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jenjerandkatesmom
jenjerandkatesmom Member Posts: 37
edited March 2014 in Colorectal Cancer #1
I have not been active on this board for about a year and 1/2 . I was happy to see so many people still active and supportive. Not sure what caused me to stop participating. I guess I just got a little cocky and thought I could handle this cancer thing all by myself. Since my last post I had surgery on my left lung (lobectomy) for a metastatic tumor Jan. 2010. At that time my PET was clear. A follow up PET in June showed 3 lymph nodes that were suspicious. All very small. I decided to postpone any treatment until they showed growth which they did in September. I started Vectibex alone for 3 cycles but one of the lymph nodes grew significantly. Started Folfuri 4 weeks ago and just had my 3rd treatment yesterday. The oncologist cannot feel the largest lymph node at all now so it seems the chemo is working. I'll have another CT mid-January.
I have always tried to live in today and not project too far into the future . It appears that I am one of those people that just needs to learn to live with cancer since it is refusing to die despite all the treatment. Most days I do just fine especially after I pray. I'm well aware that cancer will shorten my life. I think I have been doing some grieving lately and I am not really in any life threatening condition right now so I can't figure out what is bringing this on. Any ideas?

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  • Crow71
    Crow71 Member Posts: 679 Member
    I have been feeling the same
    I have been feeling the same lately. I've always been positive through the ups and downs. For me, I think the Christmas season gets me down from time to time. For example, I'm getting my 4 year old son some real tools for Christmas - hammer, screw driver etc. Some tools, like a saw or knife, he's not ready for. I'll get them next year. So then I start thinking, "What if I'm not here next year? Who the hell is going to teach him how to saw? WHo is going to teach him how to use a knife?" So then I'm starting to tear up in the tool section of Home Depot, which is one of the manliest places on the planet, and not one where crying is allowed. You can cry all you want in the window treatment section, but not in tools. I was Kim was with me to keep me focussed. I'm usually not like this, but I've had some bad scans for the last several months. I'm really nervous about the January scan. I think that the holidays add just enough emotion to make dealing with cancer a little too hard sometimes.

    But I'm not always sitting around boo-hooing. I'm pretty determined to have a great holiday. I hope you can do the same. We might as the well.

    Take Care,

    Roger
  • CherylHutch
    CherylHutch Member Posts: 1,375 Member
    Welcome back!
    Oops, sorry, Chemo brain... I'm soooo bad with names if they aren't under your picture or the messages are signed with them, so I'll just call you JJK :)

    I'm sorry the damn cancer refuses to die... I'm sorry for everyone here on the board that that seems to be the case, including myself. So, I guess that also means I feel sorry for myself, which some days are worse than others. But like both you and Roger have said... it's not like we spend the days tearing up and feeling sorry for ourselves... but there are moments (some days way worse than others) where reality hits us and not only do we feel a little sorry for ourselves, we can get downright scared.

    I find this a fascinating subject. I'd say for 96% of the time, I don't think about it. I have a very busy life and other than the aches and pains (and there are a LOT of those), I'm too busy to think of dying. Besides, the way I look at it is, if I can keep up with the life I've made for myself, then I'm way too energetic and healthy to actually be on death's doorstep. I refuse to think that yes, but all it takes is for the lung tumours to start growing at a pace that no treatment can keep up with them, let alone get them under control and then my energy/health will crash and it could be just a matter of weeks or days. I just can't think of those kinds of realities... and if my mind does slip in that area, yes I get scared and depressed.

    I think when we get devastating news like "You have cancer" and then Part II (or III or IV or V, etc) "I'm sorry, but the cancer is growing"... we all have that rug is pulled from under us reaction and then we have two choices. We can (1) freak out, get depressed, think that this is the beginning of the end, and live the remainder of our lives in fear, depression, tears and anger... or, we can (2) say, "Whatever. If you don't mind, I'm going to crawl back into my world of denial... it's way more comfortable here and I don't have to live with the fear, anger, depression, thank you very much." Now, don't get me wrong... in my world of denial I'm totally aware that I have cancer and that I'm being treated for the cancer. I'm not in denial about that. I just refuse to accept that I'm going to die soon, that I'm going to get depressed about it, that I'm going to get angry and that I'm going to accept that I'm going to die any sooner than my family/friends who don't have cancer. The only time that I fall out of this world of denial is when I go to Scan appts, and to oncologist appts. That's when reality slips in because anyone who doesn't have cancer doesn't enter these buildings unless they are accompanying someone who does have cancer. I love my oncologist... if we weren't Patient/Doctor, I have no doubt we'd be really good friends. When I go to see her, I DO get anxious... what is she going to tell me this time?? I have never had her say "There is no sign of cancer in your body at this time"... so I can only imagine how excited people get when they get that NED diagnosis (I would love to be able to feel it). Since I was first diagnosed, Dec 19, 2006, I have always had cancer. The closest I came to ned was from Oct 2007 until June 2010 when I had 11 nodules in my lungs but they were small and indolent (totally lazy and not doing anything). But then a couple of them started growing in June... hence I was put on Xeloda. When that happened... reality set in. I have cancer and it's actually growing. Scared. Is this it? Am I going to die now? There are no ways of telling people who don't have cancer how this terrifies me because unless you've been there, you really don't understand. Their assurances of "You are doing so well, you are looking so healthy, you will do well this time too" may or may not be true, but that doesn't stop me from being afraid of "But what if I don't do well?"

    So, it was easier for me to go back into my world of denial... yes, I have cancer but it's no big deal and the treatments are keeping it under control. This past oncologist appt where I found out the Xeloda is not being effective, it's time to try something different... that also through me into a bit of a panic. What does this mean? Are my lung tumours now becoming more powerful than the meds we have to fight them with? Sure, my oncologist is not discouraged yet. She says we are not in dire straights... well, she might not be , but at this time last year, I wasn't on chemo. My cancer was totally behaving itself and now it's turning into a teenage delinquent. I'm more than a little concerned what it is going to do next. But being scared/terrified, is exhausting... so I crawl back into my world of denial and believe that living with cancer is like living with AIDS. It wasn't that long ago, if you were diagnosed with AIDS, it was an automatic death sentence... maximum you had left was 2 years from diagnosis (and I lost over 25 people to that disease in the 80s). Colon cancer had that same death sentence at one point. Now, you live with AIDs and can easily live 15, 20 years or longer and a lot of AIDS patients die of other causes and not their AIDS disease. So that is how I live my life...yes, I HAVE cancer, and yes it is Stage IV so the chances of me actually getting rid of it 100% are pretty slim to none (waaaaaaaaah!) BUT, I am also living with that cancer and to live with it means shaking up and switching the treatments that will keep it under control. The treatments are not necessarily going to get rid of it forever, but they are going to fight it and keep it stable or under control. I can live with that.

    But that doesn't mean every time I have to see my oncologist (which is often) and every time I have to have a chemo treatment and every time we have to change the type of chemo because one isn't working, doesn't drag me out of my protective little bubble... but as long as the door remains open and I can crawl back in, I'm going to live comfortably. Denial is not a bad thing... and it certainly doesn't hurt as much as reality does :)
  • sfmarie
    sfmarie Member Posts: 602
    Crow71 said:

    I have been feeling the same
    I have been feeling the same lately. I've always been positive through the ups and downs. For me, I think the Christmas season gets me down from time to time. For example, I'm getting my 4 year old son some real tools for Christmas - hammer, screw driver etc. Some tools, like a saw or knife, he's not ready for. I'll get them next year. So then I start thinking, "What if I'm not here next year? Who the hell is going to teach him how to saw? WHo is going to teach him how to use a knife?" So then I'm starting to tear up in the tool section of Home Depot, which is one of the manliest places on the planet, and not one where crying is allowed. You can cry all you want in the window treatment section, but not in tools. I was Kim was with me to keep me focussed. I'm usually not like this, but I've had some bad scans for the last several months. I'm really nervous about the January scan. I think that the holidays add just enough emotion to make dealing with cancer a little too hard sometimes.

    But I'm not always sitting around boo-hooing. I'm pretty determined to have a great holiday. I hope you can do the same. We might as the well.

    Take Care,

    Roger

    Roger
    Aw I just teared up reading your post. Crying in home depot? That is totally allowed and I am surprised you did not have all of the ladies running up to you handing you a tissue. I always thought, that was one place single women should go to :)
    Stay positive! Keep on fighting and never ever give up! Eat. Eat. Eat. You need to stay strong and how awesome your son will get some real tools for Christmas. What a great dad.
    I'm here in somewhat sunny California rooting for you all the way to the NED finish line.
    Take care,
    Marie
  • Jaylo969
    Jaylo969 Member Posts: 824 Member
    Hi Jen....
    It is not always a 'bad' thing to grieve.I have been doing that myself lately for various reasons. I have never been a crier but I cry now..and that isn't bad either.

    The good thing is that all of us survivors look at the world and all that dwells therein differently now, taking nothing for granted.Rejoicing in every day and making the most of every minute. Coming face to face with our own mortality will do that to a person.

    I hope that you get to feeling better but if you don't maybe you should talk to someone about it. Perhaps your doctor? Meanwhile, stay with us. We all love to talk:)

    -Pat
  • Jaylo969
    Jaylo969 Member Posts: 824 Member
    Crow71 said:

    I have been feeling the same
    I have been feeling the same lately. I've always been positive through the ups and downs. For me, I think the Christmas season gets me down from time to time. For example, I'm getting my 4 year old son some real tools for Christmas - hammer, screw driver etc. Some tools, like a saw or knife, he's not ready for. I'll get them next year. So then I start thinking, "What if I'm not here next year? Who the hell is going to teach him how to saw? WHo is going to teach him how to use a knife?" So then I'm starting to tear up in the tool section of Home Depot, which is one of the manliest places on the planet, and not one where crying is allowed. You can cry all you want in the window treatment section, but not in tools. I was Kim was with me to keep me focussed. I'm usually not like this, but I've had some bad scans for the last several months. I'm really nervous about the January scan. I think that the holidays add just enough emotion to make dealing with cancer a little too hard sometimes.

    But I'm not always sitting around boo-hooing. I'm pretty determined to have a great holiday. I hope you can do the same. We might as the well.

    Take Care,

    Roger

    Roger
    I don't want to hijack the original thread but please know that I think of you every day and I just wish I could do something for you. Sending massive loads of sparks your way.
    Give the family hugs & kisses.

    -Pat
  • AnneCan
    AnneCan Member Posts: 3,673 Member
    Welcome back!
    With regards to your grieving, all I can say is this cancer is a rollercoaster of emotions. Sometimes it is really hard to tell what is causing an emotion at any one point in time. I hope you will come back here often.
  • tootsie1
    tootsie1 Member Posts: 5,044 Member
    Welcome back
    The way you're feeling is so understandable. Just realizing that you're going to have to deal with this for the rest of your life is a sobering thought. And Christmas and all the family doings makes you think about how much you want to be with your family, and the what ifs come creeping in big time.

    Glad you came back on. Don't be a stranger, okay?

    *hugs*
    Gail
  • tootsie1 said:

    Welcome back
    The way you're feeling is so understandable. Just realizing that you're going to have to deal with this for the rest of your life is a sobering thought. And Christmas and all the family doings makes you think about how much you want to be with your family, and the what ifs come creeping in big time.

    Glad you came back on. Don't be a stranger, okay?

    *hugs*
    Gail

    Thanks
    All of your comments were a quick reminder to me how important it is to stay in touch to get the boost I need to get me out of my doldrums and back to a hopeful life that cancer can only take away IF I let it. Love ya all!
    P.S. I've cried in Home Depot, too. My husband's fav store. I started wondering who would go with him after I'm gone. What a nut I am at times.
    Love, Sharon ( Mother of Jen, Jeremy and Kate)