Angels update
michelle
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Hugggggs, Michelle
Oh Michelle... as you know, none of us are doctors or have the ability to make sense of what is going on and why Angel has to be in such pain. I just don't understand that, or how his doctors and the hospice nurses can just let him suffer in pain. Also, why does HE have to go into a pain clinic when he's in the pain he's in? If he was well enough to go to the pain clinic then chances are he wouldn't be in as much pain... and wouldn't have to actually go to the clinic.
Ok, not being from your State or country, I'm not sure how things work down here. I know up here, if a person requests to remain at home rather than go to a palliative care hospital floor or a palliative care home (I think the equivalent in the States is a Hospice Home?)... then all that would be done at the hospital for a patient in their last days, is done at home. Besides the comfort level for the patient to be surrounded by their own familiar surroundings, it also works out better for the health care system to supply care at the home than having the patient at the hospital.
I saw this first hand when my friend's husband died of lung cancer. The home care nurses that were there around the clock were all qualified to administer pain meds as needed and if they felt he needed more, it was just a phone call to the doctor and the meds were adjusted right there and then. The doctor also made regular visits out to the home. The home care nurses were there for the patient, but also for the family/friends who were there to support the patient... they were amazing and if one believes in angels on earth, then they are the palliative care home nurses (male and female).
So, I guess this is where I'm a little confused. You have mentioned that Angel does have hospice nurses coming out to the house and that the one nurse feels Angel needs to go to the pain clinic as well. Can she not arrange for the meds he needs, or arrange to have a doctor come out to the house NOW and set up the pain meds? The idea is that Angel should be resting comfortably and if it means he may be in a drugged state, if that's what it takes to take away his pain and stop the nausea, then that's what it takes. I'm not sure I understand why they are holding back on these meds?
Also, I realize your mother-in-law is there with you, but what sort of help and support are the two of you getting for YOU? It is an extremely hard thing to watch someone you love die, especially when you are having to do the cleanup, laundry, and all the physical stuff... the whole time watching him in pain. Where is the home support that you should be getting?
Like I say, I can't comment on something that I don't know anything about, so I'm just asking questions. I don't expect you, Michelle, to answer these questions. You have your hands and heart more than full... but maybe others who live in the State of Arizona can pop in and suggest help that is available that maybe you aren't aware of. There is no way you, your MIL and Angel should be struggling with this and watching the suffering. Saying goodbye is never easy, but your memories should be that he was comfortable and peaceful right up to the end... whether that is because of meds or not.
Huggggggs my friend!!
Cheryl0 -
my prayers are with you
it greatly saddens me to think about how hard a time you and Angel are having. This just shouldn't be so hard. I know when my mother was dying of lung cancer, she had to be returned to the hospital after being sent home because her pain wasn't being managed and they had to monitor her while increasing the morphine otherwise she would OD on the pain meds (like that wouldn't have been a blessing, but that's a discussion for another time). Know that you are in my prayers and that I pray for a swift and peaceful resolution to all of this for everyone involved. I pray that God sends angels to care for Angel who can efficiently and humanely manage his pain. I imagine you must be pretty much on auto-pilot, waiting for your nightmare to end but continuing to wake up and find that it continues. I don't have much more to offer but my love and prayers ... be strong.
mary0 -
I am so sorry
Michelle, I am so sorry for what you are going thru, and Angel. I truly wish that i could say or do something that would help. There really isn't anything that anyone can do, at a time like this. Years ago when we were involved with the m/c club, we lost a really good friend to cancer. It was so hard to see him, especially towards the end. Toward the end he said the only thing that helped him with the pain and nausea was pot. I don't know if it is prescribed in your area for cancer patients, or if it has already been tried. I just remember that it helped Dave. I am praying for both of you, and I hope that something helps. Please remember that you both are in our thoughts and if there is anything that any of us can do, just let us know.
God Bless You Both, Carletta0 -
Thankscolon2 said:I am so sorry
Michelle, I am so sorry for what you are going thru, and Angel. I truly wish that i could say or do something that would help. There really isn't anything that anyone can do, at a time like this. Years ago when we were involved with the m/c club, we lost a really good friend to cancer. It was so hard to see him, especially towards the end. Toward the end he said the only thing that helped him with the pain and nausea was pot. I don't know if it is prescribed in your area for cancer patients, or if it has already been tried. I just remember that it helped Dave. I am praying for both of you, and I hope that something helps. Please remember that you both are in our thoughts and if there is anything that any of us can do, just let us know.
God Bless You Both, Carletta
Angel is very stubburn on things i am sure they would come out to increase the pain pump but as always angel dosn't want that now, so he just suffers with the pain, I don;t know how he does it even before we knew he had cancer he indured a lot of pain during those months.And because he is a fighter i think thats why i got to have him a little longer because he is not ready to go.
michelle0 -
Nausea
Michelle,
I hate that you and Angel are suffering so. I wish I had words that could make a difference, just know that you continue in my thoughts and prayers. It sounds like they are trying to control the pain, I just wish it was more successful for him.
I have a pretty new-to-the-market nausea patch that has done wonders for me. I don't know if you or your doctor have even heard of it yet. It's Sancuso and I put a patch on once a week. It has completely taken care of my nausea issues. It got pretty bad while I was on chemo and radiation at the same time. It's just a thought, but I hope you can find something to help Angel.
Hugs,
Kimby0 -
Thanksnudgie said:Prayers
May prayers are with you and Angel. I will pray that it's not his time
Angel is just pretty darn tired of it all. I don't think he wants to take the nausea meds anymore either. but thanks for the info on the patch.and we do need the prayers and thoughts from everyone..
michelle0 -
Praying for you
Oh, Michelle. I'm so sorry that things are so bad for you and Angel right now. I do pray that the healthcare workers will be able to make him more comfortable. I know you're not ready to let him go yet, but I'm sure it's also very hard to see him like this. I hope you will be able to keep him a bit longer, and that he will feel better during that time.
Please try to rest and take care of yourself as much as you can.
I'll be praying for the two of you.
*hugs*
Gail0 -
This comment has been removed by the Moderatortootsie1 said:Praying for you
Oh, Michelle. I'm so sorry that things are so bad for you and Angel right now. I do pray that the healthcare workers will be able to make him more comfortable. I know you're not ready to let him go yet, but I'm sure it's also very hard to see him like this. I hope you will be able to keep him a bit longer, and that he will feel better during that time.
Please try to rest and take care of yourself as much as you can.
I'll be praying for the two of you.
*hugs*
Gail0 -
Thinking of you
I'm rather new at this cancer...this site has been a blessing. I'm praying for both of you. It's hard to watch the one you love suffer so much. You are truly a God send to hang in as long as you have and take such good loving care of him. I wish you peace.0 -
God bless you both. You'rejenben59 said:Thinking of you
I'm rather new at this cancer...this site has been a blessing. I'm praying for both of you. It's hard to watch the one you love suffer so much. You are truly a God send to hang in as long as you have and take such good loving care of him. I wish you peace.
God bless you both. You're in my thoughts and prayers.
Big hugs,
Elizabeth0 -
Thank you alllizbiz said:God bless you both. You're
God bless you both. You're in my thoughts and prayers.
Big hugs,
Elizabeth
I am truely blessed to have so many people here that are so caring and giving it really helps m e get threw the day
michelle0 -
So sorry
Dear Michelle,
You have been Angel's angel through all of this. I am so very sorry to hear his current state. His time should not be spent suffering like this. Is it possible for the hospice nurse to simply place an anti-nausea patch on Angel? Just do it matter-of-factly without making a deal about it? It's not right for him to be in so much pain and to suffer so much nausea. I realize he is stubborn, but perhaps if you just administered the patch as an SOP he wouldn't fuss about it.
Michelle, you have been so very brave and strong through all of this. I keep you both in my prayers.
Hugs,
Kirsten0 -
Thank YouGlv49 said:God Bless you and your
God Bless you and your husband. I am keeping you both in my prayers.
Gail
The nurses think that this is part of the course because the tumors are growing and pushing on things but i will see about the patch .
michelle0 -
I'm so sorryGlv49 said:God Bless you and your
God Bless you and your husband. I am keeping you both in my prayers.
Gail
I'm sorry to hear that he is not doing well at all and is so sick. It seems to me that with all the drugs they available that they should be able to make him comfortable.
You both are in my thoughts and prayers. Kim0 -
praying
Dear Michelle,
I am so sorry that Angel's pain has increased again. I know you are devastated and so tired. I pray you have some moments together filled with just the two of you, no pain, no one else , just you two.
I will continue to pray.
Aloha,
Kathleen0 -
In our thoughtsangelsbaby said:Thank You
The nurses think that this is part of the course because the tumors are growing and pushing on things but i will see about the patch .
michelle
Michelle
I feel so bad for you and Angel, I dont post often but read yours a lot.
You are such a special person the way you have dealt with this, I know nothing I can say can take away your pain, but you are the type of person everyone needs on there side just from your posts its obvious that you have given Angel the best quality of life possible.
and as hard as it is to say and I hope you understand but if I get to that point I hope my husband will deal with things as well as you have take care you and Angel are always in my thoughts and prayers
Sheri220 -
Michelle...
Dear Michelle, i can't even begin to imagine how hard this is for you. You are such an incredible person whether you feel that way right now, or not. The love and care you give to him will help him no matter the outcome. I wish so much that i could offer you any words to ease what you're going through, but such words just don't exist. I think about you and Angel every single day, and i will continue to pray, and hope for some comfort for both of you.
Much love, and many hugs,
Krista0
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