Beef - Its Whats for Dinner

Kongo said:

Interesting Post
Beau,

Thanks for sharing this with us and for highlighting the sponsorship of the Beef industry in this study. What a surprise that the authors of this study couldn't find any correlations of beef use to prostate cancer!!! LOL

Interestingly, this was not a study per se, but a study of studies. While not delving into each of the potential study references, the criteria outlined in the abstract gave the research team a very broad latitude on what to include or not include in their review.

The other interesting thing is that this study looked at the differences between "red meat" and "processed" red meat and found no significant statistical variation. To me, that was like a big, "so what?" In my opinion, the germane question is not whether you eat fresh steak or "processed meat" but whether you eat ANY meat or not. What are the results of carefully controlled studies between men who eat no meat or very little meat compared to men in the USA who eat a "normal" diet of meat. I am not holding my breath for the Cattlemen's Beef Board to sponsor that type of study.

The devil is in the details on these types of studies and I am sure that many men who don't believe diet affects their health (or cancer) will read the headline and say: "See, there's no evidence!" Those who believe otherwise will say, "This study doesn't say that all that read meat doesn't hurt you!"

It's sort of like the global warming debate...one group can look at weather patterns and correlate them to industrial activity and CO2 emissions and say we're heating up the planet and another group will say "now way, look at the snowfall in Buffalo this week...there is no global warming"

Again, thanks for the post.

Beef & Dairy
23 years ago my hubby stopped eating beef and dairy, our doctor suggested it as he had migraines.It worked a treat.About 10 years ago he developed IBS and has been very careful with his diet.Lots of veg and fruit etc.Last June he was diagnosed with PC Gleason 9 PSA 29 mets to lymph nodes.Found during a routine check up as he had no symptoms or complaints in that area.He was put on Casodex 150 and his PSA went down to 9.6 that was the lowest.It has climbed and jumped around since currently at 115.He had radiation treatment in August for mets to his spine.He had no symptoms until recently.He also has a hormone shot every three months this was added at the beginning of the year.In September I thought he had a stroke and called for an ambulance he had Hyponatremia his serum sodium was 102 should be 135 to 145 if memory serves.Our son and I were told he would not live through the night, he was home from hospital in 12 days.He has had back pain on and off for the last few weeks but seems to be improving.No extra treatment has been added at this time, just pain killers.Oncologist thinks he will add Zometa after Christmas.My hubby does take supplements and vitamins etc we both think these have been helpful.As for the diet I think it probably does have an effect but only if you start early in life.My husband is 73 so not a suitable candidate for aggressive treatment.We live in Northern Ireland so are treated under the National Health Service,not a lot of info forth coming from the doctors and we are not encouraged to get too involved with treatment decisions either.However we are not giving up and will continue to explore every avenue we can.I am 55 and our son is 23 much too young to be left without him.

bdhilton said:

If the National Cattlemen's
If the National Cattlemen's Beef Association funded report says Beef is OK then by all means eat up…I’ll have my extra charred on the grill and mooing in the center!!! Just kidding folks…but “range” cattle without hormones or other injections (let call if organic beef) is probably not too bad for you in moderation… My primary meat is Sockeye Eye Salmon but a nice steak and a few scotches once in awhile are nice and make life worth living in this PCa survivor’s opinion…Peace

Moderation
I agree that a good steak every now and then is a treat! I am absolutely sure that diet has an impact on health (cancer, obesity, diabetes, etc.) and overall well being. I also think that moderation is a key. Almost anything to excess has got to be bad - well almost anyting?

griff 1 said:

beef
hey bd hows it going i have not been on for awhile. i probably eat too much beef. but what the heck moderation i guess huh. griff

Griff…for sure do not
Griff…for sure do not spend my life here but I do check in from time to time…Life is good probably drinking to much wine but what the heck…I am on a count down for another PSA test this month and I hate the week or so up to the test and then the week my oncologist makes me wait for the results…but I guess “it is what it is” so enjoy life one day at a time-Peace B