Blood in stool still?

JMARIE66
JMARIE66 Member Posts: 55
edited March 2014 in Colorectal Cancer #1
My husband was diagnosed stage 3b colon cancer 11-30-07. He has completed 10 of 12 Folfox treatments. Over this weekend he had blood in his stool. Is this common and why now? Also, why would one become more anxious and/or depressed toward then end of treatment. It is surely understandable, but so close to the end I am in a bit of shock.

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  • Limey
    Limey Member Posts: 446 Member
    Hi JMARIE66, blood in stool is not that uncommon whenn on chemo. I would still discuss with your Oncologist but would not be too alarmed. also, for me I had depression when The chemo was ending because in some strange way, it was the security blanket that would be keeping the cancer away. I would dare to bet that this is quite common umong us that the fear and anxiety increase when we are not doing anything to fight the cancer. you may want to start a diet change, that would let your husband be able to play a part in his continued good health.
    best of luck
    Mark
  • Fergus2007
    Fergus2007 Member Posts: 109
    I just researched the epression because my father has the same problem. Here is what I found:
    Deficiencies in a number of minerals can also cause depression.

    Magnesium: Deficiency can result in depressive symptoms, along with confusion, agitation, anxiety, and hallucinations, as well as a variety of physical problems. Most diets do not include enough magnesium, and stress also contributes to magnesium depletion
    Calcium: Depletion affects the central nervous system. Low levels of calcium cause nervousness, apprehension, irritability, and numbness.
    Zinc: Inadequacies result in apathy, lack of appetite, and lethargy. When zinc is low, copper in the body can increase to toxic levels, resulting in paranoia and fearfulness.
    Iron: Depression is often a symptom of chronic iron deficiency. Other symptoms include general weakness, listlessness, exhaustion, lack of appetite, and headaches.
    Manganese: This metal is needed for proper use of the B-complex vitamins and vitamin C. Since it also plays a role in amino-acid formation, a deficiency may contribute to depression stemming from low levels of the neurotransmitters serotonin and norepinephrine. Manganese also helps stabilize blood sugar and prevent hypoglycemic mood swings.
    Potassium: Depletion is frequently associated with
    depression, tearfulness, weakness, and fatigue.

    If he is loosing blood (yes - quite common) you should check into his iron levels.
    ... but all minerals should be checked!
  • Fergus2007
    Fergus2007 Member Posts: 109

    I just researched the epression because my father has the same problem. Here is what I found:
    Deficiencies in a number of minerals can also cause depression.

    Magnesium: Deficiency can result in depressive symptoms, along with confusion, agitation, anxiety, and hallucinations, as well as a variety of physical problems. Most diets do not include enough magnesium, and stress also contributes to magnesium depletion
    Calcium: Depletion affects the central nervous system. Low levels of calcium cause nervousness, apprehension, irritability, and numbness.
    Zinc: Inadequacies result in apathy, lack of appetite, and lethargy. When zinc is low, copper in the body can increase to toxic levels, resulting in paranoia and fearfulness.
    Iron: Depression is often a symptom of chronic iron deficiency. Other symptoms include general weakness, listlessness, exhaustion, lack of appetite, and headaches.
    Manganese: This metal is needed for proper use of the B-complex vitamins and vitamin C. Since it also plays a role in amino-acid formation, a deficiency may contribute to depression stemming from low levels of the neurotransmitters serotonin and norepinephrine. Manganese also helps stabilize blood sugar and prevent hypoglycemic mood swings.
    Potassium: Depletion is frequently associated with
    depression, tearfulness, weakness, and fatigue.

    If he is loosing blood (yes - quite common) you should check into his iron levels.
    ... but all minerals should be checked!

    Found more info:

    Many of the symptoms of chronic dehydration parallel the symptoms of stress and depression!!

    When you are dehydrated, some of the things you may feel are headache, stiff or sore muscles, and lethargy. You may experience a reduced alertness and ability to concentrate, and begin to feel anxiety, fear, and depression.

    So I would think that meal replacement drinks such as Boost or O.N.E. Coconut juice should do the trick!!
  • pamness
    pamness Member Posts: 524 Member
    I was diagnosed stage IIIa in February of 07. Blood in the stool toward the end of treatment- not copious amounts but a little was a way of life for me - your entire digestive system is upset - but talk to your doctor about this. Depression at the end of treatment is common and normal - you are leaving the womb, so to speak, I was warned about it during chemo, I said "no problem", I was so wrong. I saw a therapist during treatment and started taking zoloft. At the end of treatment they upped they zoloft which helped tremendously. It is a totally common thing to have happen, urge your husband to seek treatment.

    Pam
  • jams67
    jams67 Member Posts: 925 Member
    I can totally understand the end of treatment causing stress. I felt very anxious when the onc said I wouldn't need a scan but every 6 mo. My safety net had been pulled out from under me.
    Jo Ann
  • cjf2006
    cjf2006 Member Posts: 83
    When I was on folfox with Avastin I got a bad intestinal infection...with blood and mucous. I was given antibiotics and also taken off folfox (because of bad neuropathy). It did clear up. I'm on folfiri and have seen occassional blood. Our intestinal lining takes a beating from chemo. Plus Avastin is a concern for bleeding issues. Mention it to your dr.

    As for depression, there are many causes, but I would not forget to attribute the damage that the chemo itself does. The longer you are on it, the more cumulative the effects. Just like the fatigue that takes a while to set in, so with me with the depression. Mine always subsides the further out I am from a treatment and when I get two weeks off or more, it feels like a fog is lifted and I have more zeal for living. I would agree though with the nutrient deficiency perspective. Besides everything else, chemo can deplete our bodies of minerals, etc. And the body needs good nutrition to combat the chemo that kills good cells and bad cells. And, finally, yes, dehydration, which often goes unnoticed is a factor. I have experienced that too, including fatigue associated with it.

    So be patient. The depression will pass. Oxaliplatin is pretty strong stuff. It will take a while for the body to get rid of it after his treaments stop, but it will, and the depression should improve.

    I am such a believer that depression is often associated with physical causes. Find the causes. Don't only treatment symptoms. When I realized it was largely the chemo that caused the depression, I could overcome the feeling that there was nothing to live for, nothing I wanted to do, or that it was my fault.
  • JMARIE66
    JMARIE66 Member Posts: 55
    Thanks to all who replied. My husband tt his oncologist (who assured us that all this is perfectly normal!) He also is seeing a therapist today. They called in a perscription for Lorazepam to help w/his nervous and anxious feelings...I did see an improvement last night and today and hopefully he is headed in the right direction...