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Luv2lunch
Luv2lunch Member Posts: 270
edited March 2014 in Caregivers #1
Hi everyone. I just wanted to introduce myself. I'm new to this site. I have been on the colorectal site for a few months. I originally went on it to ask a question about my Moms colostomy bag and to also see if she wanted to participate. She didn't.

My Mom is 79 years old. She was diagnosed with rectal cancer in March of this year. She went through 6 weeks of continuous, 24 hour a day, chemo and 6 weeks of radiation. She had her surgery in July for a permanent colostomy and is currently going through 4 more treatments of chemo. (Tomorrow will be number 3 and November will be the last one).

The people on the colorectal site are so nice and helpful, however, I personally don't have cancer and Mom doesn't want to be on it. I found this site and figured maybe it would be better suited for me as a caregiver.

Mom moved in with my husband and me in April and has not left yet. She has a small house on the back of my brothers property, which is about 15 minutes from here. She used to love her house. Now, she doesn't want anything to do with it. She said she feels more comfortable with me changing her wafer than anyone else. My sister in law is more than capable of doing this for her but she does not want to go back. I would never tell her she needs to go home, but I want her to feel independent again, like she used to.

She does mention to me that she has been here long enough and she needs to go home, but she changes her mind daily. My Mom is my best friend. I would do anything for her. She is dealing with her bag situation pretty well. She will change it herself daily, which is a good thing. Maybe because of her age, she just doesn't want to be alone anymore. I don't know. I do know that it is putting a really big strain on what is left of my marriage. My Mom and husband have always gotten along, but as time goes by, he is feeling more neglected. The attention isn't on him all the time like it used to be. So I'm struggling trying to keep everyone happy, working, paying bills, cooking, cleaning, etc.

Well, I will stop for now. I thank you for letting me vent. I'm sorry to sound like I am complaining. I don't mean to. It just gets a little overwhelming at times.

Thank you again,
Linda

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  • Barbara53
    Barbara53 Member Posts: 652
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    my mother is in bad shape too
    Linda,

    Welcome to caregivers, where you will meet some wonderful people. My 80-year-old mother doesn’t live with me, but since her diagnosis with advanced ovarian cancer 20 months ago, I’ve lived with her about a third of the time. She lives three states away, so I have to shut down my life and help live hers more and more. It’s not easy, but I certainly don’t envy your position, either.

    What is your mother’s prognosis? You can talk about that more freely here than on the cancer boards where you don’t want to discourage people with bad news. We caregivers HAVE to take a realistic view to do our jobs well. My mother is still receiving chemo for advanced ovarian cancer, but it’s not working very well anymore and I think we will have hospice coming in the next few weeks. Needless to say, her prognosis is poor based on the normal course of her disease.

    You need and deserve a break, and so does your husband. Perhaps you can arrange a couple of days away, and your mother and sister in law can work together to give you that time? It could be a chance for your mom to see if she likes being home again. Just a thought.

    My mother wants to stay in her home until the last of her days, so my brothers and I will do our best to make that happen. So far, so good, but it’s one day at a time.
  • mswijiknyc
    mswijiknyc Member Posts: 421
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    new myself - welcome aboard :)
    There is no such thing as complaining on these boards. In one way or another, everyone has been where you are. Everyone is at different places on this path, and everyone can feel for you and commiserate with you. I agree with Barb - try to see if you and your husband can take a few days to yourselves. If not a few days, maybe just a date night for a night or two or a weekend afternoon. Also try to remember to take some time for yourself too. Even if it's only five minutes at a time, taking a minute or two to regroup is good. I love my husband dearly, and taking a bit of time for me keeps us both in good spirits. Sometimes he needs time to himself too.

    Keep your head up. We are all here for you and pulling for you. :)
  • lovingwifedeb
    lovingwifedeb Member Posts: 183
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    Welcome To A Wonderful Group
    I just got back from visiting my own mom where I grew up. She is a heavy smoker, drinker, her appetite is not good and her eyesight is poor. Her body is shutting down. I used to be able to take her books to read and make her meals for her to enjoy while I visited with her but this last visit was a hint of days to come.

    I learned that she has a tumor on her lung and that it is probably cancer and that she most likely has emphysema. She refuses ANY treatment what-so-ever. She has signed the DNR paper with the hospital so I do know there is more this story than what she is willing to tell me. I live over 5 hours away, I still work and can't be there immediately for her when I feel I should be. At least I have a brother who lives closer to her and who can be there when time is critical. And wouldn't you know this summer my husband was diagnosed with melanoma stage 3c, my world came crashing down on me.

    My point in all of this telling is that it seems family and friends at times of trouble have to step out of their everyday lives and bend for us at some point. Some do... some don't. We can't handle our lives at all times when our loved ones are sick. We need help. My mother is dying slowly. My husband? We don't know yet. Some days I feel overwhelmed with my troubles and I come here to vent and hope that someone will listen and respond to me.

    Come here anytime, you are never alone with your thoughts or feelings. The caregivers here are dealing with every level there is that cancer is throwing at them. You are never alone here. Someone will listen.

    Deb.
    lovingwife to Bob
  • grandmafay
    grandmafay Member Posts: 1,633 Member
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    Welcome
    Welcome. I think you will find many here who have some understanding of what you are going through. My mom lived with me for a year before my husband went on hospice. She now lives with my sister. Having that extra person in the home does change the dynamics. It can be very hard on a marriage. My only suggestion would be to find out exactly what your mother's concern is about going home. Maybe she just needs some reassurance that she can get help whenever she needs it. I remember that my dad set up an alarm button for my grandmother when I was a child. It was in her bedroom and she could just push the button for help. She never pushed the button, but just knowing it was there gave her comfort. She lived next door to us. Maybe something like that with your brother's house would help. My guess is that your mother would feel better about herself if she could be more independent. I may be way off base, but I think you do need to have a conversation with your mom. You also need to talk with your husband. He may feel like you are putting your mom before your marriage. Let him know that you are trying to work something out. My husband always knew that he came first. Do have a date night. Do try to get away, just the two of you. Do take care of yourself. Fay
  • Luv2lunch
    Luv2lunch Member Posts: 270
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    Barbara53 said:

    my mother is in bad shape too
    Linda,

    Welcome to caregivers, where you will meet some wonderful people. My 80-year-old mother doesn’t live with me, but since her diagnosis with advanced ovarian cancer 20 months ago, I’ve lived with her about a third of the time. She lives three states away, so I have to shut down my life and help live hers more and more. It’s not easy, but I certainly don’t envy your position, either.

    What is your mother’s prognosis? You can talk about that more freely here than on the cancer boards where you don’t want to discourage people with bad news. We caregivers HAVE to take a realistic view to do our jobs well. My mother is still receiving chemo for advanced ovarian cancer, but it’s not working very well anymore and I think we will have hospice coming in the next few weeks. Needless to say, her prognosis is poor based on the normal course of her disease.

    You need and deserve a break, and so does your husband. Perhaps you can arrange a couple of days away, and your mother and sister in law can work together to give you that time? It could be a chance for your mom to see if she likes being home again. Just a thought.

    My mother wants to stay in her home until the last of her days, so my brothers and I will do our best to make that happen. So far, so good, but it’s one day at a time.

    Hi Barbara,
    Thank you for

    Hi Barbara,
    Thank you for your email. I'm sorry about your Mom. I guess with cancer you really don't know the prognosis, or so I'm told. We are under the impression that after the chemo in November she will be fine. She will just need frequent colonoscopies. Hopefully.
    I do take Mom to her house on the way back from an outing. She will run in and get a book or some more clothes and run back out. She did say she might try to stay there a day or two a week and see how she does. I guess time will tell.
    Thank you again and I'm sure we'll be chatting again :)
    Linda
    PS, I love that picture of your cat! He/she is so cute.
  • Luv2lunch
    Luv2lunch Member Posts: 270
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    new myself - welcome aboard :)
    There is no such thing as complaining on these boards. In one way or another, everyone has been where you are. Everyone is at different places on this path, and everyone can feel for you and commiserate with you. I agree with Barb - try to see if you and your husband can take a few days to yourselves. If not a few days, maybe just a date night for a night or two or a weekend afternoon. Also try to remember to take some time for yourself too. Even if it's only five minutes at a time, taking a minute or two to regroup is good. I love my husband dearly, and taking a bit of time for me keeps us both in good spirits. Sometimes he needs time to himself too.

    Keep your head up. We are all here for you and pulling for you. :)

    Hi,
    Thank you for you

    Hi,
    Thank you for you advice. I will definately try to get some time in for myself. It's really hard though. My husband is disabled from a work injury years ago so he doesn't work and is home all day. They both seem to forget that I've been at work and when I walk in the house, its "whats for dinner?" They both are very capable of making something to eat or do their own laundry. Maybe I have spoiled them.
    I hate to say this but sometimes I feel so resentful to both of them. I never say antything to them, but I get really angry. I usually end up in the bathroom for a good cry and then it's out of my system and I just go about my routine.
    Thank you for listening, again :)
    Linda
  • Luv2lunch
    Luv2lunch Member Posts: 270
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    Welcome To A Wonderful Group
    I just got back from visiting my own mom where I grew up. She is a heavy smoker, drinker, her appetite is not good and her eyesight is poor. Her body is shutting down. I used to be able to take her books to read and make her meals for her to enjoy while I visited with her but this last visit was a hint of days to come.

    I learned that she has a tumor on her lung and that it is probably cancer and that she most likely has emphysema. She refuses ANY treatment what-so-ever. She has signed the DNR paper with the hospital so I do know there is more this story than what she is willing to tell me. I live over 5 hours away, I still work and can't be there immediately for her when I feel I should be. At least I have a brother who lives closer to her and who can be there when time is critical. And wouldn't you know this summer my husband was diagnosed with melanoma stage 3c, my world came crashing down on me.

    My point in all of this telling is that it seems family and friends at times of trouble have to step out of their everyday lives and bend for us at some point. Some do... some don't. We can't handle our lives at all times when our loved ones are sick. We need help. My mother is dying slowly. My husband? We don't know yet. Some days I feel overwhelmed with my troubles and I come here to vent and hope that someone will listen and respond to me.

    Come here anytime, you are never alone with your thoughts or feelings. The caregivers here are dealing with every level there is that cancer is throwing at them. You are never alone here. Someone will listen.

    Deb.
    lovingwife to Bob

    Hi Barb,
    Thank you for your

    Hi Barb,
    Thank you for your letter. I'm so sorry about your Mom and husband.
    I agree with you, I do need help. As I mentioned, my brother and sister in law live 15 minutes away. Ask me how many times either of them has come over here to visit her? Maybe 5 between the two of them, since April. Pretty sad. My other brother lives about 4 hours away (not extremely far) and has seen her once in a year. He does call once a week. I will give him that. But the younger one, there is no excuse. And the SIL is always saying to ask her if I need any help with moms appointments. I have asked 3 times and each time she was busy and couldn't help me. I stopped asking. They are too busy with their 4 kids. I feel like telling them they wouldn't even have those kids if it wasn't for my Mom, but I don't. I know at the end of the day or at the end of her journey here on earth, I will be able to sleep at night, knowing I have done everything for her. She was always there for all of us our whole lives and I just feel like the same can be done for her.
    Well, it's "dinner time", so I'm off and running.
    Thank you again and I will say a prayer for your Mom and husband.
    Linda
  • Luv2lunch
    Luv2lunch Member Posts: 270
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    Welcome
    Welcome. I think you will find many here who have some understanding of what you are going through. My mom lived with me for a year before my husband went on hospice. She now lives with my sister. Having that extra person in the home does change the dynamics. It can be very hard on a marriage. My only suggestion would be to find out exactly what your mother's concern is about going home. Maybe she just needs some reassurance that she can get help whenever she needs it. I remember that my dad set up an alarm button for my grandmother when I was a child. It was in her bedroom and she could just push the button for help. She never pushed the button, but just knowing it was there gave her comfort. She lived next door to us. Maybe something like that with your brother's house would help. My guess is that your mother would feel better about herself if she could be more independent. I may be way off base, but I think you do need to have a conversation with your mom. You also need to talk with your husband. He may feel like you are putting your mom before your marriage. Let him know that you are trying to work something out. My husband always knew that he came first. Do have a date night. Do try to get away, just the two of you. Do take care of yourself. Fay

    Hi Fay,
    Thanks for the

    Hi Fay,
    Thanks for the email. I actually have had a conversation with Mom. She said she just doesn't feel comfortable at home by herself in case anything does wrong with her bag. I have explained that if I'm at work or home, I can be there within 15 minutes, and there is nothing that could possibly happen to her that couldn't wait 15 minutes. We have offered to get her a dog, put an alarm system in, extra locks on the doors, etc. She said she doesn't need any of that. We bought some walkie talkies. One is at my brothers house. I guess one of the kids broke it.
    She said the other day that she will go home after chemo is done, in November. I guess we will wait and see. I do think that if that happens we will get her one of those buttons that you can wear around your neck and just push it in case she falls. She really is quite spry for her age though which is great.
    My husband and I can't even have an arguement because Mom is always around. So we both just let it simmer inside which is definately not good. We did go fishing the other weekend which was nice. I guess we need to schedule more times like that. I will try.
    Well, thank you again for listening Fay. I appreciate your help.
    Linda
  • Barbara53
    Barbara53 Member Posts: 652
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    Luv2lunch said:

    Hi Fay,
    Thanks for the

    Hi Fay,
    Thanks for the email. I actually have had a conversation with Mom. She said she just doesn't feel comfortable at home by herself in case anything does wrong with her bag. I have explained that if I'm at work or home, I can be there within 15 minutes, and there is nothing that could possibly happen to her that couldn't wait 15 minutes. We have offered to get her a dog, put an alarm system in, extra locks on the doors, etc. She said she doesn't need any of that. We bought some walkie talkies. One is at my brothers house. I guess one of the kids broke it.
    She said the other day that she will go home after chemo is done, in November. I guess we will wait and see. I do think that if that happens we will get her one of those buttons that you can wear around your neck and just push it in case she falls. She really is quite spry for her age though which is great.
    My husband and I can't even have an arguement because Mom is always around. So we both just let it simmer inside which is definately not good. We did go fishing the other weekend which was nice. I guess we need to schedule more times like that. I will try.
    Well, thank you again for listening Fay. I appreciate your help.
    Linda

    first alert
    When my mother was recovering from surgery she got a first alert box free with home health services. After that it cost $45 a month. Mom had it taken out because she declared herself well, but the one time it went off I was really impressed with the service. A policeman came because the first alert people couldn't reach mom by phone. We then had it changed so my brother would be called before the police. I thought it was a great deal.
  • Pennymac02
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    Luv2lunch said:

    Hi,
    Thank you for you

    Hi,
    Thank you for you advice. I will definately try to get some time in for myself. It's really hard though. My husband is disabled from a work injury years ago so he doesn't work and is home all day. They both seem to forget that I've been at work and when I walk in the house, its "whats for dinner?" They both are very capable of making something to eat or do their own laundry. Maybe I have spoiled them.
    I hate to say this but sometimes I feel so resentful to both of them. I never say antything to them, but I get really angry. I usually end up in the bathroom for a good cry and then it's out of my system and I just go about my routine.
    Thank you for listening, again :)
    Linda

    Ha!
    Your Hubby and mother sound like my family!A lot of the caregivers on this board are in the same boat--lawn service, laundress, maid, nurse, financial manager, grocery shopper, cheerleader, primary worrier, AND working full time. I let myself get really overwhelmed and resentful and depressed, and recently went to my PCP for antidepressants and have started seeing a therapist. I've been pretty open on this board re: how this has been working for me. I feel much better most days. Still overwhelmed sometimes, but generally more positive. I want to be able to enjoy the time I have with my husband, not spend it feeling put out by all of the responsibilities. So I've been making a real effort to take care of myself, even if its only in little 10 minute increments. It's really helped. I cry in the shower, in the morning if I need to. And I ask my friends for help a lot, even if I just facebook them to ask for extra prayer.
    Sorry that you needed to find this message board, but I'm glad it was here for both of us to find, if that makes any sense.
    Penny
  • Luv2lunch
    Luv2lunch Member Posts: 270
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    Ha!
    Your Hubby and mother sound like my family!A lot of the caregivers on this board are in the same boat--lawn service, laundress, maid, nurse, financial manager, grocery shopper, cheerleader, primary worrier, AND working full time. I let myself get really overwhelmed and resentful and depressed, and recently went to my PCP for antidepressants and have started seeing a therapist. I've been pretty open on this board re: how this has been working for me. I feel much better most days. Still overwhelmed sometimes, but generally more positive. I want to be able to enjoy the time I have with my husband, not spend it feeling put out by all of the responsibilities. So I've been making a real effort to take care of myself, even if its only in little 10 minute increments. It's really helped. I cry in the shower, in the morning if I need to. And I ask my friends for help a lot, even if I just facebook them to ask for extra prayer.
    Sorry that you needed to find this message board, but I'm glad it was here for both of us to find, if that makes any sense.
    Penny

    Hi Penny,
    Thank you also for

    Hi Penny,
    Thank you also for your email. You made me laugh with your descriptions, maid, nurse, financial advisor, lol.
    I'm sure that I am totally depressed. I actually had to go the the ER 2 weeks ago. My blood pressure went through the roof. I have never had a problem with my pressure before. They ended up putting me on blood pressure medication. I am 47 years old.
    I also want to enjoy the time I have left with my mom, however long that might be. I would not and could not ever ask her to leave. I feel an obligation to her. Maybe there will be a place upstairs for me after all is said and done. Who knows. All I know is I'm hanging on the best I can.
    I am glad I came to this site. You guys "get" me. :)
    Thank you again.
    Linda
  • ruthelizabeth
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    Luv2lunch said:

    Hi Fay,
    Thanks for the

    Hi Fay,
    Thanks for the email. I actually have had a conversation with Mom. She said she just doesn't feel comfortable at home by herself in case anything does wrong with her bag. I have explained that if I'm at work or home, I can be there within 15 minutes, and there is nothing that could possibly happen to her that couldn't wait 15 minutes. We have offered to get her a dog, put an alarm system in, extra locks on the doors, etc. She said she doesn't need any of that. We bought some walkie talkies. One is at my brothers house. I guess one of the kids broke it.
    She said the other day that she will go home after chemo is done, in November. I guess we will wait and see. I do think that if that happens we will get her one of those buttons that you can wear around your neck and just push it in case she falls. She really is quite spry for her age though which is great.
    My husband and I can't even have an arguement because Mom is always around. So we both just let it simmer inside which is definately not good. We did go fishing the other weekend which was nice. I guess we need to schedule more times like that. I will try.
    Well, thank you again for listening Fay. I appreciate your help.
    Linda

    I can understand.
    Even though my situation wasn't the same as yours, I can understand some aspects of it. MY husband had four children and he loved them so dearly that dinners for two became dinners for three or four or five. In the first years of our marriage it hurt a lot. Marriages need times for just the two of you to stay strong. Try hard to carve out a couple of days or even a few hours to do something fun with your husband. It sounds as if your mom is strong enough for that and if not, can you arrange a day's visit at your brother's house? The three of you will do better if you and your husband can have some time alone.

    If you are the chief cook, bottle-washer, laundress, ta da, ta da, try to find short cuts.

    I bless my slow cooker. I could prep everything the night before (put a board on your lap, sit and watch TV with your husband and chop stuff up) and then throw everything in the pot the next morning and run to work. When I got home, supper was almost ready. (Let me know if you want recipes.) If you do soup or marinara sauce or stew or anything in the slow cooker, you can freeze some and have a quick meal to heat up.

    Fish in foil is fast, too. Lay out a piece of foil, put a layer of sliced onions down, lay a fish filet on top, add anything you can think of (lemon juice and pepper, more onions and garlic, mushrooms, thinly sliced vegetables). Seal the foil. At this point you can refrigerate it for a day or sling it in the freezer. Cooking is simple. Put the packets on a baking sheet. Stick the pan in the oven at any temperature you choose and do other things. The fish will cook and stay moist for a long time. Meanwhile you can do other things and still know that dinner will be ready and good.

    If you throw the laundry in before you leave for work, can your husband stick it in the dryer for you?

    I understand your predicament even though mine wasn't exactly the same. I had a full-time job and when Don became almost totally bedridden........ When I was told that the youngest stepdaughter was definitely a threat to me and might be to her dad, I gave in and had his son stay at a motel and spend the day with his dad. It was expensive as he expected to be totally supported, but it was necessary. A month later I got a leave of absence and stayed up nights, then did errands and housework during the day. I know about doing everything and somehow managing to be cheerful and alllll that. It is not always possible. If your husband sees you making efforts to be with him more, maybe he will also make efforts to help you out with some minor things.

    Hope you'll keep us posted on your situation. Come and tell us how things are. We will all understand.
  • Luv2lunch
    Luv2lunch Member Posts: 270
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    I can understand.
    Even though my situation wasn't the same as yours, I can understand some aspects of it. MY husband had four children and he loved them so dearly that dinners for two became dinners for three or four or five. In the first years of our marriage it hurt a lot. Marriages need times for just the two of you to stay strong. Try hard to carve out a couple of days or even a few hours to do something fun with your husband. It sounds as if your mom is strong enough for that and if not, can you arrange a day's visit at your brother's house? The three of you will do better if you and your husband can have some time alone.

    If you are the chief cook, bottle-washer, laundress, ta da, ta da, try to find short cuts.

    I bless my slow cooker. I could prep everything the night before (put a board on your lap, sit and watch TV with your husband and chop stuff up) and then throw everything in the pot the next morning and run to work. When I got home, supper was almost ready. (Let me know if you want recipes.) If you do soup or marinara sauce or stew or anything in the slow cooker, you can freeze some and have a quick meal to heat up.

    Fish in foil is fast, too. Lay out a piece of foil, put a layer of sliced onions down, lay a fish filet on top, add anything you can think of (lemon juice and pepper, more onions and garlic, mushrooms, thinly sliced vegetables). Seal the foil. At this point you can refrigerate it for a day or sling it in the freezer. Cooking is simple. Put the packets on a baking sheet. Stick the pan in the oven at any temperature you choose and do other things. The fish will cook and stay moist for a long time. Meanwhile you can do other things and still know that dinner will be ready and good.

    If you throw the laundry in before you leave for work, can your husband stick it in the dryer for you?

    I understand your predicament even though mine wasn't exactly the same. I had a full-time job and when Don became almost totally bedridden........ When I was told that the youngest stepdaughter was definitely a threat to me and might be to her dad, I gave in and had his son stay at a motel and spend the day with his dad. It was expensive as he expected to be totally supported, but it was necessary. A month later I got a leave of absence and stayed up nights, then did errands and housework during the day. I know about doing everything and somehow managing to be cheerful and alllll that. It is not always possible. If your husband sees you making efforts to be with him more, maybe he will also make efforts to help you out with some minor things.

    Hope you'll keep us posted on your situation. Come and tell us how things are. We will all understand.

    Ruth,
    Thank you so much for

    Ruth,
    Thank you so much for your wonderful advice. I really appreciate it. I would love some recipes. The fish sounds great. I will definately give that a try.
    My husband and I are planning an outing this weekend, hopefully. If the weather is nice we might go fishing. If not, maybe a movie.
    Thanks again and I will talk again soon.
    Linda
    PS, my husband's name is Don :)