Does your chicken have big breasts?

BethInAz
BethInAz Member Posts: 203 Member
edited March 2014 in Breast Cancer #1
Okay - so I saw my oncologist for my 3 month checkup and asked about the soy question - can I have it or not?? His comment was that some soy can actually be beneficial because it is a weak estrogen and can latch onto the cell and when the strong estrogen comes around it sees that the cell is already "full" and moves on. Interesting concept. What he did say to worry about if we want to do so is to avoid chickens, eggs, and dairy because of the female hormones given to cows and chickens to get better product. I've wondered about those big chicken breasts that I get at the store. They never were that big when I was a kid! My oncologist said to try to get organic when you buy dairy/chicken/eggs. Interesting, eh?
Bon Appetit! Beth

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  • MyTurnNow
    MyTurnNow Member Posts: 2,686 Member
    #2
    Beth, I agree that the
    Beth, I agree that the chicken pieces in the store do seem to be getting bigger and BIGGER. I do tend to eat chicken and fish and once in a blue moon, beef. Thanks for the info and I think I'll definatately search this out because I do have estrogen positive bc. Thanks and take care.
  • m-star
    m-star Member Posts: 441
    #3
    MyTurnNow said:

    Beth, I agree that the
    Beth, I agree that the chicken pieces in the store do seem to be getting bigger and BIGGER. I do tend to eat chicken and fish and once in a blue moon, beef. Thanks for the info and I think I'll definatately search this out because I do have estrogen positive bc. Thanks and take care.

    i saw a program on tv a
    i saw a program on tv a couple of years ago about store bought chicken. It is injected with water the a) make it fuller so it looks like you're getting more meat and b) so it weighs more so you pay more for a smaller piece of checken that has been filled with water.
    Cant remember who did the programme,but they tested it out with 2 identically weighed chicken breast fillets,and injected one of them to the maximum they could with water.The difference was HUGE!!! It wa about 60% larger and weighed significantly more! But same meat content. Robbery!!!! Still doesn't stop me eating it though.
  • MyTurnNow
    MyTurnNow Member Posts: 2,686 Member
    #4
    m-star said:

    i saw a program on tv a
    i saw a program on tv a couple of years ago about store bought chicken. It is injected with water the a) make it fuller so it looks like you're getting more meat and b) so it weighs more so you pay more for a smaller piece of checken that has been filled with water.
    Cant remember who did the programme,but they tested it out with 2 identically weighed chicken breast fillets,and injected one of them to the maximum they could with water.The difference was HUGE!!! It wa about 60% larger and weighed significantly more! But same meat content. Robbery!!!! Still doesn't stop me eating it though.

    M-star, now maybe if they
    M-star, now maybe if they were injecting with vodka, like YOU, that would be acceptable. Sorry, I just couldn't resist. Have a great day!!
  • m-star
    m-star Member Posts: 441
    #5
    MyTurnNow said:

    M-star, now maybe if they
    M-star, now maybe if they were injecting with vodka, like YOU, that would be acceptable. Sorry, I just couldn't resist. Have a great day!!

    LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

    LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • roseann4
    roseann4 Member Posts: 992 Member
    #6
    You must have a great doc.
    Your doc is saying what most doctors don't seem to address at all. Mine said that the soy issue is still ???. From what I have read, I agree with your oncologist. Soy can be protective but just in case, I use very little of it. I have found some great organic chicken at Wholefoods which does not contain hormones, etc. The breasts are smaller and more expensive but very tender. I don't eat beef, but can't live on fish alone.

    Roseann
  • chenheart
    chenheart Member Posts: 5,159 Member
    #7
    In a nutshell, this is what
    In a nutshell, this is what I have learned about Soy...preventatively it may indeed be good for us. Until they started eating a Western Diet, Asian women had incredibly low incidences of BC, partially due to the high amount of soy in their diets, be it tofu, edemame, etc etc. The phytoestrogen was and is healthy for women who do NOT have BC.
    If, however, our BC is Estrogen positive, the very same soy can now be potentially dangerous. If the BC we have loves and feeds on estrogen, and it can't tell the difference between natural estrogen and soy-produced estrogen, soy could be a feast for it!

    I am in the "better safe than sorry" camp. I do not avoid soy at all costs; it is nearly impossible to do that. But I don't go out of my way to add it to my diet, either! I pass on the miso soup, never add soy sauce to anythng I might be eating ( well, even without the soy-base, it is way too salty for me!)and I don't even eat the edemame appetizers. Sigh. My thinking is, if I had to take Arimidex for 5 years to block estrogen production, why go out of my way to add estrogen when I can avoid it?

    Even so, the jury is still out as far as Soy is concerned. I think by leaving it out of my diet, it may help, and can't hurt. But I am also somewhat of a hypocrite, as I do enjoy a glass of red wine with dinner. So, it's pretty much all a crap shoot, isn't it? LOL

    If it isn't soy, it will be mercury in the fish, or salt, or trans-fats...

    Hugs,
    Chen♥
  • TraciInLA
    TraciInLA Member Posts: 1,994 Member
    #8
    Still giggling...
    Beth, I just want to thank you for posting this thread -- I know it's been several days now, but I STILL giggle every time I see your subject line! (I know, I know -- I'm like a very easily amused 3-year-old :-) All of us here could use a few more giggles in our day.

    Traci
  • Ritzy
    Ritzy Member Posts: 4,381 Member
    #9
    m-star said:

    LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

    LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

    LOL!

    LOL!
  • m_azingrace
    m_azingrace Member Posts: 399
    #10
    TraciInLA said:

    Still giggling...
    Beth, I just want to thank you for posting this thread -- I know it's been several days now, but I STILL giggle every time I see your subject line! (I know, I know -- I'm like a very easily amused 3-year-old :-) All of us here could use a few more giggles in our day.

    Traci

    Fooled me too...
    When I saw the subject line, I also thought it was going to be one of those funnies that our sisters like to post. What a surprise to see that it was actually some useful information to process. I have decided now to avoid "factory" eggs, chicken and dairy. I'll admit, I'm a little slow on the uptake. I never associated the tenderness in my breasts to the hormones that are added to chicken, beef and dairy feed, thinking this was just a hold-over from my "premenapause cycle tenderness" that I often experienced. Looking back, I see that there has been a connection between how much of these products I consumed and the resulting symptoms. I cannot say that the additives may have caused my cancer (can anyone?), but they certainly did nothing to prevent it, and I sure don't want them to possibly feed it! Thanks for posting this, Beth. Hugs, Gracie.
  • BethInAz
    BethInAz Member Posts: 203 Member
    #11
    m_azingrace said:

    Fooled me too...
    When I saw the subject line, I also thought it was going to be one of those funnies that our sisters like to post. What a surprise to see that it was actually some useful information to process. I have decided now to avoid "factory" eggs, chicken and dairy. I'll admit, I'm a little slow on the uptake. I never associated the tenderness in my breasts to the hormones that are added to chicken, beef and dairy feed, thinking this was just a hold-over from my "premenapause cycle tenderness" that I often experienced. Looking back, I see that there has been a connection between how much of these products I consumed and the resulting symptoms. I cannot say that the additives may have caused my cancer (can anyone?), but they certainly did nothing to prevent it, and I sure don't want them to possibly feed it! Thanks for posting this, Beth. Hugs, Gracie.

    Thanks Gracie and Traci
    Hey girls! Glad you appreciated the post. I figure we can all use some levity in this crazy life we're living now. When I talked with some others about the whole big-breasted chicken subject and the hormones that we're being "Force-fed" in our diets, somebody noted that many young gals are walking around at age 13 looking like I did when I was nursing at age 26. And our boys are getting taller all the time. Hormones in our foods? It all makes sense! My doc is a great doctor - both a PhD and oncologist specialist. I trust his knowledge and I appreciate his kind, gentle approach.
    Here's to our health!
    Beth
  • outdoorgirl
    outdoorgirl Member Posts: 1,565
    #12
    Beth
    yeah it's surprising and scary about all the hormones in what used to be "natural" food before.
    My cancer was strong estrogen fed,but I have to admit,I still eat chicken,eggs,and dairy from the store and it isn't organic.Maybe I should start though.. It's too bad that we have to worry about those things,isn't it?!
  • outdoorgirl
    outdoorgirl Member Posts: 1,565
    #13
    chenheart said:

    In a nutshell, this is what
    In a nutshell, this is what I have learned about Soy...preventatively it may indeed be good for us. Until they started eating a Western Diet, Asian women had incredibly low incidences of BC, partially due to the high amount of soy in their diets, be it tofu, edemame, etc etc. The phytoestrogen was and is healthy for women who do NOT have BC.
    If, however, our BC is Estrogen positive, the very same soy can now be potentially dangerous. If the BC we have loves and feeds on estrogen, and it can't tell the difference between natural estrogen and soy-produced estrogen, soy could be a feast for it!

    I am in the "better safe than sorry" camp. I do not avoid soy at all costs; it is nearly impossible to do that. But I don't go out of my way to add it to my diet, either! I pass on the miso soup, never add soy sauce to anythng I might be eating ( well, even without the soy-base, it is way too salty for me!)and I don't even eat the edemame appetizers. Sigh. My thinking is, if I had to take Arimidex for 5 years to block estrogen production, why go out of my way to add estrogen when I can avoid it?

    Even so, the jury is still out as far as Soy is concerned. I think by leaving it out of my diet, it may help, and can't hurt. But I am also somewhat of a hypocrite, as I do enjoy a glass of red wine with dinner. So, it's pretty much all a crap shoot, isn't it? LOL

    If it isn't soy, it will be mercury in the fish, or salt, or trans-fats...

    Hugs,
    Chen♥

    Claudia
    you are so right!
  • m_azingrace
    m_azingrace Member Posts: 399
    #14
    outdoorgirl said:

    Beth
    yeah it's surprising and scary about all the hormones in what used to be "natural" food before.
    My cancer was strong estrogen fed,but I have to admit,I still eat chicken,eggs,and dairy from the store and it isn't organic.Maybe I should start though.. It's too bad that we have to worry about those things,isn't it?!

    Making better choices
    A while ago I started avoiding cured and processed meats, mainly because of the high fat, sodium and preservatives in them. I thought it might be difficult since hubbydearest still lusts after those things--SPAM too--so he buys them and they are in the fridge. But they don't even smell good to me any more. In the city where we shop (60 miles from our rural town) there are several natural food stores. One specializes in farm-raised meats that have not been treated with hormones or antibiotics. We've decided that since their prices are about 25% higher (on average)than supermarket meats, we will get the better meat, just 25% less. We can always fill up on more veggies...what could be better? Organic eggs and dairy are not difficult to find, even in mega-marts, so that's also easy for us. Do not confuse free range with organic. Some might be, but not all. Free range birds have been allowed to roam free within a defined space, but it does not necessarily mean the the feed they eat is organic or that they are free of hormones or antibiotics.
  • TawnyS
    TawnyS Member Posts: 144 Member
    #15
    Alright.....from now on I'm
    Alright.....from now on I'm not eating anything with bigger boobies than me! Hee/Hee!
  • m_azingrace
    m_azingrace Member Posts: 399
    #16
    TawnyS said:

    Alright.....from now on I'm
    Alright.....from now on I'm not eating anything with bigger boobies than me! Hee/Hee!

    LOL@TawnyS
    Wish I could say that about my thighs!
  • Undead
    Undead Member Posts: 2
    #17
    Ritzy said:

    LOL!

    LOL!

    Geez Ritzy I love your
    Geez Ritzy I love your Garfield picture LOL !!!!
  • Undead
    Undead Member Posts: 2
    #18
    Yes I have known that about
    Yes I have known that about "no dairy" for a long time. I ate no dairy, completely vegan with juicing for 8 months, yet the ER+ recurrence tumors at the neck kept on growing and more tumors came up !!!!!

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