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  • CrystalW
    CrystalW Member Posts: 31

    Crystal, I love that number.
    Crystal, I love that number. 7 yrs!!! Congratulations!! You give us all hope. Love your pic.
    jan

    Seven
    Seven is a great number....There is light at the end of the tunnel. This picture has a story behind it. I'll try to keep it short. A friend of mine loves taking pictures. She came to me and said that we should document this part of my life in pictures. SO we went out one morning and did a photo shoot. This picture was taken without me even knowing she took it. I was sitting on a rock in the park talking to another friend that came with us. She had said something funny and I laughed. Kim took the picture and it turned out great. I'll post other pictures of that shoot at another time. She ended up taking about 10 rols of film and put a phot album together for me and framed the ones she thought were best. It was great fun.

    To all that are going thru treatment...Just know that you were choosen for this gift. God knows that you all can handle the beast and overcome it. We are here for a reason. Consider everyday a gift. If you are asking "why me" consider this...Why not me? We have something others don't have that God has given us...A second chance.
    Big cyber hugs to all my sisters in Pink....and all others who have looked the beast in the eye...
    Crystal
  • rjjj
    rjjj Member Posts: 1,822 Member
    lynn1950 said:

    Hi Jackie
    I hope you are feeling OK after your treatment. I am also praying for Moopy and Mimi. Just remember: Ativan IS very nice. I have fond memories of it. (The steroids kept me hopping too.) Compazine was not helpful. Zofran was good and I've heard it's good for carsickness, too and it doesn't make you drowsy! My eye doctor told me that. Unfortunately, he knows about it because his wife has cancer.

    I am a little bit farther along than you, but from reading your bio, our cancers sound very similar, except that I am HER-2 negative. I finished radiation in October and started taking Arimidex. Thanks, Kathi, for sharing that the chemo can CAUSE osteopenia or osteoporosis. Before chemo my bones were just fine, but when I had a bone scan afterwards, I had osteopenia and have wondered if that effect was from the chemo. That bone scan is important! I take a drug called Boniva once a month to prevent osteoporosis from the Arimidex.

    There is so much to learn - so many changes. It's not only the club nobody wants to join (as Lili says), it's the post-grad education none of us wanted to take!

    Remind me - are you from rural Montana? I live in rural Idaho; I moved here from Montana and always loved living there (Polson, Fortine, and Eureka).

    I too am not getting threads in my email inbox. I thought I did something bad!

    PS. You and your husband look beautiful together!

    Thanks all!
    Can't tell you what it means for you to say i look ok.. i need to hear i am not a leper which is how i felt the first couple days!! I asked my son if he wanted to see my bald head. (i was wearing a hat at the time and he replied "not really" I think it was to hard for him to take..but he stepped up a couple days later when he came in unannounced and caught me reading the paper with my bald head shining in the morning light.. he said "you look cool mom..think i'll get mine buzzed tomorrow. I guess once the shock wears off we need to accept ourselves for the beauty that lies within and hope that others see it to.
    We tried to take my pic from my cell-phone (from verizon!! Go Moopy!) and had to turn it the other way so we could not see what we were getting, but still to shy to have someone else take it. My husband is very proud of me with or without hair and calls me "curley" now.
    I plan on taking my wig in to my beautition to get it cut and styled then maybe i will post another pic. I love all you sweet brave ladies and seeing how beautiful you look without or with hair....your inner beauty and strength shines through!!
    God bless
    Jackie
  • mrmauld
    mrmauld Member Posts: 44
    Moopy23 said:

    Friday
    Thanks everyone for your good thoughts and prayers. Mimi and Mrmaud and I will have a good day on Friday, right guys? I am nervous about it but feel more confident about Ativan --thanks for the good word on that. Being able to sleep despite the steriods will be a blessing. And, the compazine really scared me when it caused my jaws to shut. It was as if I had magnets on my upper and lower jaw, forcing them together. I was a little freaked. Called doctor, and was told to take Benadryl as the jaw-locking thing is a common side effect. They used to hand out benadryl with the compazine (of course, the nurse told me that AFTER I had the reaction).

    friday
    looking forward to having a great day with many prayers going out our way and besides , my brother will be taking me and he is nervous that i will get sick. Ha Ha. Hope you get to feeling better moopy and mimi. love and prayers to my new friends mrmauld
  • mrmauld
    mrmauld Member Posts: 44
    lynn1950 said:

    Hi Jackie
    I hope you are feeling OK after your treatment. I am also praying for Moopy and Mimi. Just remember: Ativan IS very nice. I have fond memories of it. (The steroids kept me hopping too.) Compazine was not helpful. Zofran was good and I've heard it's good for carsickness, too and it doesn't make you drowsy! My eye doctor told me that. Unfortunately, he knows about it because his wife has cancer.

    I am a little bit farther along than you, but from reading your bio, our cancers sound very similar, except that I am HER-2 negative. I finished radiation in October and started taking Arimidex. Thanks, Kathi, for sharing that the chemo can CAUSE osteopenia or osteoporosis. Before chemo my bones were just fine, but when I had a bone scan afterwards, I had osteopenia and have wondered if that effect was from the chemo. That bone scan is important! I take a drug called Boniva once a month to prevent osteoporosis from the Arimidex.

    There is so much to learn - so many changes. It's not only the club nobody wants to join (as Lili says), it's the post-grad education none of us wanted to take!

    Remind me - are you from rural Montana? I live in rural Idaho; I moved here from Montana and always loved living there (Polson, Fortine, and Eureka).

    I too am not getting threads in my email inbox. I thought I did something bad!

    PS. You and your husband look beautiful together!

    hello lynn, Thought I was
    hello lynn, Thought I was doing something bad too. I also am HER2 negative but I was er and pr positive my tumor was 2cm and it was in 2 nodes. So I am taking adrimiacyn and cytoxen then taxol next. Glad you are a survivor.
  • mrmauld
    mrmauld Member Posts: 44
    rjjj said:

    Thanks all!
    Can't tell you what it means for you to say i look ok.. i need to hear i am not a leper which is how i felt the first couple days!! I asked my son if he wanted to see my bald head. (i was wearing a hat at the time and he replied "not really" I think it was to hard for him to take..but he stepped up a couple days later when he came in unannounced and caught me reading the paper with my bald head shining in the morning light.. he said "you look cool mom..think i'll get mine buzzed tomorrow. I guess once the shock wears off we need to accept ourselves for the beauty that lies within and hope that others see it to.
    We tried to take my pic from my cell-phone (from verizon!! Go Moopy!) and had to turn it the other way so we could not see what we were getting, but still to shy to have someone else take it. My husband is very proud of me with or without hair and calls me "curley" now.
    I plan on taking my wig in to my beautition to get it cut and styled then maybe i will post another pic. I love all you sweet brave ladies and seeing how beautiful you look without or with hair....your inner beauty and strength shines through!!
    God bless
    Jackie

    Jackie, you look awesome,
    Jackie, you look awesome, naked, I hope I have the courage to post a naked picture once I lose my hair. I am on day 13 maybe I just need patience. I did sleep better last night. Thanks Moopy. I do think that the first week was steroids. I'll have to tell my doctor tomorrow. Did anyone get sick their first treatment? I didn't, I did feel flu like the fist 3 days but that is all. Did I not get as much as some other people? or what? lots of love all mrmauld
  • fauxma
    fauxma Member Posts: 3,577 Member
    rjjj said:

    Thanks all!
    Can't tell you what it means for you to say i look ok.. i need to hear i am not a leper which is how i felt the first couple days!! I asked my son if he wanted to see my bald head. (i was wearing a hat at the time and he replied "not really" I think it was to hard for him to take..but he stepped up a couple days later when he came in unannounced and caught me reading the paper with my bald head shining in the morning light.. he said "you look cool mom..think i'll get mine buzzed tomorrow. I guess once the shock wears off we need to accept ourselves for the beauty that lies within and hope that others see it to.
    We tried to take my pic from my cell-phone (from verizon!! Go Moopy!) and had to turn it the other way so we could not see what we were getting, but still to shy to have someone else take it. My husband is very proud of me with or without hair and calls me "curley" now.
    I plan on taking my wig in to my beautition to get it cut and styled then maybe i will post another pic. I love all you sweet brave ladies and seeing how beautiful you look without or with hair....your inner beauty and strength shines through!!
    God bless
    Jackie

    What a sweet face. It is so
    What a sweet face. It is so weird how we are about hair. Many, many men are bald and they are still handsome and attractive but women think that when they don't have hair they will be unattractive and that is just not true. You gals are the proof of the pudding so to speak. Not one of you is any less attractive without your hair. We are just programmed to expect hair on a women's head. Maybe if baldness became a fashion statement this wouldn't be so traumatic for women. But most people would consider it weird for a women to just want to shave her head. So Jackie keep smiling you look just fine. I think you are right, your son just wasn't ready then and now he realizes that mom is mom and nothing there has changed. I think you ladies are so great and I have nothing but admiration for all of you.
  • mimivac
    mimivac Member Posts: 2,143 Member
    Moopy23 said:

    Infusion
    Hi, Jackie, I am so glad to hear your infusion went well and you got wonderful news about the additional treatments. Joe and I were thinking about you today. The herceptin is great news; unfortunately, I am what they call triple negative, so I have only the chemo and radiation. God willing, that will be enough.
    Anyway, I am so happy for your good day--and you look beautiful! I hope I can be as brave when my hair is all gone.

    Triple Negative
    Moopy,

    I am triple negative, too. Many younger women with breast cancer are. I have a wonderful (though slightly technical) article on triple negative breast cancer that I can send to you if you would like. It really discusses some of the myths about this type of cancer and talks about a lot of treatment options that go beyond the typical chemo and radiation. I am going to write down some of the suggestions and discuss them with my doctor tomorrow. Not to overwhelm you, but there are other things you can do after treatment for triple negative cancer: one is to take bone strenghteners to prevent bone mets. Also, if you express the Her/neu gene (not HER positive, but a normal expression), there is now a vaccine that is in clinical trials. Sorry if you are already up on these therapies -- just wanted to let you know. Moopy, I don't know how old you are, but there is a great board for younger ladies with breast cancer called young survival. It mostly caters to women under 40 (although there are plenty of women in their 40's who are on) and there are many triple negative ladies out there who know tons and readily share information and experiences. I wish you (and me) the best of luck tomorrow!

    Mimi
  • mimivac
    mimivac Member Posts: 2,143 Member
    CrystalW said:

    Herceptin
    Jackie, You look awesome!!!! I posted a "naked " picture of myself on here. Hope it comes thru since we are all sharing :-) I took Herceptin on a study when I was going thru treatment (2002 and '03). My study was the last leg of the study so I took the standard "adremycin/cytocin(sp) and then taxol. I took taxol once a week for 12 weeks then started Herceptin in conjuction with my radiation after taxol. Radiation was 7 1/2 weeks every day along with an infusion once a week for 1 year. This was in 2002-2003. After my clinical trial closed in (i was done with treatment in November of 03) 2004, the FDA approved Herceptin for treatment. Herceptin was the last chemo I did. I will celebrate my 7th anniversary of dx on valentines days. I am still on the study as they watch us for a 15 year period. So I go back for a visit once a year and have a MUGA scan of the heart (because this drug can do heart damage)along with my Mammograms and regular check ups with the oncologist. Keep posting here for support. The sisters in Pink all known your pain and your victories. You have a great big cyber hug from me.....Keep smiling
    Crystal

    Awesome!
    Crystal,

    Your picture is just beautiful. You look filled with joy.

    Mimi
  • mimivac
    mimivac Member Posts: 2,143 Member
    mrmauld said:

    friday
    looking forward to having a great day with many prayers going out our way and besides , my brother will be taking me and he is nervous that i will get sick. Ha Ha. Hope you get to feeling better moopy and mimi. love and prayers to my new friends mrmauld

    You will be fine.
    The best of luck and let us know how it goes.

    Mimi
  • Moopy23
    Moopy23 Member Posts: 1,751 Member
    mimivac said:

    Triple Negative
    Moopy,

    I am triple negative, too. Many younger women with breast cancer are. I have a wonderful (though slightly technical) article on triple negative breast cancer that I can send to you if you would like. It really discusses some of the myths about this type of cancer and talks about a lot of treatment options that go beyond the typical chemo and radiation. I am going to write down some of the suggestions and discuss them with my doctor tomorrow. Not to overwhelm you, but there are other things you can do after treatment for triple negative cancer: one is to take bone strenghteners to prevent bone mets. Also, if you express the Her/neu gene (not HER positive, but a normal expression), there is now a vaccine that is in clinical trials. Sorry if you are already up on these therapies -- just wanted to let you know. Moopy, I don't know how old you are, but there is a great board for younger ladies with breast cancer called young survival. It mostly caters to women under 40 (although there are plenty of women in their 40's who are on) and there are many triple negative ladies out there who know tons and readily share information and experiences. I wish you (and me) the best of luck tomorrow!

    Mimi

    Info on Triple Neg
    Mimi, thank you. Just reading your message made me feel less afraid. I haven't read anything about triple negative--scared to--so your information is all new to me. I would love to read the article. Will you let me know what your doctor says? Not sure about the Her/neu gene; I will ask. The bone meds sound like something I will need, too. I am medium/small build and mom and grandmother had severe oteoporosis. I am worried about being at higher risk of bone mets. So there too your message was a help. I am 48-- would like to go to the board you mentioned. Is it on this site?

    Before I logged in and read your message, I was feeling so scared this morning. You have made a difference for me. The sun seems a lot brighter and warmer now. Good luck to us tomorrow. I will think of you and feel comforted.
  • mimivac
    mimivac Member Posts: 2,143 Member

    Jackie you look superb. And
    Jackie you look superb. And look at your husband, he looks so proud of you. I'm glad you're handling the chemo pretty good, not much further to go for this particular chemo anyway. I don't have any experience with herceptin but I haven't heard many complaints about it. My husband loved it when I was bald, everytime he walked by he'd have to rub my head. Must of thought I was a genie or something. Actually it felt pretty good once it all came out and showers were real simple as my hair was quite long before. Your spirits sound good and that's wonderful. Hope all goes as well.
    love
    jan

    Rubbing the head
    Ha, Jan, my husband does this, too. Your scalp is so soft and it feels good!

    Mimi
  • mimivac
    mimivac Member Posts: 2,143 Member
    mrmauld said:

    Jackie, you look awesome,
    Jackie, you look awesome, naked, I hope I have the courage to post a naked picture once I lose my hair. I am on day 13 maybe I just need patience. I did sleep better last night. Thanks Moopy. I do think that the first week was steroids. I'll have to tell my doctor tomorrow. Did anyone get sick their first treatment? I didn't, I did feel flu like the fist 3 days but that is all. Did I not get as much as some other people? or what? lots of love all mrmauld

    Side effects
    Well, chemo affects everyone very differently. Some people get everything in the book, while others breeze through with barely a symptom. The only thing they can tell you for sure is that your hair will fall out if you are on certain drugs. For me, the first two treatments went fairly well. I experienced fatigue, mouth sores, weakness, muscle aches, and GI troubles on days 4-5 and then on again on day 8. Weeks 2 1/2 to 3 I felt great, like I could run a marathon. The important thing is to know that there are remedies for much of what you are feeling, though not everything. Ask your doctor about alieviating side effects and post here for ideas. There are solutions. Don't worry, everything will be fine.

    Mimi
  • mimivac
    mimivac Member Posts: 2,143 Member
    Bald pictues
    Jackie,

    You look very sweet in your pictues. I love them -- especially the one with your hat, gloves, and scarf. What a nice set for the cold winter months. You have nothing to hide, that's for sure!

    Mimi
  • Moopy23
    Moopy23 Member Posts: 1,751 Member
    mrmauld said:

    friday
    looking forward to having a great day with many prayers going out our way and besides , my brother will be taking me and he is nervous that i will get sick. Ha Ha. Hope you get to feeling better moopy and mimi. love and prayers to my new friends mrmauld

    Friday
    Hi, Mrmauld, thank you; I am feeling better, thanks to Mimi especally today, and everyone here. I will be thinking of you tomorrow and sending prayers for you and Mimi. I think we sisters in pink will have a good day. Your brother will be pleasantly surprised.
  • mimivac
    mimivac Member Posts: 2,143 Member
    Moopy23 said:

    Info on Triple Neg
    Mimi, thank you. Just reading your message made me feel less afraid. I haven't read anything about triple negative--scared to--so your information is all new to me. I would love to read the article. Will you let me know what your doctor says? Not sure about the Her/neu gene; I will ask. The bone meds sound like something I will need, too. I am medium/small build and mom and grandmother had severe oteoporosis. I am worried about being at higher risk of bone mets. So there too your message was a help. I am 48-- would like to go to the board you mentioned. Is it on this site?

    Before I logged in and read your message, I was feeling so scared this morning. You have made a difference for me. The sun seems a lot brighter and warmer now. Good luck to us tomorrow. I will think of you and feel comforted.

    Us Triple Negative ladies.
    I am glad I could make you feel a little better, Moopy. People on this board have done that for me so many times, it's crazy. I have PMed you the triple negative article. Let me know if you don't get it. I will let you know what my doctor says tomorrow. I always bombard her with questions about research studies and such that I have read. She probably thinks that I am delusional and believe myself to be a doctor. :). But I have found that you have to be pro-active in your own care. I was scared to look up stuff at first, too. In fact, I didn't for quite some time. But your doctor, no matter how good (and mine is great) does not have time to personally do hours of research on clinical trials and different treatments for each and every patient. But if you mention something, they will check into it and let you know whether it is right for you.

    Sending you big hugs for tomorrow. Have you taken your steroids yet? I took one this morning. Ugh, it makes my face ghostly white for some reason.

    Mimi

    PS. the site is youngsurvival.org. You can click on "YSC community" on the left hand side, and then "Bulletin Board." Most people post on the "General" thread. Good luck and hope to see you there. I spend much of my "work" day on these sites.
  • Moopy23
    Moopy23 Member Posts: 1,751 Member
    mimivac said:

    Us Triple Negative ladies.
    I am glad I could make you feel a little better, Moopy. People on this board have done that for me so many times, it's crazy. I have PMed you the triple negative article. Let me know if you don't get it. I will let you know what my doctor says tomorrow. I always bombard her with questions about research studies and such that I have read. She probably thinks that I am delusional and believe myself to be a doctor. :). But I have found that you have to be pro-active in your own care. I was scared to look up stuff at first, too. In fact, I didn't for quite some time. But your doctor, no matter how good (and mine is great) does not have time to personally do hours of research on clinical trials and different treatments for each and every patient. But if you mention something, they will check into it and let you know whether it is right for you.

    Sending you big hugs for tomorrow. Have you taken your steroids yet? I took one this morning. Ugh, it makes my face ghostly white for some reason.

    Mimi

    PS. the site is youngsurvival.org. You can click on "YSC community" on the left hand side, and then "Bulletin Board." Most people post on the "General" thread. Good luck and hope to see you there. I spend much of my "work" day on these sites.

    Will Take Your Advice
    You are right--I will be more proactive about researching my own care and options. My doctor is good, not great. I did go to an NCI hospital and got a second opinion and am getting TAC per her recommendation. St. Louis is 4 hours from Springfield, so I could not stay with the NCI oncologist. She said call her anytime if she can do anything for me, though, and my doctor here was very cooperative. I plan to go back to the NCI doctor as needed, and at the end of the chemo cycle for her opinion on other things I can do (thanks to you I know there ARE other things to ask about).

    Thank you for giving me the courage to educate myself better.My tumor was big with 6 out of 15 lymph nodes, so I have feared reading the worst. I will read on.

    I took Decadron at breakfast and lunch. Not sure if that is a steroid... Last cycle I could not sleep for days due to the steriods; hoping Ativan will take care of that this time around. Hope I can sleep tonight! Will visit the YSC community. Thank you again, Mimi,and I will go to the article.
  • young_one
    young_one Member Posts: 67
    Moopy23 said:

    Will Take Your Advice
    You are right--I will be more proactive about researching my own care and options. My doctor is good, not great. I did go to an NCI hospital and got a second opinion and am getting TAC per her recommendation. St. Louis is 4 hours from Springfield, so I could not stay with the NCI oncologist. She said call her anytime if she can do anything for me, though, and my doctor here was very cooperative. I plan to go back to the NCI doctor as needed, and at the end of the chemo cycle for her opinion on other things I can do (thanks to you I know there ARE other things to ask about).

    Thank you for giving me the courage to educate myself better.My tumor was big with 6 out of 15 lymph nodes, so I have feared reading the worst. I will read on.

    I took Decadron at breakfast and lunch. Not sure if that is a steroid... Last cycle I could not sleep for days due to the steriods; hoping Ativan will take care of that this time around. Hope I can sleep tonight! Will visit the YSC community. Thank you again, Mimi,and I will go to the article.

    Yep. Decadron is a steroid.
    Yep. Decadron is a steroid.

    As for size- I know how you feel. But size isn't as important anymore. More important is the cancer's response to treatment. Really. And triple negatives are generally very good responders to chemo.
  • ladybug22
    ladybug22 Member Posts: 646
    learning more each day
    Hi there I have been on heceptin for all most a year.Some time in Feb.it will end.I would go every 3 weeks.I also have a aggresive cancer not sure what is next all i do know is i am not looking back i am going forward. Good luck to you and lots of hugs comming your way.
  • Moopy23
    Moopy23 Member Posts: 1,751 Member
    young_one said:

    Yep. Decadron is a steroid.
    Yep. Decadron is a steroid.

    As for size- I know how you feel. But size isn't as important anymore. More important is the cancer's response to treatment. Really. And triple negatives are generally very good responders to chemo.

    Steroid/Good Responders
    Now I know why I haven't been able to sit down today. Thank you, Young_One. Your posts about Ativan really relieved my mind, and now this. I won't obsess about tumor size anymore and instead focus on triple negatives' good response to chemo. I have my second treatment tomorrow, along with Mimi and mrsmaud. I will welcome the cancer-killing medicine.

    And I have to say how pretty you are! Your smiling face is always nice to see.
  • lynn1950
    lynn1950 Member Posts: 2,570
    mrmauld said:

    hello lynn, Thought I was
    hello lynn, Thought I was doing something bad too. I also am HER2 negative but I was er and pr positive my tumor was 2cm and it was in 2 nodes. So I am taking adrimiacyn and cytoxen then taxol next. Glad you are a survivor.

    So what has happened to us?
    Thanks mrmauld. Glad you are a survivor, too

    So what has happened to us? We need Kathi M to help us figure out this cyber mystery.