally reach our destination in The Land of Personal Growth.”

    It can be a very long and winding road at times. You certainly won’t get there overnight. It’s taken me seven plus years now of self-discovery to find these out for myself. It’s going to take some time, some experience, and some pain and suffering, in order to fully understand what it is that I’m trying to tell you.

    You can’t get to the land of personal growth through any shortcuts – it has to be earned, if you are too fully appreciate the changes that have taken place inside you. And the only way that you get there is to just keep taking those next steps and keep your mind open to seeing some of the good that can come out of cancer, when you step back and look at where you were then – and what you’ve become now.

    Remember, at the start of the book, where I told you that we could take one of two paths when we are diagnosed? We could take the road of Bitterness and Resentment or we could walk along the path of Grace and Dignity?

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    a post one day that was titled, “Has Cancer Been All Bad for You?” There were a variety of mixed responses, but most of them were overwhelmingly bitter and resentful. As I recall, the majority of posters who held those negative feelings were from caregivers, who had lost their spouse, or from family members who had lost a loved one.

    From their perspective, I can certainly understand and see how they felt the way they did. They watched someone very close to them suffer for a long time and then ultimately pass away right in front of them. That feeling of being helpless and unable to change the outcome has got to weigh heavily on a person’s mind when there is nothing they can do to help their loved ones.

    What surprised me more were the negative responses from the posters, who had cancer. There were a lot of ‘I Hate Cancer’ and ‘I Give Cancer No Credit’ responses as well as the ‘Nothing Good Comes From Cancer’ replies.

    Of course, everyone has the right to feel they way they do about their cancer, because it’s theirs. That’s the way that they feel about it and I think it’s important to acknowledge and respect their feelings on the subject. There is certainly a whole host of unresolved anger and bitterness issues underneath all of those statements though.

    For me, I see Cancer from a different viewpoint though.

    First, I’d like to say that I don’t like what cancer has done to me physically and the compromises and concessions that I’ve had to make that go along with all of that. It’s definitely taken its toll and made me less of a man than I was before all of this started. I feel like a shell of the man that I once used to be.

    I’m not fond of knowing that cancer is trying its damnedest to blow out my candle and dim my world earlier than I had planned or anticipated.

    I dislike the fact that the specter of cancer always looms on the horizon and invades my thoughts, even when I’m in that ‘watch and wait’ state and should be trying to enjoy my victories. Or, that it haunts my dreams and taunts me with its ever-present threat of another recurrence for my future.

    I’m not thrilled with the prospect of knowing that cancer will more than likely end up claiming me at some point of my journey, despite all of my best efforts, stubbornness and tenacity.

    I know that given a choice, that none of us would choose to have cancer in our lives in any way - shape, form or fashion. I guess, you could include me in that list, as well. It is a “Country Club That Nobody Wants to Join.” And for those of us that do qualify, we find that the membership dues are one hell of a price to pay for admission.

    It doesn’t change the facts one iota, though. We do have cancer and how we choose to go forward is ‘our decision’ and whether we’re angry or resolved to the fact, the meter is running and it’s going to run out, whether we have cancer or not.

    It’s how we represent ourselves and show the world that we can still bring a little grace and dignity to a seemingly grim situation. It’s showing the world that the human spirit can never be squelched, but that we live on and strive for more – even in the face of such adversity.

    More importantly though, is not what people think of us, or how we portray ourselves to them and our loved ones. It comes down to what each one of us can live with when we lay our heads down on our pillows every night.

    Anger and Bitterness will consume us just as surely as the cancer will. And if we give in to that, then cancer ends up taking it all from us – and we even furthered its cause by the way we reacted and handled this quandary, when the spotlight was finally shined on us.

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    Folks get inspiration from watching how you conduct yourself during the most difficult trial in your life and draw a sense of comfort and contentment from what they see through your living testimony.

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    Maybe, it's me that's finally gone insane:) Thought you might enjoy taking a peek at the work in progress, Winter. I see some of you in what I wrote.

    Love/Craig

    Criag, Your words are so
    Criag, Your words are so beautiful. I have now printed them out and stuck them in my billfold for the tough days. I want to be you when I grow up. Lisa
  • Buckwirth
    Buckwirth Member Posts: 1,258 Member
    Thanks Winter
    Could not have said it better myself.

    It's ok if someone wants to believe in magic, but real evidence based science works miracles as well.
  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member
    It's a Perfect Example
    of how much "luck" plays a role in things no matter how one treats themselves.
    -p
  • herdizziness
    herdizziness Member Posts: 3,624 Member
    Sundanceh said:

    I'm Sorry, Winter
    ...I thought about this and was going to delete my entry, but the option was removed when I checked back, so now it's out there.

    I did not want to hijack your thread. I saw some of what you wrote and figured I could tie a couple of things in there as I thought of you. So I put the excerpt for you to read and enjoy.

    This thread is about you and your thoughts - not mine.

    I'm sorry to have butted in - just should have said "great job" and moved on. You will forgive me, won't you?

    -Craig

    Oh My Dear Craig
    Your thoughts are always welcome and I enjoyed them every so much, never apologize for adding to any of my threads, ever, I enjoy each of your words, and they fit in quite appropriately!!
    Love at you,
    Winter Marie
  • Buckwirth
    Buckwirth Member Posts: 1,258 Member
    John23 said:

    Cancer rates: see how countries compare worldwide
    Cancer rates: see how countries compare worldwide

    Data summary

    Death from cancer (most recent) by country

    Mortality stats: China vs United States


    Does it really matter?

    The issues should be: What works best to stifle cancer, while
    doing as little damage to us overall.

    "You shouldn't have to drop a nuclear bomb on your front lawn to kill some crabgrass"

    Best hopes for all,

    John

    Chinese Mortality by Disease
    Chinese Mortality

    This study found very similar rates of cancer and heart disease compared to the US per 100,000 population. Interestingly, stomach cancer is still a major cause of death in China, and is preventable early if it is treated with simple antibiotics.
  • Buckwirth
    Buckwirth Member Posts: 1,258 Member
    PhillieG said:

    It's a Perfect Example
    of how much "luck" plays a role in things no matter how one treats themselves.
    -p

    Luck
    Is just statistics writ small.
  • maglets
    maglets Member Posts: 2,576 Member
    PhillieG said:

    It's a Perfect Example
    of how much "luck" plays a role in things no matter how one treats themselves.
    -p

    thanks
    thanks Winter Marie for your American to Canadian translation of tumor/tumour.....i really might not know of that which you speak......hahah

    Winter Marie....I respect your approach to your cancer path.....everyone must walk their own path. Like you I have a fairly laissez-faire attitude....I do i want to do....eat, drink what I want to...exercise when I want to...all in moderation

    perhaps as Phil suggests there is a role for luck....i certainly think that there is. I have no idea what determines these things. I had death diagnosis and at Christmas I will be marking seven years....

    Once again I plead for tolerance....i truly hope you do not have a host of critics raining down upon you.

    we seem to do what we want, must, choose, to do or not do.

    best regards,

    mags
  • herdizziness
    herdizziness Member Posts: 3,624 Member
    maglets said:

    thanks
    thanks Winter Marie for your American to Canadian translation of tumor/tumour.....i really might not know of that which you speak......hahah

    Winter Marie....I respect your approach to your cancer path.....everyone must walk their own path. Like you I have a fairly laissez-faire attitude....I do i want to do....eat, drink what I want to...exercise when I want to...all in moderation

    perhaps as Phil suggests there is a role for luck....i certainly think that there is. I have no idea what determines these things. I had death diagnosis and at Christmas I will be marking seven years....

    Once again I plead for tolerance....i truly hope you do not have a host of critics raining down upon you.

    we seem to do what we want, must, choose, to do or not do.

    best regards,

    mags

    Luck
    Is what I was stating.
  • lesvanb
    lesvanb Member Posts: 905

    Luck
    Is what I was stating.

    Santa Cruz
    made me think of Bonnie Raitt (who knows why?) which made me think of her song "Luck of the draw".

    Thanks for the post, Leslie
  • tootsie1
    tootsie1 Member Posts: 5,044 Member
    Wonderful
    That was a wonderful post! So glad you're still here!

    *hugs*
    Gail
  • yoga
    yoga Member Posts: 87
    thank you
    Thank you for posting this Winter Marie. I am stage IV and have been told 2.2 years with chemo and no hope of surgery. You have given me hope - so, once again, thank you for posting.
    yoga jo
  • marqimark
    marqimark Member Posts: 242 Member
    Thanks


    I appreciate the thoughts everyone has shared on this thread.

    Mark