Curious....no Alcohol during treatment?
Pammy Comments
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to wine or not to wine
To wine or not to wine that is the question? I think that is a personal decision. I gave up most alcohol because I read that alcohol can mimic estrogens in the body. My cancer was estrogen/progestrone positive so I thought it can't hurt. I now have a glass of red wine with dinner. I try to buy organic wines now not to have all of the sulfates etc.
P.S.
I am glad all of the small sacrifices to the Pet/scan gods worked.
Nuclear medicine is on the first floor at AGH in the main hospital.0 -
Speaking only for myself, of course....
Well, it is just ME, but I feel this way about drinking...I drink! I am and always have been a wine lover ( raised in Europe, now living in the wine country of California) and I found I am NOT willing to extend my life for a few days, hours, minutes~ whatever by giving up everything that I liked PRE-Beast! I think there is a lot to be said for quantity vs quality, and personally I don't plan on being an old person, dying of nothing! I plan on being an old person dying of LIVING! And fun, and its resultant exhaustion! At the age of 109, after having shared a bottle of pinot noir with a younger man (100?) and having had passionate sex!
It is , of course, a personal decision about alcohol, but I have found more uf ous DO than Don't~ am I right, ladies? We still have cigarette smokers among us, and those who eat trans-fat, and are overweight. We have those who don't exercise, those who are stressed...we are really just "normal" ( HA!) women, living Life After Cancer. There are a million things we shouldn't be doing, but we're doing them anyway. And the thing I do is enjoy wine~ and a nice vodka/tonic with lime on a hot day too!
Hugs,
Claudia0 -
To drink or not
Well, Pammy, I have to say that I haven't given it up. Cut back, definitely. During treatment, I had a glass occasionally. Now, I drink socially and not to excess (usually, LoL). But then, my cancer is estrogen negative. I might think differently if it were not. My radiation oncologist is not a fan of drinking because she says it contributes to cell breakdown (for everyone), but she also doesn't want me to feel guilty for having one glass of wine. So, I keep it to a moderate level and drink when I want.
Mimi0 -
I have onemimivac said:To drink or not
Well, Pammy, I have to say that I haven't given it up. Cut back, definitely. During treatment, I had a glass occasionally. Now, I drink socially and not to excess (usually, LoL). But then, my cancer is estrogen negative. I might think differently if it were not. My radiation oncologist is not a fan of drinking because she says it contributes to cell breakdown (for everyone), but she also doesn't want me to feel guilty for having one glass of wine. So, I keep it to a moderate level and drink when I want.
Mimi
I have a beer or two every once in a while. I don't think you have to give everything up just cut down and not increase it.
I am neither Estrogen or Progestrone.
Margo0 -
My ONC. says if I want thetommaseena said:I have one
I have a beer or two every once in a while. I don't think you have to give everything up just cut down and not increase it.
I am neither Estrogen or Progestrone.
Margo
My ONC. says if I want the occasional Margarita, go for it!0 -
Well Pammy.......
Right or wrong, I have the occasional glass of wine or coffee with Bailey's, and I do so enjoy a good Bloody Mary.
I also smoke. Wish I didn't. But I can quit eating easier than I can quit smoking.
And I love the casino, when I can afford to go.
Otherwise, I swear! I'm a very good person! LOL!!
Like the others here, the choice is yours, and I think the key is moderation. Plus, who can give up every enjoyment? Live life.
Hugs,
CR0 -
Thanks Trishy....TrishyG said:to wine or not to wine
To wine or not to wine that is the question? I think that is a personal decision. I gave up most alcohol because I read that alcohol can mimic estrogens in the body. My cancer was estrogen/progestrone positive so I thought it can't hurt. I now have a glass of red wine with dinner. I try to buy organic wines now not to have all of the sulfates etc.
P.S.
I am glad all of the small sacrifices to the Pet/scan gods worked.
Nuclear medicine is on the first floor at AGH in the main hospital.
Maybe that is what I heard about the estrogen. Thanks for the info on where to find Nuclear Medicine!! Pammy 0 -
On that note.....CR1954 said:Well Pammy.......
Right or wrong, I have the occasional glass of wine or coffee with Bailey's, and I do so enjoy a good Bloody Mary.
I also smoke. Wish I didn't. But I can quit eating easier than I can quit smoking.
And I love the casino, when I can afford to go.
Otherwise, I swear! I'm a very good person! LOL!!
Like the others here, the choice is yours, and I think the key is moderation. Plus, who can give up every enjoyment? Live life.
Hugs,
CR
I would like to propose a toast!! Cheers!! And I know what you mean CR about giving up eating before giving up cigarettes...I felt the exact same way... but now I am soooooo glad I quit after 35 years.....didn't realize how much they controled my life. It wasn't easy but I truly do feel better.....or maybe it's the wine kicking in? Pammy 0 -
Okay Pammy... what I want toAkiss4me said:On that note.....
I would like to propose a toast!! Cheers!! And I know what you mean CR about giving up eating before giving up cigarettes...I felt the exact same way... but now I am soooooo glad I quit after 35 years.....didn't realize how much they controled my life. It wasn't easy but I truly do feel better.....or maybe it's the wine kicking in? Pammy
Okay Pammy... what I want to know is how you did it... quit smoking... since I found out that I have bc I have smoked twice as much... (can you say smoking causes cancer??) how dumb is that.. I keep telling my husband I HAVE TO QUIT...I say this as I light a cigarette... I too have smoked for 30 years... I want to quit.... honest I do... I just don't know how...
And just for reference... (yeah.. I will probably have to go into that change of life too... hormone blockers oh joy joy...) and as the youngest sibling of 11 brothers and sisters I don't think it's fair that I have to go through the change first... for the record... I am not, I REPEAT NOT, giving up my occational margarita, glass of wine... or shot of whatever... (all depends on the mood)...
~Cheers~
~T
PS Sometimes you want to go... where everybody knows your name....0 -
Love that song!!taleena said:Okay Pammy... what I want to
Okay Pammy... what I want to know is how you did it... quit smoking... since I found out that I have bc I have smoked twice as much... (can you say smoking causes cancer??) how dumb is that.. I keep telling my husband I HAVE TO QUIT...I say this as I light a cigarette... I too have smoked for 30 years... I want to quit.... honest I do... I just don't know how...
And just for reference... (yeah.. I will probably have to go into that change of life too... hormone blockers oh joy joy...) and as the youngest sibling of 11 brothers and sisters I don't think it's fair that I have to go through the change first... for the record... I am not, I REPEAT NOT, giving up my occational margarita, glass of wine... or shot of whatever... (all depends on the mood)...
~Cheers~
~T
PS Sometimes you want to go... where everybody knows your name....
I rolled up my sleeves T and said "I'M DONE!!". I guess you could say I was scared into it. The only way I knew I would quit was to go COLD TURKEY!! It wasn't easy....I made sure I smoked my last cigarette on a Sunday evening before bed (this way I had a jump start of 8 hours when I woke up in the morning). I knew that within 72 hours all the nicotine would be eliminated from my system (drink lots & lots of grape juice to flush it out!) and I would only have the cravings & habits left to deal with. I made up 30 little baggies of carrot & celery sticks (my husband laughed because I made them look like cigarettes when I cut them). Any time I wanted a cigarette I would grab a baggie and go to my usual smoking spot and munch away. I guess the main thing I did was fool my brain.....but it worked!! It certainly sucked.....but worked. Now a craving is the same you would crave for some ice cream and realize there is none in the fridge so you forget about it. Actually....it's easier to forget about the cigarettes then it is the ice cream!! Plus I figured "bring it on"....I might as well go thru all the bad crap at once & get it over with. So glad I did. I feel so much better & its only been 3 weeks. I will be happy to be your cheering squad and sounding board if you decide you want to give it a try......:) Pammy0 -
Smokingtaleena said:Okay Pammy... what I want to
Okay Pammy... what I want to know is how you did it... quit smoking... since I found out that I have bc I have smoked twice as much... (can you say smoking causes cancer??) how dumb is that.. I keep telling my husband I HAVE TO QUIT...I say this as I light a cigarette... I too have smoked for 30 years... I want to quit.... honest I do... I just don't know how...
And just for reference... (yeah.. I will probably have to go into that change of life too... hormone blockers oh joy joy...) and as the youngest sibling of 11 brothers and sisters I don't think it's fair that I have to go through the change first... for the record... I am not, I REPEAT NOT, giving up my occational margarita, glass of wine... or shot of whatever... (all depends on the mood)...
~Cheers~
~T
PS Sometimes you want to go... where everybody knows your name....
There is a drug ( sorry can not think of the name of it ) but your doctors would know. This drug I understand works well. I know a few people who have used this drug and they no longer smoke. My husband and I went though a group hypnosis about 17 years ago now. My husband did not want to go to this thing. He thought it was a scam. He only went to make me happy and stop B------- about it. Guess what , the darn thing worked. We have not had a smoke since that day. I was a 2 pack a day smoker. Oh ya, they don't make you act like a chicken or anything. Good luck, its a hard habit to quit.0 -
Hi, Pammy...
Congratulations for three weeks no smokes! Good for you!
Alcohol... Hmmm... I'll share... My surgeon asked me to forego alcohol both pre- and post-surgery, for "better healing"... While enduring chemo, I could not have possibly tolerated even a single drop of booze (and I'm basically a beer and wine only - and only very occasionally - person, way beyond a "lightweight"... I'm a "featherweight"!) if I had wanted it, and I simply didn't. Which made my med onc and chemo nurses quite happy, because they advised against it, anyway. My rad onc (getting the theme here?) asked me not to drink - again, to "promote healing"... Alcohol consumption can constrict the blood vessels, thereby reducing good circulation, etc., you get the picture.
One of our very wise members, a while back, posted the results of a study. Here's what my non-scientific-thinking brain absorbed from that info: ONE drink can actually increase blood flow (you know, that relaxed feeling). However, drinking beyond ONE is when the vessel constriction begins.
In sum, one drink probably won't hurt. But, "binge" drinking might. Current medical thinking, even for women without BC = once the age of 40 hits, several drinks consumed at one time is not recommended. Most doctors would rather see their patients have ONE drink each day vs. 10 on a Friday/Saturday night each week.
These are very personal lifestyle choices. I don't think that just because we are BC survivors we can be expected to give up every little thing that may be fun. I'd say all things in moderation - just like for anybody and everybody else - is always a wise way to go.
Kind regards, Susan0 -
I have never heard of not
I have never heard of not drinking just because you are in treatment. You might not want to
or you might not feel like it. And ofcourse, doctors are going to advise against it. That
is just a doctor. But, do what you want, do what you feel like. Life is too short to not
have a beer or a glass of wine if you want to. Cheers!0 -
I don't think you have todyaneb123 said:My ONC. says if I want the
My ONC. says if I want the occasional Margarita, go for it!
I don't think you have to give up drinking totally. I think you just need to do it in moderation. And, depending on the treatment you are getting, how you feel, and, what your doctors say about drinking at that time. I am not giving up my beer, nor, my occasional glass of wine. I need to live my life and enjoy it, and, if an occasional beer or glass of wine is involved in it, then, so be it!0 -
hI cRCR1954 said:Well Pammy.......
Right or wrong, I have the occasional glass of wine or coffee with Bailey's, and I do so enjoy a good Bloody Mary.
I also smoke. Wish I didn't. But I can quit eating easier than I can quit smoking.
And I love the casino, when I can afford to go.
Otherwise, I swear! I'm a very good person! LOL!!
Like the others here, the choice is yours, and I think the key is moderation. Plus, who can give up every enjoyment? Live life.
Hugs,
CR
i ALSO LIKE TO HAVE A VODKA ANYTHING ONCE A WEEK OR 2-10!! love jackie0 -
To drink or not to drink
My VA doctors told me no drinking during treatment due to interaction of the chemo with the liver, but of course the VA think all Veterans are drunks. Ask you oncono man he will tell you. I for one after recovering from my last chemo, went and bought me a six pack and refused to share (hmmmm maybe all veterans are drunks). Anyway just check with your Dr he will tell you according to your type treatment what is best.
Happy Smiles
Tjhay0 -
Drinktjhay said:To drink or not to drink
My VA doctors told me no drinking during treatment due to interaction of the chemo with the liver, but of course the VA think all Veterans are drunks. Ask you oncono man he will tell you. I for one after recovering from my last chemo, went and bought me a six pack and refused to share (hmmmm maybe all veterans are drunks). Anyway just check with your Dr he will tell you according to your type treatment what is best.
Happy Smiles
Tjhay
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