Tamoxifen and Leg Cramps~ what have you done about it???? OUCH!!!!
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I Feel Your Pain
I got them too, but only on my left calf. I was so paranoid when they first started I made my doctor order an ultrasound to make sure it wasn't a blood clot.
Turned out it was fine. They come and go and seem to get worse if I'm stressed. I haven't done anything for it, but I've heard calcium supplements can help?
Hope they subside.
Sally0 -
Glad to hear it!chenheart said:Thanks for asking~ I am
Thanks for asking~ I am feeling really, frighteningly well, actually. It does scare me only because I am waiting for the proverbial other shoe to drop, and pain or something to set in...honestly, if I didn't know I was sick, I wouldn't know I am sick! I am still doing everything I always did~walking the 3 miles a day, being part of my book club, going out to dinner with friends and family, cleaning the house, cooking and eating dinner, shopping~ absolutely everything! I feel lulled into a state of denial, and it is unnerving sometimes. If that makes any sense at all!
Hugs,
Chen♥
Enjoy feeling great and I hope it continues for you throughout treatment and beyond. Glad you started this post-lots of good things to try! I took my B vitamin today. I buy 2 avacados every time I go to the store so I have that covered. I forgot to get bananas today, darn! And love the soap idea, even if it doesn't help it certainly can't hurt! I'll have to read through again to see if I missed anything.0 -
tamoxifensal314 said:I Feel Your Pain
I got them too, but only on my left calf. I was so paranoid when they first started I made my doctor order an ultrasound to make sure it wasn't a blood clot.
Turned out it was fine. They come and go and seem to get worse if I'm stressed. I haven't done anything for it, but I've heard calcium supplements can help?
Hope they subside.
Sally
leg cramps im used to potassium def. what i really need to know is what do you do when you sweat through everything you own overnight0 -
tamoxifensal314 said:I Feel Your Pain
I got them too, but only on my left calf. I was so paranoid when they first started I made my doctor order an ultrasound to make sure it wasn't a blood clot.
Turned out it was fine. They come and go and seem to get worse if I'm stressed. I haven't done anything for it, but I've heard calcium supplements can help?
Hope they subside.
Sally
leg cramps im used to potassium def. what i really need to know is what do you do when you sweat through everything you own overnight0 -
I havent had leg cramps, butdena brannan said:tamoxifen
leg cramps im used to potassium def. what i really need to know is what do you do when you sweat through everything you own overnight
I havent had leg cramps, but i do get hot then cold then hot. I dont sweat too badly, but in the heat or sun my skin feels prickly. I had leg cramps when i was preganant I learned to never flex my feet downward and thry stopped. hope it continues to work0 -
Leave it to this group...carkris said:I havent had leg cramps, but
I havent had leg cramps, but i do get hot then cold then hot. I dont sweat too badly, but in the heat or sun my skin feels prickly. I had leg cramps when i was preganant I learned to never flex my feet downward and thry stopped. hope it continues to work
To confirm my suspicion (that Tamoxifen can indeed be blamed on my terrible foot cramps) AND to offer up creative solutions! I know that potassium is good for charlie horses, so I've taken it on occasion, but I really hate bananas (unless they're in banana bread...hmm...maybe I've got to find a light muffin recipe?). LOVE tonic water, but didn't know about avocados being so high in K--will try them too.
The crazy thing is that I went to my massage therapist (OMG, I leave there feeling like jelly) and he spent the first 1/2 hour on one foot. And the next 1/2 hour on the other. That's how bad they were! It suddenly dawned on my that my doctor's assistant has asked me a few times if I have leg cramps (nothing of great note), but maybe that's what's causing the feet to cramp! And here I was blaming it on the switch from sandals/bare feet to closed shoes. DUH!
Thanks for all of the info/tips, ladies! Will let you know if the soap thing works for me. One question--do you put your feet/legs ON the bar? If so, I'm wondering if the elevation is helping too...?
Curlz0 -
My foot/leg are NOT on theCurlz said:Leave it to this group...
To confirm my suspicion (that Tamoxifen can indeed be blamed on my terrible foot cramps) AND to offer up creative solutions! I know that potassium is good for charlie horses, so I've taken it on occasion, but I really hate bananas (unless they're in banana bread...hmm...maybe I've got to find a light muffin recipe?). LOVE tonic water, but didn't know about avocados being so high in K--will try them too.
The crazy thing is that I went to my massage therapist (OMG, I leave there feeling like jelly) and he spent the first 1/2 hour on one foot. And the next 1/2 hour on the other. That's how bad they were! It suddenly dawned on my that my doctor's assistant has asked me a few times if I have leg cramps (nothing of great note), but maybe that's what's causing the feet to cramp! And here I was blaming it on the switch from sandals/bare feet to closed shoes. DUH!
Thanks for all of the info/tips, ladies! Will let you know if the soap thing works for me. One question--do you put your feet/legs ON the bar? If so, I'm wondering if the elevation is helping too...?
Curlz
My foot/leg are NOT on the soap...they are just there..on my side of the bed...one kinda at calf level, and one at the foot, but nothing special. Good luck!
Chen♥0 -
thanksCurlz said:Leave it to this group...
To confirm my suspicion (that Tamoxifen can indeed be blamed on my terrible foot cramps) AND to offer up creative solutions! I know that potassium is good for charlie horses, so I've taken it on occasion, but I really hate bananas (unless they're in banana bread...hmm...maybe I've got to find a light muffin recipe?). LOVE tonic water, but didn't know about avocados being so high in K--will try them too.
The crazy thing is that I went to my massage therapist (OMG, I leave there feeling like jelly) and he spent the first 1/2 hour on one foot. And the next 1/2 hour on the other. That's how bad they were! It suddenly dawned on my that my doctor's assistant has asked me a few times if I have leg cramps (nothing of great note), but maybe that's what's causing the feet to cramp! And here I was blaming it on the switch from sandals/bare feet to closed shoes. DUH!
Thanks for all of the info/tips, ladies! Will let you know if the soap thing works for me. One question--do you put your feet/legs ON the bar? If so, I'm wondering if the elevation is helping too...?
Curlz
Thank you for bringing this up! I thought I was going crazy! My feet and calves have been cramping so bad. I just started Tamoxifen mid-August. There are nights that my toes will shift because my feet are cramping so bad. Now I know what to look for. Knock on wood, I haven't had any weight gain, but the hot flashes are bad sometimes. I'm like a Katy Perry song, I'm HOT, I'm COLD, I'm UP, I'm DOWN... ha ha! I am definitely going to try the soap thing. I'm on 37.5 mg of Effexor too. I started out on the 75, but I was a zombie on it!! I was dozing off at work at 8:30 in the morning. Even with sleep and coffee!! I notice I get dizzy a bit from the Effexor (I'm assuming it's from that... but who knows.)
Thanks, Ladies! I appreciate your stories and tips!!0 -
Me too...
The things that have helped me the most are walking/stretching and sometimes I have to take a pain reliever...check out this website, and you can research any med...see what others have experienced...I read there that for most people, the side effects subside within a month of stopping the medication. Not sure how long you have to take it...I've been on Femara for 2.5 years, after 2.5 on Tamoxifen, and my side effects (similar on both meds) have gotten a little worse over time, but my doctor says that when I stop the meds (in April 2010), the side effects should ease quickly. Hang in there. Renay0 -
Claudia,
I had them too.
Claudia,
I had them too. Awful enough in having to have help out of the pool.
Calcium, Magnesium and Potassium. Make sure you take some of those. I can't remember the amounts, but your primary doctor should help with that information. Oncologist, just aren't into that stuff.
Best,
SIROD0 -
MGSIROD said:Claudia,
I had them too.
Claudia,
I had them too. Awful enough in having to have help out of the pool.
Calcium, Magnesium and Potassium. Make sure you take some of those. I can't remember the amounts, but your primary doctor should help with that information. Oncologist, just aren't into that stuff.
Best,
SIROD
I was on tamoxifen for 10 months and had a lot of problems with leg cramps. After I was off, I was put on Magnesium because my primary doc checks *everything*! I realized after I was on it for awhile, how much better my feet felt. It's OTC and cheap at Sam's club.
Maureen0 -
when I was on it (am going back on it in 2 weeks) I didn't get the cramps but my restless leg syndrome was much worse. I have been off it for two months and haven't had any issue with my legs. I never made the connection. Just another thing to look forward to when I go back on it.
Helen0 -
A week later...helen e said:when I was on it (am going back on it in 2 weeks) I didn't get the cramps but my restless leg syndrome was much worse. I have been off it for two months and haven't had any issue with my legs. I never made the connection. Just another thing to look forward to when I go back on it.
Helen
And I'm still sleeping w/a bar of soap under the bottom sheet, down by my feet. I admit that I've also been drinking grapefruit juice each day to up the potassium, but that didn't start for a couple of days after putting the soap in the bed. Can't be sure yet what's working, but I'm NOT COMPLAINING!!! :-)
THANKS FOR THE TIP!
Curlz0 -
Wow am I glad this post has
Wow am I glad this post has gotten bumped back up - i found out that I will be starting on Tamoxifen soon - i didn't think I would because im such a weak receptor, only 1-4%, but my Dr. feels this is enough for me to still benefit from taking Tamoxifen. And hey, if it'll offer me even a little bit of extra protection from this coming back - im gonna take it! I never researched it because i didn't think it would apply to me.
I hope I dont get the leg cramps - with both of my pregnancies I would get leg cramps at night when I wasn't drinking enough milk during the day - i found when I drank more milk, I didn't get the cramps. Hopefully if i get the leg cramps i can keep them at bay with the milk, toxic water (love that!! , soap in the bed and cucumbers (because i just CANT eat bananas!!)
*hugs*
Heather0 -
Another one who hates bananas--I love it!Heatherbelle said:Wow am I glad this post has
Wow am I glad this post has gotten bumped back up - i found out that I will be starting on Tamoxifen soon - i didn't think I would because im such a weak receptor, only 1-4%, but my Dr. feels this is enough for me to still benefit from taking Tamoxifen. And hey, if it'll offer me even a little bit of extra protection from this coming back - im gonna take it! I never researched it because i didn't think it would apply to me.
I hope I dont get the leg cramps - with both of my pregnancies I would get leg cramps at night when I wasn't drinking enough milk during the day - i found when I drank more milk, I didn't get the cramps. Hopefully if i get the leg cramps i can keep them at bay with the milk, toxic water (love that!! , soap in the bed and cucumbers (because i just CANT eat bananas!!)
*hugs*
Heather
Glad I'm in such good company! :-)
Fwiw, everything I read/heard was about LEG cramps. Never heard anything about feet, so it took ME a couple of weeks before the light bulb went off. I've been on the Rx since early July, but I really didn't start moving my arse around a whole lot until mid-Sept--and that's right about when I started noticing the foot cramps. More exercise = more need for potassium for me, I guess!0 -
cramps, charlie horsejo jo said:Me also...i never connected
Me also...i never connected mine to the tamoxifen...thought it was from the chemo. Mine wasnt just during the night...it was during the day as well. I would also get them in the arches of my feet and it literally made my toes curl...it hurt.
Ive been on tamoxifen almost 3 months now and now that i think about it, its been almost a month since ive had any...they just went away on there own. I love bananas and i was eating them all the time even during the cramping...so either they werent working or i was just that low on calsium that it took forever to work.
I hope you find relief with the soap in the bed thing.
I never in million years Until reading here would have thought connected to tamoxifen. I have oncologist appt next week. I will mention them to her-in past I never thought to say anything.
see learn something new every day right? could be connection of the two..mmmmm0 -
ahh the painsea60 said:YES!!!!
I hate them! They're so painful. I wasn;t sure why I was getting them but now it makes sense since I'm on that too.
I also get foot/toe cramps where my feet just ball up. I know I must look like an idiot because when one hits, I do alot to hopping & jumping.
A really good friend of mine told me that when you have a cramp, take about a teaspoon of mustard...something about the tumeric.
I gotta try it, I just keep forgetting.
Blessings,
Syl
It seems like lasts for ever..I had 2 in one night so counted for second one-just over min..seemed like an hour to me0 -
Bump upCurlz said:Another one who hates bananas--I love it!
Glad I'm in such good company! :-)
Fwiw, everything I read/heard was about LEG cramps. Never heard anything about feet, so it took ME a couple of weeks before the light bulb went off. I've been on the Rx since early July, but I really didn't start moving my arse around a whole lot until mid-Sept--and that's right about when I started noticing the foot cramps. More exercise = more need for potassium for me, I guess!
Bumped up for MGM42
Hope this helps.
Sher0 -
The soap solution
I have a friend, an old university swim coach, who swears by the bar of soap under the sheets. I could hardly believe it but she has used it for years and it works for her. I took tamoxifen for 6 years and never had leg cramps from it --only hot flashes.0 -
STAR Trial
The STAR trial was just completed, which compared the Evista type drug (raxofeine ??? sp) and tamoxifen. Onocology researchers were SURPRISED to find that leg cramping was a side effect of tamoxifen and at the number of women who complained of severe leg and foot cramping. Duh. All they needed to do was read these boards. My info comes from a news article on breastcancer.org. I, too, have these cramps throughout my body. Been on tamox for 13 months. They just started in full force about 6 weeks ago. I'm going to try diet tonic water with a bit of fruit juice at night, the soap in the bed thing, massage, accupuncture, an electric blanket to keep my legs warm at night, and spliting my dose to 10mg in the AM and 10 mg at night. At this point I will try anything. If something works, I'll gladly post it. Hugs, Marilynn0
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