Biopsy without any bleeding

Ken71
Ken71 Member Posts: 12 Member

I'm not complaining, just curious. Had transrectal targeted biopsy (5 sites) with no blood in urine or semen. After all I've read about blood lasting for weeks, has anyone not experienced much bleeding? A pre-cancerous HG_PIN neoplasia was found. So cancer free for now!

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  • jc5549
    jc5549 Member Posts: 71 Member

    I experienced blood in my semen after both of my transperineal biopsies.

    If you had targeted biopsies only, then you had approximately 14 fewer biopsies when compared to those who had targeted + random. It does make sense you would have less bleeding. I expect there is going to be a move towards targeted biopsies only (fewer or no random sampling) as the reliability of MRI progresses in regard to diagnosing significant disease only.


    jc

  • Wheel
    Wheel Member Posts: 194 Member

    Ken,

    Good for you. I had no blood in my urine but did have the rusty semen. It might be the few cores that your Doctor took. I had 15 cores takes, 3 from a PIRADS 4 lesion that turned out benign. It was good thing my Urologist in my case did the additional grid random as that it where my cancerous cores were.

  • Ken71
    Ken71 Member Posts: 12 Member

    I asked about the random but the radiologist said he only does targeted. (My urologist does random but I wanted an in-bore MRI biopsy which he recommended). So I wonder if they missed something?

    My PSA is low (spiked to 8 from Covid then back down to 2.8). Was your PSA higher? Did the MRI show anything suspicious where the cancer was found?

  • Wheel
    Wheel Member Posts: 194 Member

    i did have a MpMRI and nothing else suspicious was seen. My urologist did the biopsy and it was a MRI fusion guided biopsy so he went first to the PIRADS 4 lesion. When I met with him a week later for the results, he even expressed his surprise at what was found. I imagine a interventional radiologist probably just goes for the lesions.
    i would watch your PSA . I don’t recall my exact numbers right now but for years it was at 1.9, then went to 3.0. My Doctor then retested in a month, went down to 2.7, quarterly check down to 2.4 (thought I was out of the woods) on my next quarterly I though maybe back to my number, but surprised back up to 3.2. We continued quarterly checks with it bouncing around. Then we did an ExoDx urine marker test and it found cancerous markers that would place my cancer more aggressive. That was thrn off to the MRI. My PSA never went over 4. I would make sure for at least the foreseeable future you get quarterly PSA checks and ask your Doctor about the ExoDx test. You can google it. If your number was high above their threshold low risk, you might want to consider discussing with your Doctor about another biopsy. It is not unusual for cores to show the cancer that were not targeted cores.

  • jc5549
    jc5549 Member Posts: 71 Member

    Ken,
    I think you are being treated the way the majority of urologists /and whoever else is doing biopsies are going. I think the value of biopsies is being questioned.

  • Wheel
    Wheel Member Posts: 194 Member

    The value of prostate biopsies is being questioned but in a light to reduce unnecessary one’s that determine a person’s cancer is low risk or a Gleason 6. The PSA may be heightened or risen but not extremely and too often everyone is rushed into the biopsy even though the result then turns out low risk. That is why they are turning to newer tests all to try and find out if the cancer likely is clinically significant before the decision of the biopsy then if so at that point to get the Gleason grade of the clinically significant cancer. That is the purpose the non invasive ExoDx urine test checking for biomarkers that are associated with aggressive prostate cancer. If it comes back low risk, a biopsy for the time being can be avoided.

  • Old Salt
    Old Salt Member Posts: 1,585 Member

    ??? Biopsies are the only tool we have to definitively diagnose 'early stage' prostate cancer.

  • jc5549
    jc5549 Member Posts: 71 Member

    Fair point Old Salt, let me be clear. I think the value of “random” biopsies is being reconsidered in the MRI era vs targeted only.