Food Matters

Nana b
Nana b Member Posts: 3,030 Member
edited March 2014 in Colorectal Cancer #1
I was watching a documentary yesterday called Food Matters, I was surprised that they were giving patients over 10,000 mil of vitamin C. It is based on the Gerson Therapy and claim vitamin C in high doses can cure cancer. Very interesting. I think there is a book out. I watched it on Netflex (instant watching). I am going to inquire on the cost of going to their clinic in Tijuana Mexico. The reason they are situated there is because they can't treat cancer with vitamin C in the States. I would not treat yourself based on my comment. :).

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  • geotina
    geotina Member Posts: 2,111 Member
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    Hey Nana:
    It is my understanding the clinic costs around $5,500 per week. You have been NED for a while so why do you want treatment from them? I read their treatment is pretty intense. Check their web site but I think they have some type of clinic or something around San Diego. There was a thread on them about 2 weeks ago.

    Don't forget to keep us informed on anything you find out. I'm on the fence about them. Some people swear by Gerson and some think it is quackery so any first hand info you can pass along would be appreciated.

    Take care - Tina
  • Nana b
    Nana b Member Posts: 3,030 Member
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    geotina said:

    Hey Nana:
    It is my understanding the clinic costs around $5,500 per week. You have been NED for a while so why do you want treatment from them? I read their treatment is pretty intense. Check their web site but I think they have some type of clinic or something around San Diego. There was a thread on them about 2 weeks ago.

    Don't forget to keep us informed on anything you find out. I'm on the fence about them. Some people swear by Gerson and some think it is quackery so any first hand info you can pass along would be appreciated.

    Take care - Tina

    Hi, well do
    Their office is in San Diego but they practice in Mexico.
  • gfpiv
    gfpiv Member Posts: 59 Member
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    Nana b said:

    Hi, well do
    Their office is in San Diego but they practice in Mexico.

    Vitamin C and Chemo
    For those on active chemo, please be cautious about taking high dose Vitamin C.

    An integrative medicine specialist at MSKCC recommended me against it, per the following study.

    "Supplementing With Vitamin C May Reduce Effectiveness of Chemotherapy Drugs, Study Shows"

    http://www.webmd.com/cancer/news/20081001/vitamin-c-chemotherapy-bad-combo

    -Chip
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  • lesvanb
    lesvanb Member Posts: 905
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    Been on High dose IV vitamin C for one month
    to deal with the 2 metabolic <1cm nodules bilateral in my lungs. No side effects noted and able to continue working and exercise and weightlifting (modified because of port placement) I am following the University of Kansas protocol with my primary medical oncologist's support. I will be scanned the second week of December and hoping for stabilization. Still haven't had the lung biopsy yet though will see the thoracic surgeon soon for a consult. (was going to be tomorrow but there is a winter storm in the way of me in central Wyoming and Salt Lake city tonight and tomorrow.) I had a port placement a month ago too to get the 2-3x/week infusions and my oncology nurse has been amazed at how quickly that has healed. IV Vitamin C is also documented to be very helpful in healing from surgery (my internal med/anthroposophical doc wanted me on it before a lung biopsy. I also would stay on IV Vitamin C if I have to go on chemo.

    all the best, Leslie
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    lesvanb said:

    Been on High dose IV vitamin C for one month
    to deal with the 2 metabolic <1cm nodules bilateral in my lungs. No side effects noted and able to continue working and exercise and weightlifting (modified because of port placement) I am following the University of Kansas protocol with my primary medical oncologist's support. I will be scanned the second week of December and hoping for stabilization. Still haven't had the lung biopsy yet though will see the thoracic surgeon soon for a consult. (was going to be tomorrow but there is a winter storm in the way of me in central Wyoming and Salt Lake city tonight and tomorrow.) I had a port placement a month ago too to get the 2-3x/week infusions and my oncology nurse has been amazed at how quickly that has healed. IV Vitamin C is also documented to be very helpful in healing from surgery (my internal med/anthroposophical doc wanted me on it before a lung biopsy. I also would stay on IV Vitamin C if I have to go on chemo.

    all the best, Leslie</p>

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  • lesvanb
    lesvanb Member Posts: 905
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    Kathy
    Yes I'm doing it alone right now since both my oncologists have said that waiting and watching the nodules is one of the options (little change from June to the Sept scan). I chose that so that I could get on the Vitamin C first, especially before the lung biopsy. I also wanted to be on it if/when I have to start chemo. So glad to hear that it's making a difference in how you feel! I feel great, and continue to feel stronger though that was happening before I went on the Vitamin C. Also have been honing diet and doing Chi Gung which has also helped with energy levels. I am thrilled that we will be able to compare notes.

    all the best, Leslie
  • Nana b
    Nana b Member Posts: 3,030 Member
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    lesvanb said:

    Kathy
    Yes I'm doing it alone right now since both my oncologists have said that waiting and watching the nodules is one of the options (little change from June to the Sept scan). I chose that so that I could get on the Vitamin C first, especially before the lung biopsy. I also wanted to be on it if/when I have to start chemo. So glad to hear that it's making a difference in how you feel! I feel great, and continue to feel stronger though that was happening before I went on the Vitamin C. Also have been honing diet and doing Chi Gung which has also helped with energy levels. I am thrilled that we will be able to compare notes.

    all the best, Leslie

    nice discussion...

    nice discussion...
  • Kathleen808
    Kathleen808 Member Posts: 2,342 Member
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    interseting
    interesting
  • tanstaafl
    tanstaafl Member Posts: 1,313 Member
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    diet, supplements, IV C with chemo
    We have adapted some ideas of the Gerson diet into our diet plans, after combining others' point of view too. This includes potassium, magnesium, iodine content, natural, T3 content thyroid compound for fT3 thyroid normalization, and a vegetable laden ginger-onion-garlic soup at lunch and dinner, daily. But no coffee, either way.

    We started IV vitamin C the day after surgery in April, wanted IV vitamin C same day as surgery but it didn't happen. When I talked with Brightspot Clinic in KS about IV C in April, they were very supportive about high dose supplements (D3, E succinate + natural E, K2, coQ, lipoic, fish oil, etc) and chemo. One of our doctors got the IV C protocol from U Kansas. Today was IV C #108, 75 grams C, at home. IV vitamin C, along with lots and lots of supplements, helps control wife's toxicity effects from 5FU to stay on daily oral chemo, plus cimetidine. Wife is likely in the 95-98th percentile of 5FU toxicity reactions.

    Although my wife had some 5FU toxicity build up last month, after several months straight on oral chemo and then an adjustment, she's never had a chemo "sick day". WBC is reasonably good, 7+ most of the time, the CA 19-9 biomarker is marching down, and she's still on continuous chemo.
  • ritaclough
    ritaclough Member Posts: 44
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    IV C
    Kathy,
    I go to Cancer Treatment Centers of America in IL. My first treatment is Nov 1st. I am also going to be on the folfori. I'm going to place a call tomorrow and tell them I would like to have an IV C also! Thanks for this interesting read. I've not heard of this before!!
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    ritaclough said:

    IV C
    Kathy,
    I go to Cancer Treatment Centers of America in IL. My first treatment is Nov 1st. I am also going to be on the folfori. I'm going to place a call tomorrow and tell them I would like to have an IV C also! Thanks for this interesting read. I've not heard of this before!!

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  • traci43
    traci43 Member Posts: 773 Member
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    very interesting
    I'm looking at having to take FOLFIRI and would be very interested in how the vit C helps with this. Please keep us posted!
  • Erinb
    Erinb Member Posts: 293
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    Our integrative doctor here
    Our integrative doctor here in rural ohio treats with vitamin C IV. If that is what you mainly want, you could check out your options near you.
    Erin
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    traci43 said:

    very interesting
    I'm looking at having to take FOLFIRI and would be very interested in how the vit C helps with this. Please keep us posted!

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  • ketziah35
    ketziah35 Member Posts: 1,145
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    Carefulllllllll! Coretta
    Carefulllllllll! Coretta Scott King went through a similar treatment with a Mexican clinic that quickly went out of business after she left. You can google this information as i don't know the particulars. All i'm saying is do your homework before you go south of the border.
  • traci43
    traci43 Member Posts: 773 Member
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    Hi Kathy
    I'm going to check this out with my medical onc and with the UCLA doc that I'm going to in a few weeks for nutritional/supplement counciling. I don't know where I'd go or how much this costs, but I'd be willing to give it a shot! I live in the Los Angeles area, so someone has to do this somewhere close by. Thanks, Traci
  • traci43
    traci43 Member Posts: 773 Member
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    ritaclough said:

    IV C
    Kathy,
    I go to Cancer Treatment Centers of America in IL. My first treatment is Nov 1st. I am also going to be on the folfori. I'm going to place a call tomorrow and tell them I would like to have an IV C also! Thanks for this interesting read. I've not heard of this before!!

    Rita keep us posted
    I hope you do well. Let us know how treatment goes. My MIL is thiking of going there, she's got stage IV lung cancer. Best wishes, Traci
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    ketziah35 said:

    Carefulllllllll! Coretta
    Carefulllllllll! Coretta Scott King went through a similar treatment with a Mexican clinic that quickly went out of business after she left. You can google this information as i don't know the particulars. All i'm saying is do your homework before you go south of the border.

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