Just curious... Dr. Oz in People magazine this week...
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I caught something on theAnneCan said:Hi Holly
I just had a look at the article online. It seemed pretty brief, but it looks like he is going to address it on his tv show + wants to save details for that. I guess he is bringing some awareness to colon cancer. What did you think?
I caught something on the news about him coming on later in the evening and then missed it!0 -
His showNana b said:I caught something on the
I caught something on the news about him coming on later in the evening and then missed it!
Saw interview with his wife, apparantly he filmed his colonoscopy for his show and they found a polyp which was removed. From the part of the interview I saw I got the impression that all is well;lucky he had the scope when he did
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Hi Holly
I read the actual article today (not the online version). I still think it is good that he is bringing attention to this rotten disease, but I didn't like the "spin" in the article. Apparently Oz made a comment to the effect of they caught this early; if it was later + went to his liver he would be a "goner". As someone who has had spread to my liver, I found this offensive. They also really made it sound like he had a brush with death, but this was a pre-cancerous polyp. I think this makes a great story for his season opening week. Thanks for bringing this to my attention; I probably would have missed it.0 -
I read the online versionAnneCan said:Hi Holly
I read the actual article today (not the online version). I still think it is good that he is bringing attention to this rotten disease, but I didn't like the "spin" in the article. Apparently Oz made a comment to the effect of they caught this early; if it was later + went to his liver he would be a "goner". As someone who has had spread to my liver, I found this offensive. They also really made it sound like he had a brush with death, but this was a pre-cancerous polyp. I think this makes a great story for his season opening week. Thanks for bringing this to my attention; I probably would have missed it.
I read the online version and it was more Pollyanna than the written article in the magazine. I know that the guidelines call for screening at 50, something I wish they'd change.
I wrote this at the colon club, so I'm just cutting and pasting here:
To be truthful, I was NOT impressed with that article. There was too much gloom and doom in that article for finding only a polyp and having it removed.
Wanna know my favorite part of that article? Lemme quote: "A few more years and it becomes this big mass that goes through the wall of the intestine and into the liver. By the time you find it, you're a goner."
Very poor choice of words. There are plenty of stage IV with liver mets that are alive today because they had compassionate and caring MD's who chose to try something instead of saying, "Give up, you're a goner."
Nobody's a goner. We don't have expiration dates. I actually found that quote very offensive and insulting.
I don't watch his show and I never watch Oprah, but I did read this article with interest and see how he would handle it. Scary isn't finding the polyp and having it removed. Scary is finding a tumor the polyp made and then going from there. What I wouldn't give to have just had a polyp.
It was not a brush with death and I feel he and his family is making way to much of this. Yeah, screenings come earlier, but really, what else changes? He certainly ate well, exercised and did "all the right things".
I've just had a bad week and it really set me off to read that stage IV's are goners. I even went so far as to write the editor of People.
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Good for you Holly!!! GoodHollyID said:I read the online version
I read the online version and it was more Pollyanna than the written article in the magazine. I know that the guidelines call for screening at 50, something I wish they'd change.
I wrote this at the colon club, so I'm just cutting and pasting here:
To be truthful, I was NOT impressed with that article. There was too much gloom and doom in that article for finding only a polyp and having it removed.
Wanna know my favorite part of that article? Lemme quote: "A few more years and it becomes this big mass that goes through the wall of the intestine and into the liver. By the time you find it, you're a goner."
Very poor choice of words. There are plenty of stage IV with liver mets that are alive today because they had compassionate and caring MD's who chose to try something instead of saying, "Give up, you're a goner."
Nobody's a goner. We don't have expiration dates. I actually found that quote very offensive and insulting.
I don't watch his show and I never watch Oprah, but I did read this article with interest and see how he would handle it. Scary isn't finding the polyp and having it removed. Scary is finding a tumor the polyp made and then going from there. What I wouldn't give to have just had a polyp.
It was not a brush with death and I feel he and his family is making way to much of this. Yeah, screenings come earlier, but really, what else changes? He certainly ate well, exercised and did "all the right things".
I've just had a bad week and it really set me off to read that stage IV's are goners. I even went so far as to write the editor of People.
Good for you Holly!!! Good for us!!0 -
Kathy... I'm still livid about that....ktlcs said:Did he really?
Did he really have the nerve to say that? I don't watch his show and don't think I'll start now
Kathy
Here's what C3 had to say...
http://fightcolorectalcancer.org/policy_news/2010/09/dr_oz_youre_scaring_people0 -
Thanks Holly!HollyID said:Kathy... I'm still livid about that....
Here's what C3 had to say...
http://fightcolorectalcancer.org/policy_news/2010/09/dr_oz_youre_scaring_people
I had a look at this article. I don't think they are very happy with Dr. Oz. I wonder if overall he is going to get more negative publicity than positive.0 -
Oz has lost credibility in my eyesHollyID said:Kathy... I'm still livid about that....
Here's what C3 had to say...
http://fightcolorectalcancer.org/policy_news/2010/09/dr_oz_youre_scaring_people
You know, it's too bad... with his show and his "following", this is a man who could do a lot of good... for a lot of conditions. But the way he's taken this and run with it, he's lost all credibility in my eyes as a "Doctor" and as a humanitarian. Yes, he's 'pretending' that he's using his "near death" experience for the good of the nation and if he can get one person in to get screened that would not have gone in, then he will have done a marvelous thing. Blah! That is NOT why he's doing that... he's taking this common screening, with a very common finding (especially after age 50) and is using it because he sees $$$ and ratings!
I was always a little "iffy" about his alternative practices but gave him the benefit of the doubt. I thought he did a decent job of taking subjects that normally could be very confusing to the layperson and put them in words and examples where the layperson could understand them. There were quite a few times where I said to myself, "Hey, I didn't know that!" but then, because I didn't know it, I have no idea if what he was telling his audience was true or not. I just assumed, as a doctor, of course he's telling the truth and educating his audience.
HA! Well now comes the big old colonoscopy. A procedure that I think pretty much everyone on this board knows more about them than the average doctor, so hearing his drama and "near death experience" made me realize this so called doctor doesn't have a clue what he's talking about when it comes to colonoscopies and findings. The polyp that was found (yes, ONE polyp) was not cancerous... it wasn't even "pre-cancerous"... it was a POLYP. Now yes, over time, it might have become pre-cancerous and then with more time become cancerous, and then started growing. IT might have become a full blown malignant polyp turned tumour ten years from now... and then again, it may never become malignant. So panic should set in because of a polyp that was found today MIGHT be cancer ten years from now?? Oh please, try not to lose any sleep over this, Dr. Oz... and how nice of you not to ruin your daughter's wedding by telling your kids that Daddy was near death's doorstep.
Not only is Oz using this to assure his show of ratings, he has shown that he, as a doctor, doesn't have a clue what he's talking about! So rather than push for earlier screenings and not waiting until you are 50, rather than telling your audience that being healthy and eating the way Oz teaches you is no guarantee of not getting polyps and no guarantee of not getting some form of cancer... he makes it all about him and how he has beaten death at it's own game. $$$
As for the polyp turning into a mass, breaking through the intestinal wall and attaching itself to the liver... hello??? Have any of us hear of this huge mass breaking through an intestinal wall and glombing onto the liver?? No! Many of us have had tumours that have perforated the intestinal wall and that is when mega pain will set in because now that abdomen will become infected due to the hole in the intestinal wall. There is no way you would be able to live with the perotonitis infection in your abdomen while waiting for this tumour/mass to attach itself and take over the liver.
Pure drama... plain and simple, and I am very disappointed that Oz portrays himself as a doctor when he doesn't know what he is talking about.0 -
LMAOCherylHutch said:Oz has lost credibility in my eyes
You know, it's too bad... with his show and his "following", this is a man who could do a lot of good... for a lot of conditions. But the way he's taken this and run with it, he's lost all credibility in my eyes as a "Doctor" and as a humanitarian. Yes, he's 'pretending' that he's using his "near death" experience for the good of the nation and if he can get one person in to get screened that would not have gone in, then he will have done a marvelous thing. Blah! That is NOT why he's doing that... he's taking this common screening, with a very common finding (especially after age 50) and is using it because he sees $$$ and ratings!
I was always a little "iffy" about his alternative practices but gave him the benefit of the doubt. I thought he did a decent job of taking subjects that normally could be very confusing to the layperson and put them in words and examples where the layperson could understand them. There were quite a few times where I said to myself, "Hey, I didn't know that!" but then, because I didn't know it, I have no idea if what he was telling his audience was true or not. I just assumed, as a doctor, of course he's telling the truth and educating his audience.
HA! Well now comes the big old colonoscopy. A procedure that I think pretty much everyone on this board knows more about them than the average doctor, so hearing his drama and "near death experience" made me realize this so called doctor doesn't have a clue what he's talking about when it comes to colonoscopies and findings. The polyp that was found (yes, ONE polyp) was not cancerous... it wasn't even "pre-cancerous"... it was a POLYP. Now yes, over time, it might have become pre-cancerous and then with more time become cancerous, and then started growing. IT might have become a full blown malignant polyp turned tumour ten years from now... and then again, it may never become malignant. So panic should set in because of a polyp that was found today MIGHT be cancer ten years from now?? Oh please, try not to lose any sleep over this, Dr. Oz... and how nice of you not to ruin your daughter's wedding by telling your kids that Daddy was near death's doorstep.
Not only is Oz using this to assure his show of ratings, he has shown that he, as a doctor, doesn't have a clue what he's talking about! So rather than push for earlier screenings and not waiting until you are 50, rather than telling your audience that being healthy and eating the way Oz teaches you is no guarantee of not getting polyps and no guarantee of not getting some form of cancer... he makes it all about him and how he has beaten death at it's own game. $$$
As for the polyp turning into a mass, breaking through the intestinal wall and attaching itself to the liver... hello??? Have any of us hear of this huge mass breaking through an intestinal wall and glombing onto the liver?? No! Many of us have had tumours that have perforated the intestinal wall and that is when mega pain will set in because now that abdomen will become infected due to the hole in the intestinal wall. There is no way you would be able to live with the perotonitis infection in your abdomen while waiting for this tumour/mass to attach itself and take over the liver.
Pure drama... plain and simple, and I am very disappointed that Oz portrays himself as a doctor when he doesn't know what he is talking about.
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