life after chemo, radiation, and surgery

cb330farm
cb330farm Member Posts: 3
edited March 2014 in Colorectal Cancer #1
Hi, I'm new to the site. My husband was diagnosed with colorectal cancer in 2007. He had the chemo and radiation before surgery. They removed part of his colon, did a J-pouch and reconstructed his rectum. He had an ielostomy for 6 months and was re-connected in Dec 2008. He has improved but some days he has the constant urge to have a bowel movement and his belly gurgles. I think he doesn't eat properly. He likes to skip meals. Also, when he thinks he has to go, he sits and nothing, but as soon as he get up, he has the urge again. He is VERY frustated. Has anyone out there ever had or has this problem now. Thanks

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  • NWGirl
    NWGirl Member Posts: 122 Member
    Welcome to trying to find a "new normal"
    Yup. I had surgery first, then radiation. During surgery they removed my entire rectum and I'm guessing part of my colon - but not all of it. Then had chemo/radiation after surgery. I had an ileostomy for almost a year - I had the take down surgery in November 2008. So I'm about a month ahead of your husband in recovery. That "phantom" urge to go as I call it will drive you nuts. I am finding that it gets better though - just takes time. I don't have the "urge" as much when I'm up and about as I used to, but I do still have it after I've had a bowel movement and I'm still sitting on the toilet (sorry to be so graphic). It seems like there's still more than needs to come out and I need to push - but it just won't come. I'm learning to just clean myself up and walk away. If there IS more to come, just by cleaning up and/or getting up it seems to get things moving again - but most of the time, there's nothing there and I can get up and go on about my business.

    The better my eating habits the better my colon seems to work, but even when I'm eating really well, it's no guarantee things will go smoothly through my system. I still have some good days, some bad days.

    Have you ever known anyone who lost a hand/arm/etc.? Sometimes they still get "pain" in the lost limb - even though it's not there. I wonder if this "phantom urge to go" is similar - our rectums are gone or surgically altered in one way or another. Maybe that part of our body is sending screwed up signals to our brain. Just a wild guess. It is very frustrating though, I sympathize completely with what he's going through.
  • cb330farm
    cb330farm Member Posts: 3
    NWGirl said:

    Welcome to trying to find a "new normal"
    Yup. I had surgery first, then radiation. During surgery they removed my entire rectum and I'm guessing part of my colon - but not all of it. Then had chemo/radiation after surgery. I had an ileostomy for almost a year - I had the take down surgery in November 2008. So I'm about a month ahead of your husband in recovery. That "phantom" urge to go as I call it will drive you nuts. I am finding that it gets better though - just takes time. I don't have the "urge" as much when I'm up and about as I used to, but I do still have it after I've had a bowel movement and I'm still sitting on the toilet (sorry to be so graphic). It seems like there's still more than needs to come out and I need to push - but it just won't come. I'm learning to just clean myself up and walk away. If there IS more to come, just by cleaning up and/or getting up it seems to get things moving again - but most of the time, there's nothing there and I can get up and go on about my business.

    The better my eating habits the better my colon seems to work, but even when I'm eating really well, it's no guarantee things will go smoothly through my system. I still have some good days, some bad days.

    Have you ever known anyone who lost a hand/arm/etc.? Sometimes they still get "pain" in the lost limb - even though it's not there. I wonder if this "phantom urge to go" is similar - our rectums are gone or surgically altered in one way or another. Maybe that part of our body is sending screwed up signals to our brain. Just a wild guess. It is very frustrating though, I sympathize completely with what he's going through.

    Thanks
    Thanks for answering. I entered the date wrong, my husband's re-connection date was Dec 2007. So he has been together longer than you and it sounds like you are doing better than he. I still feel that food intake is big part. He likes to skip a meal or not eat at all.
    When we are to go out w/family or friends. We usually don't go or he stays home. He just gets too nervous and then his belly gets wild on him, then he gets the urge.

    May I ask, do you take any special supplements or certain foods that work for you?

    I try to tell him to eat small amounts but more frequent (every 3-4 hours). Is that what you do?

    I don't like to pry into someone's eating habits, but any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

    I hope I don't scare anyone that reads this, I know your life will never be the same, but you
    have to know you are still here on earth with your loved ones and you can still enjoy life.

    Thanks again and I wish you good luck and a cancer-free life.
  • johnnybegood
    johnnybegood Member Posts: 1,117 Member
    cb330farm said:

    Thanks
    Thanks for answering. I entered the date wrong, my husband's re-connection date was Dec 2007. So he has been together longer than you and it sounds like you are doing better than he. I still feel that food intake is big part. He likes to skip a meal or not eat at all.
    When we are to go out w/family or friends. We usually don't go or he stays home. He just gets too nervous and then his belly gets wild on him, then he gets the urge.

    May I ask, do you take any special supplements or certain foods that work for you?

    I try to tell him to eat small amounts but more frequent (every 3-4 hours). Is that what you do?

    I don't like to pry into someone's eating habits, but any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

    I hope I don't scare anyone that reads this, I know your life will never be the same, but you
    have to know you are still here on earth with your loved ones and you can still enjoy life.

    Thanks again and I wish you good luck and a cancer-free life.

    hello
    i had surgery on dec30 with a temp iliostomy for 5 weeks was put back together on feb5 i still have problems just like your husband.i even wear a pad when i go to bed or go out some where.i dont know how to deal with this new normal.i have tried fibercom benifiber bananas nothing seems to work.i get to where i dont want to eat because of the abdominal pain and gas.hope your husband can make thru his new normal Godbless.....johnnybegood
  • kristasplace
    kristasplace Member Posts: 957 Member
    OMG! Yes!!
    I just had my reversal, and many times i experience what he's experiencing. I go and go, then when i think i'm all done and clean up, pull my pants up, then BAM!! I have to yank my pants down and hope i make the toilet even standing right over it! Other times it feels like i need to go, and just can't. I can't imagine going through this as long as he has. I'm trying to take an active role, and so i'm experimenting with different foods, only eating whole foods and mostly organic. It seems that some foods 'trigger' the urge.

    Let him know there are others out there just like him. It may give him some comfort.

    Many hugs,
    Krista
  • tiny one
    tiny one Member Posts: 465 Member
    I had my bag for 10 months, it was reversed in Dec 07. This seems to be the new norm after this surgery. It takes a long time to gain control. I take lomotil and usually won't have to go for at least 6 hours. I wear pads at all times just in case an oops happens. I just got back from Branson and had one day I had alot of pain. It felt like I had to burp but couldn't. Finally after vomiting, things started moving. I've thought about having the ileostomy bag put back on because of all the pain I've had. My surgeon said that he could remove the damaged area from radiation and put another temporary bag on. If I have surgery again it will be to put the bag back permanently. I won't go thru the pain a second time.