Just Found Out

Ron49
Ron49 Member Posts: 91
edited March 2014 in Head and Neck Cancer #1
My wife and I have just found out the lump on my neck is cancer and are waiting for surgery. In the mean time the lymph gland on my neck feels and looks like it is huge. The unknown is so scary and the internet is a blessing and a curse. CT scans shows the tumor is putting pressure on the artery and vein in my neck and my throat looks abnormal on the left side. The Dr says that nothing will be done with the tumor in my neck until a surgery to remove my tonsils and he can look around to determine origin of the cancer. Anyone have a similiar story? We are looking for any info we can get.
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  • DJG1
    DJG1 Member Posts: 121
    Many Been There
    Hello Ron,
    Sorry you to hear of your news, but glad you found this site. There is a lot of information 1st hand from patients that have the same thing you speak about. I was diagnosed in April 2010 with SCC cancer, stage 3. The primary was in my right tonsil, and had spread to two lymp nodes in my right side. Had three teeth extracted and a partial neck dession in Aug 10, removed tonsils and 4 lump nodes. Started radiation treatment middle of Sept and finished about 5 weeks go. My advise to you is to ask questions before you proceed with treatment and feel comfortable with the doctors and treatment plan. It could be the most difficult thing you have done, but it is doable. Getting a 2nd or 3rd opinion is suggested. You will find on this site, there is a variety of treatment, some surgery, radiation, chemo, some have all, some have one or two of the options. Everyone reacts differently to each treatment, so make sure you are comfortable with the treatment plan you choose. Are you HPV+? If you do not know, ask you ent to test. I was negative, my was beleived to be tobacco related. If you have any specific questions, please feel free to ask.
    Debbie
  • debbieg5
    debbieg5 Member Posts: 167
    lumps
    Ron, my husband discovered his cancer the first time by detecting a lump in his throat while he was shaving. He was never a smoker. They suspected it might be his tonsils and put him under to check it out and remove them if necessary. But they discovered the origin was base of tongue. He did not have any surgery then but had 40 sessions of radiation and some chemo. that seemed to take care of everything....for 2 1/2 years. It has now returned. In hind sight, I wonder if things would have been different if the lymph nodes had been removed surgically back then. But, of course, there is no way to tell.
    Best of luck in which ever treatment you end up having.
    Debbie
  • Hal61
    Hal61 Member Posts: 655
    Sorry to hear
    Hi Ron, tough news for the holidays, but I'm glad you're here given the situation. I got my news at about this time last year, so I know, we all know, how you feel. Just know that this can be beat, and this site is the best source for support and information. For now, tonsils out, and a thorough diagnosis are the first steps to recovery. Come back here often for advice.

    best, Hal
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    Hi Ron
    You are in the best place for help now, many on this site have been there and are now survivors and so will you. Cancer sucks and so does the treatment but you can survive it.

    All the best to you and your wife as you start the race, and know this that we will all be here for you when you cross the finish line.
  • mixleader
    mixleader Member Posts: 267 Member
    Just Found Out
    Hi, Ron. I'm sorry to hear about your condition. Many on this site have had similar issues and this is a really good place for support and advice. Believe me that all of us on this site know how scary this is. I think a lot of us do the internet research thing and yes it can be very scary as well. I found that sometimes I had to just shut down the research and go do something else. It is very easy (and human) to dwell on all of the horrible things that we find and that tends to get us all upset and depressed. Every situation is different and where there is life, there is hope. I know there were times when I wanted to give up, but I kept on fighting and I am doing pretty well these days.
  • mswijiknyc
    mswijiknyc Member Posts: 421
    Something similar
    Patrick also had the same problem - the tumor was wrapped around his carotid artery. The tumor he has now I believe is putting pressure on the nerves. I am not sure if this happens to everyone, but the tumor altered his personality. He got very agitated very easily because the tumor was cutting off the flow of blood to his brain.

    If the doctor can't tell the origin from the scan and is doing surgery anyhow, is it possible to remove the tumor while you are there? Makes sense to me instead of going on the table twice. Also if you are not entirely comfortable with the first doc you saw, find someone else and get another opinion. I'm having to do that now and it's a pain!

    Think happy thoughts - we are here for you anytime you need :)
  • oldcamper
    oldcamper Member Posts: 27
    been there done that
    Yes you have come to the place with the answers, I was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer in a lump in my neck and tonsil, they found that the tonsil was the primary source. The tonsil was removed during the biopsy as my Doctor was an agresive one. and I liked that about him. No need to let it sit there if you recognize it and just wait for a test result to come back. Anyway I had 6 teeth pulled to prevent future problems as I my treatment was Radiation and Chemo at the same time. My lump in my neck grew to be very large (about the size of an apple) in about 5 weeks time and my doc recomended things and I just did them without waiting for results to come back. It was growing so fast I didn't want to delay anything. or have something cause a delay. shortly after all the prep stuff (teeth being pulled, G-Tube, and Port tube). treatment started. after 2 months of radiation and chemo. I followed that with a surgery to remove the leftovers. its been 14 months now and my appointment on friday the 17th said I was still clear. as for advise I would have to say, keep a very positive attitude and eat soft food. Drink water!!!! Lots of water.

    Kevin
  • sweetblood22
    sweetblood22 Member Posts: 3,228
    oldcamper said:

    been there done that
    Yes you have come to the place with the answers, I was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer in a lump in my neck and tonsil, they found that the tonsil was the primary source. The tonsil was removed during the biopsy as my Doctor was an agresive one. and I liked that about him. No need to let it sit there if you recognize it and just wait for a test result to come back. Anyway I had 6 teeth pulled to prevent future problems as I my treatment was Radiation and Chemo at the same time. My lump in my neck grew to be very large (about the size of an apple) in about 5 weeks time and my doc recomended things and I just did them without waiting for results to come back. It was growing so fast I didn't want to delay anything. or have something cause a delay. shortly after all the prep stuff (teeth being pulled, G-Tube, and Port tube). treatment started. after 2 months of radiation and chemo. I followed that with a surgery to remove the leftovers. its been 14 months now and my appointment on friday the 17th said I was still clear. as for advise I would have to say, keep a very positive attitude and eat soft food. Drink water!!!! Lots of water.

    Kevin

    Hi Ron. I was sort of in
    Hi Ron. I was sort of in your shoes two years ago. I had just a swollen lymph node in oct of 08 and by December it was the size of a large lemon. I had a fine needle biopsy which showed SCC. They didn't want to take it out until they found the primary, which they never did. I had a modified neck dissection in Jan of 09. They took my left salivary gland, and 23 lymph nodes, three were positive for cancer. I was stage iv unknown primary. I then had 30 rads, no chemo and have been out of treatment since 5/15/09.

    Sorry you are starting this battle but I am so glad you found this site. The people here are so knowledgable and extremely supportive. Wish I would have found it before rads.

    Wishing you only the best. Please feel free to ask any questions or vent when you need to.


    Sweet
  • Ron49
    Ron49 Member Posts: 91
    debbieg5 said:

    lumps
    Ron, my husband discovered his cancer the first time by detecting a lump in his throat while he was shaving. He was never a smoker. They suspected it might be his tonsils and put him under to check it out and remove them if necessary. But they discovered the origin was base of tongue. He did not have any surgery then but had 40 sessions of radiation and some chemo. that seemed to take care of everything....for 2 1/2 years. It has now returned. In hind sight, I wonder if things would have been different if the lymph nodes had been removed surgically back then. But, of course, there is no way to tell.
    Best of luck in which ever treatment you end up having.
    Debbie

    Hi Debbie,

    Thanks so much for the reply. Any and all info at this time is so helpful. I do feel like I want the tumor out of my neck but the Dr is saying it may be too large for surgery alone.

    Thanks again Debbie!
  • Ron49
    Ron49 Member Posts: 91
    Hal61 said:

    Sorry to hear
    Hi Ron, tough news for the holidays, but I'm glad you're here given the situation. I got my news at about this time last year, so I know, we all know, how you feel. Just know that this can be beat, and this site is the best source for support and information. For now, tonsils out, and a thorough diagnosis are the first steps to recovery. Come back here often for advice.

    best, Hal

    Hi Hal,

    Thanks for taking the time to reply to me. I am overwhelmed at the response. It is so nice to know and hear from others who have been through a similiar situation. Thanks for the positive words, it means alot to me to hear and know it is treatable.

    Thanks again!
    Ron
  • Ron49
    Ron49 Member Posts: 91
    Hondo said:

    Hi Ron
    You are in the best place for help now, many on this site have been there and are now survivors and so will you. Cancer sucks and so does the treatment but you can survive it.

    All the best to you and your wife as you start the race, and know this that we will all be here for you when you cross the finish line.

    Hondo, Thanks for your reply and the words of encouragement. It means so much to hear from others that have been through something similiar. I heard this was an amazing site and so far it seems to be more than that.
    Ron
  • Ron49
    Ron49 Member Posts: 91
    mixleader said:

    Just Found Out
    Hi, Ron. I'm sorry to hear about your condition. Many on this site have had similar issues and this is a really good place for support and advice. Believe me that all of us on this site know how scary this is. I think a lot of us do the internet research thing and yes it can be very scary as well. I found that sometimes I had to just shut down the research and go do something else. It is very easy (and human) to dwell on all of the horrible things that we find and that tends to get us all upset and depressed. Every situation is different and where there is life, there is hope. I know there were times when I wanted to give up, but I kept on fighting and I am doing pretty well these days.

    Thanks for the info. I truly
    Thanks for the info. I truly appreciate hearing from others who have been through it. Glad to hear you are doing well.
    Ron & Robyn
  • Ron49
    Ron49 Member Posts: 91

    Something similar
    Patrick also had the same problem - the tumor was wrapped around his carotid artery. The tumor he has now I believe is putting pressure on the nerves. I am not sure if this happens to everyone, but the tumor altered his personality. He got very agitated very easily because the tumor was cutting off the flow of blood to his brain.

    If the doctor can't tell the origin from the scan and is doing surgery anyhow, is it possible to remove the tumor while you are there? Makes sense to me instead of going on the table twice. Also if you are not entirely comfortable with the first doc you saw, find someone else and get another opinion. I'm having to do that now and it's a pain!

    Think happy thoughts - we are here for you anytime you need :)

    Hi, great question and I will definitely ask that during my pre op. I am not sure if I will have surgery before or after christmas. I am ready anytime and just want to start with treatment. That probably sounds nieve right? I guess I don't know yet what I am in for but the lump is big and I can feel it inside.

    Thanks for taking the time to reply to me and your encouraging words. It is so nice to hear from others who have had similiar symptons.

    Ron & Robyn
  • Ron49
    Ron49 Member Posts: 91

    Hi Ron. I was sort of in
    Hi Ron. I was sort of in your shoes two years ago. I had just a swollen lymph node in oct of 08 and by December it was the size of a large lemon. I had a fine needle biopsy which showed SCC. They didn't want to take it out until they found the primary, which they never did. I had a modified neck dissection in Jan of 09. They took my left salivary gland, and 23 lymph nodes, three were positive for cancer. I was stage iv unknown primary. I then had 30 rads, no chemo and have been out of treatment since 5/15/09.

    Sorry you are starting this battle but I am so glad you found this site. The people here are so knowledgable and extremely supportive. Wish I would have found it before rads.

    Wishing you only the best. Please feel free to ask any questions or vent when you need to.


    Sweet

    Thank you! This site is
    Thank you! This site is awesome and it is so nice of you to share your story with me. My wife helped me setup my account today and post my first blog and post on the expressions gallery. I am overwhelmed by the response. It is so helpful to hear from real people. Thanks for the words of encouragement!
    Ron
  • mswijiknyc
    mswijiknyc Member Posts: 421
    Ron49 said:

    Hi, great question and I will definitely ask that during my pre op. I am not sure if I will have surgery before or after christmas. I am ready anytime and just want to start with treatment. That probably sounds nieve right? I guess I don't know yet what I am in for but the lump is big and I can feel it inside.

    Thanks for taking the time to reply to me and your encouraging words. It is so nice to hear from others who have had similiar symptons.

    Ron & Robyn

    not naive
    just ready to get down to business. it's all good :)
  • 3Mana
    3Mana Member Posts: 811
    Ron49 said:

    Thank you! This site is
    Thank you! This site is awesome and it is so nice of you to share your story with me. My wife helped me setup my account today and post my first blog and post on the expressions gallery. I am overwhelmed by the response. It is so helpful to hear from real people. Thanks for the words of encouragement!
    Ron

    Just wanted to say HI
    Hi Ron,
    So sorry you've found this out just before Christmas. I don't have any experience with this type of cancer, but usually like to read different posts. My husband passed away in March from Lung cancer. Actually he was doing pretty good, but had a severe reaction to Avastin which was one of the chemos he received only once.
    Anyhow I just want to wish you good luck when you have the surgery. I'll say a prayer for you. Tell your wife to be strong" "Carole"
  • ekdennie
    ekdennie Member Posts: 238 Member
    second opinion
    I am so happy that you were able to find this website. there is always someone on who can help, and if they are not on today, they will be soon. I can not relate as far as location of tumor and since I don't know what type, I can't relate there either but I understand about the unknown and the internet.
    From the time you get diagnosed it can be very scary. then you have to determine which option your doctor offers you is the best for you. Unless your tumor is very fast growing, things can progress very slowly. while waiting, get a second opinion...it never hurts to see another doctor and you might get a less invasive option. My tumor was in my hard palate and had grown into my sinuses. I had to debate between seeing the doctor everyone said was the best in my area, but who had a backlog due to a death in his family or seeing someone else who was available right away. I chose to wait for the best. I am very glad I did...he was the right fit for me. while waiting for my surgery I went to my family physician and asked him what I could do to improve my recovery time post surgery. (I am the mother of three kids under 5, my youngest at the time of diagnosis was 4 months old) he ran blood work and was able to get me started on iron pills so that I wouldn't be anemic when my surgery came. he also said to exercise as much as I could...it gets your blood pumping which helps healing!
    It is important that you become your own advocate. ask dozens of questions about what will happen, what your options are, why they recommend those options, how soon they need to begin, etc. if at all possible, write everything down and then if you don't feel 100% comfortable with the options...wait a day to decide. it will leave you feeling in charge and more confident when it comes time to have treatment.
    Be very careful with online resources...many will just make you depressed with inaccurate information for your type of tumor. I even found one site that I thought was telling me accurate prognosis rates, only to read the fine print that indicated the last patient treated was treated in 1990 and that they were just indicating who was still alive at the time of the survey, it didn't include who had died from natural causes or who had died from the cancer. I ended up trying to read the actual document, not the summary with graphs that was online and found that most of those who were listed as deceased had died due to old age. they had been in their late 70's and 80's at the time of diagnosis! I am 31 years old...that sort of information didn't give me quite what I needed. a lot of research and improvements in treatments has happened in the last 10 years. with the surgery I had, the doctor didn't even have the equipment to perform 2 years ago! I found a better study that concluded in 2008...with vastly different prognosis rates! My tumor prognosis went from 50-75 in the first study to 75-95% in the second, with only one death caused my the type of rare tumor I have (minor salivary gland tumor called Mucoepidermoid Carcinoma).
    Ask if you need a PET scan or other diagnostic test before your surgery.
    Wishing you the very best. You and your family will be in my thoughts and prayers.
    Hugs!
  • adventurebob
    adventurebob Member Posts: 691
    Hi Ron
    I had a huge lump on mine also. After neck dissection and diagnosis a treatment plan was laid out. I then took a few weeks to get second and third opinions before any treatment was started. Not sure if you're feeling rushed or pressured to get going but you can always slow things down to a pace you're comfortable with. I'm sorry that you have cancer. It is scary. The people on this board really help with that. Not so much for the rest of the internet. Take very good care of yourself during this time. Whatever makes you feel good and supports your health. My best to you,

    Bob
  • connieprice1
    connieprice1 Member Posts: 300 Member
    hpv +
    Hi Ron, I am sorry to see you here but this site has helped my wife and I as the people here know more about the treatments and survival and side effects than some doctors. My wife Connie has cancer at the base of her tongue which spread locally to the lymph nodes in neck. My wife's lymph nodes (2) swoll up to the size of a golf ball from the time she received her initial diagnosis until she received her 1st round of induction chemotherapy. (approximately 2 months)It takes time for diagnosis, biopsy, we needed assistance from hospital because we did not have insurance, once accepted it took 10 more days for 1st appointment and then it took another 10 days from 1st appointment for all the scans, tests etc. to start the chemo. We were hoping for surgery to remove the lymph nodes but it was too late for that and she was prescribed 9 weeks of chemo followed by 7 weeks of radiation. I was afraid that we had waited too late to treat this because the nodes had become so large her appearance looked scary. After the 1st treatment the lymph nodes responded immediately to the chemo and in 4 days 80-90% of the swelling had gone down to almost normal. The reason I wanted to let you know this Ron is because your lymph nodes will probably respond well to chemo also, at 1st when I found out that she could not have surgery to remove the nodes I thought I had let my wife down. So right now the most impotant things you need to do is 1. Try to find out where the primary tumor is located. 2. Find out if the tumor is HPV positive which will give you a better prognosis 3. Find out where you will receive your treatment and what your treatment will be. 4. Try to receive treatment at a cancer treatment center that specializes in cancer care. I wish you well my friend and remember you have friends on this site that are willing to help you and want you to beat this disease. Your friends, Homer & Connie Price
  • Jimbo55
    Jimbo55 Member Posts: 590 Member
    Welcome Ron
    Ron, I had a similar diagnosis experience. I had a swelling on the left side of my neck that was definitely noticeable, though I wouldn't classify it as huge. A biopsy could not determine the origin of the cancer, but during surgery to remove the lymph node it was pinpointed as base of tongue cancer stage 4. Went through 7 weeks of radiation and 3 concurrent chemo (cistplatin) treatments. Am 5 months out of treatment now and the 1st post treatment CT scan was clean. Hope things turn out well for you. You definitely found the right place to be, many compassionate, caring people here. Cheers

    Jimbo