New Concerns?
I haven't written for awhile or even been checking, I just got too caught up in life, which is a good thing I guess, but Christmas can do this and fortunately it was not a crazy one for me.
However, it was interspersed in the last two weeks prior to the big day with 2 unsolicited calls from my oncologist. The first to tell me that that my liver enzyemes were still slightly elevated along with my triglycerides being off and my iron was low. OK, OK, not so bad.
The second call a few days later and only few days before Christmas was to relate to me that the cat scan showed a slight thickening in the lining of my stomach, urinary tract and/or kidneys, I can't remember that part. So, she said she wanted me to see a urologist and she did set that appt. up for me and I was to see a gastroentrologist (sp?)which would be my pc physician. Both appt's. are made. She did say when I asked her if this was serious that she was sure it would turn out to be nothing. So, do I believe her? She always errs on the side of caution, she's saved my life three times, and I want an oncologist who's into overkill, but, yes I'm worried and a little scared. But wouldn't that be a strange metastasis from BC, although the beast does not have to follow the exact pattern that has been set down for us to expect, or no?? I feel like enough, enough, already God. I am sooo sick of tests and dr's appt's.
So, that's my story, morning glories, and would be much happier w/out it. Kathy
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Hi Kathy,
Scary stuff, I agree, but I really don't think you should let this hang over you this holiday season. Time to give yourself a strong talk. I am not an oncologist, nor do I play one on TV, but this would be strange mets indeed. I'm sure you would have had symptoms if it was mets. My oncologist always reminds me that just because you have breast cancer doesn't mean that other things can't be wrong with you. I would say it's probably nothing and if it is something, it's probably totally unrelated. Are you on Tamoxifen? That could explain the liver enzymes. Cat scans are not that accurate. Mine showed a lesion on the liver that turned out to be nothing.
Enjoy your holidays. I am sending you good wishes and heaps of happiness.
Hugs.
Lesley0 -
Kathy,
I agree enough already.... Try to continue to enjoy your holidays... too bad you got the phone call before Christmas... I think I would have preferred that the call get made later. But as you said your Onc errs on the caution side.... So you have done all that you can... got the appointments lined up... So try to forget it and enjoy....
I will send lots of good thought your way.
Take Care.... God Bless....
Susan0 -
Hi Kathy
I too have not been in touch. A combination of denial and Christmas. One of the reasons I didn't join a support group is because I do not want to hear the horror stories. I was given a 98% survival rate in 5 years. I was in denial of this and I still am. I truly believe that some cancer spread somewhere and they are not going to catch it because I am at such a low risk.
So, you are lucky that you have such an amazing oncologist who may be overtreating/overtesting you. You are lucky to be in such a vigilant environment. You want them to catch something early so they can nip it in the bud. In my situation they would never order a cat scan on anything except my (hopefully) noncancer breast side.
You have such an excellent chance of survival because if something is going on, they will catch it early. A lot of the statistics are based on people who are not in your position to receive early detection procedures.
Please do your best to get past this worry that you have. It is eating you up. This is the card that was dealt you and believe it or not but you are one of the lucky ones. Breast cancer is a big part of your life, try to make friends with it, work with it. I know you can do it.
I think I may have gotten over the doctors missing something about my "good diagnosis".
But this won't stop me from asking my oncologist to scan my entire body!!!
Good luck, be strong, do what you need to do, live and be happy.
Jamilli0 -
P.S.
We need you here. You are a backbone of this discussion group. I learned from you not to assume anything. Also, you reminded me (it's that denial again) that just because a woman has a mastectomy, it does not completley protect her from a recurrance.
Thank you, we're all here to support you and give you that boost you need to continue working with this cancer. I'm just starting to think that for 2007 we need to make our enemy(breast cancer) our friend and work with it rather than fight it. Fighting brings up such negative nonhealing emotions. What do you think?0 -
Thank You all for responding to me.jamilli said:Hi Kathy
I too have not been in touch. A combination of denial and Christmas. One of the reasons I didn't join a support group is because I do not want to hear the horror stories. I was given a 98% survival rate in 5 years. I was in denial of this and I still am. I truly believe that some cancer spread somewhere and they are not going to catch it because I am at such a low risk.
So, you are lucky that you have such an amazing oncologist who may be overtreating/overtesting you. You are lucky to be in such a vigilant environment. You want them to catch something early so they can nip it in the bud. In my situation they would never order a cat scan on anything except my (hopefully) noncancer breast side.
You have such an excellent chance of survival because if something is going on, they will catch it early. A lot of the statistics are based on people who are not in your position to receive early detection procedures.
Please do your best to get past this worry that you have. It is eating you up. This is the card that was dealt you and believe it or not but you are one of the lucky ones. Breast cancer is a big part of your life, try to make friends with it, work with it. I know you can do it.
I think I may have gotten over the doctors missing something about my "good diagnosis".
But this won't stop me from asking my oncologist to scan my entire body!!!
Good luck, be strong, do what you need to do, live and be happy.
Jamilli
I really did manage to forget(ho, ho, ho, read that as denial) about these things until the day after Christmas. And, I am believing you gal's.
I did do tamoxifen for 5 yrs. Lesley, and that was 9 yrs. aqgo. She would have said something if she thought it was related to that and/or the arimidex I took or the aromasin I'm on now, I think. I have to have a cat scan every 6 mos. for her to keep an eye on a cyst/lesion she discovered on my liver 3 yrs. ago.
I guess I wrote about this to help put it somewhere and then go back to some denial, great place, and also to be a part of everyone here again, since I'd been away from y'all.
I couldn't agree more jamilli, I love my Onc. Two yrs. before my second breast removal, she started me having breast MRI'S and when something showed up, 2 small masses, my other dr.'s(surgeon and radiologist) were making fun of her to me, that MRI's cause more worry due to false positives. My breast surgeon didn't believe I could feel the pain of the cancer, when pressed on. The radiologist said I was fine, my mammogram showed nothing, so the MRI was wrong, when I showed him where the pain was it turned out not to be where the MRI showed the masses. He(a private radiologist) tracked down the radiologist there and then at Sloan-Kettering and it turned out the MRI was written up wrong and the masses were exactly where my pain was, he did about 10 needle biopsies and said he didn't know if he was in the right place, but I told him he was, because I could feel the pain when he hit the right spot. Two days later he called me and told me they were malignant. So do I do whatever she tells me, YES.
I am being treated at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, a teaching hospital as well. I am so fortunate to be able to be there, living in a suburb of NYC. But you still must be your own best advocate. It's not eating me up, truly I just wanted to get it off my chest, I haven't even told my husband, why worry him when it will be most likely nothing and honestly I have made friends w/it.
I don't know, maybe you'd be interested in checking on your remaining breast with MRI'S. I think I might have had some minor calcifications there, hence her decision to do the MRI's. Yes, I am definitely into overkill right along with dear Dr. Teresa Gilewski.(my Terri)
Again and again, Thank You all for your encouraging support. The thing I want most Huggs and good thoughts and you have all sent me that.
Love and Huuuugggggs for all of us.0 -
I understand how you could be so concerned. When are your appointments with the specialists? If you're anything like me the sooner, the better to get to the bottom of it. My thoughts and prayers are with you. You have been a wonderful source of support for me and I wish you all the best. Please keep us informed!0
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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Kathy. I understand your worry, we all do. Once you have that cancer diagnosis, every ache or pain, or weird test result is going to make you wonder. I know several people who have slightly elevated liver enzymes who never had cancer and while I know this is a common met site, it can be caused by many other factors as well, even that extra glass of wine. Who knows what happens to us as we age, also? We're just the lucky ones who are under the microscope all the time. My oncologist told me that many middle-aged or older women may have atypical cells in their breasts, but unless each one had a biopsy, how would they know? It may be that the abnormal cells even come and go in all of us, also something they can't possibly check for. I think our bodies change all the time. I've learned to have a very healthy respect for that gut feeling. I knew that something was there even after a negative breast MRI, a negative breast biopsy, a negative ultrasound. Turns out I was right, and they missed it. Six months later, it was found. I can well imagine how tired you are of doctors. Even having to go to the dentist now can send me over the edge! lol. I'm very grateful for your oncologist as well, because you are with us! It was my surgeon who listened to my worries and kept looking. God bless these doctors! I guess this is our life now, and we can't stop being vigilant, but look at the payoff! We're still here, still with our families, and celebrating the holidays. Of course you're scared and worried, who wouldn't be? We're in the same boat. That's what this group is for, to keep each other afloat! Let us know how it goes and keep reaching out! A happy and healthy New Year to us all!
Hugs to everyone,
Susan0 -
Thanks so much for your support again Karen and Susabella, I do feel loved and cared for by all of you!karenack said:I understand how you could be so concerned. When are your appointments with the specialists? If you're anything like me the sooner, the better to get to the bottom of it. My thoughts and prayers are with you. You have been a wonderful source of support for me and I wish you all the best. Please keep us informed!
My appt.'s are:
Jan. 3 Gastroentrologist sp? my PCP
Jan. 5 Radiologist at Sloan (to decide on when and how much).
Jan 20 Urologist at Sloan
So, the one I would be most concerned about, stomach cancer, is my own PCP(better known as Marvelous Marvin for me) and in just a few days. Unfortunately the CD of the cat scan won't get to him before I do as a result of the holidays and that damn signing off on permission for information to be shared, which paper I only got today to sign and to return to Sloan for them to then be able to send the CD to him. But he will have the written report.
You know, I just got to thinking, writing this, maybe I can drive into Sloan on Tuesday and pick it up myself to have it for the next day's appt. with Marvelous Marvin, hmmmmm. I'm thinking this is a very good idea because what's the point w/out the CD of the Cat scan?I feel so much relieved having come up with a solution. Not that I think I came up w/that myself, it was God sought through prayer and God given through our prayers right here now!! Amazin'
This is part of the pro-active and hyper-vigilance that is so necessary for us to adopt!
Oh yes, the other thing you mentioned Susan, was the one glass of wine. I haven't had a drink in 13 yrs., 2 yrs after this boat ride we're all on together here. Decided I just didn't need to have that as part of my life anymore.
I love you all!
Here's to a very happy and OUTRAGEOUSLY healthy New Year for all of us!!!! Kathy0 -
Kathy, Thanks for your input on my bum hip! I will let you know how that goes. I like how you think. Yes, you should go and pick up your films to take with you. I know that you are afraid and I am concerned for you too. I will continue to keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Please let us know how everything goes. I do hope that 2007 will be a better health year for you. Hugs, Karen0
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