For men in their 50s or 60s who chose brachytherapy or external beam
I'm 56 but one of my lesions is near a nerve and I don't think surgery is going to both preserve sexual function and get all the cancer, so I am leaning towards radiation. Yes yes, I know I might die sooner.
For those in their 50s and 60s who chose radiation, did you choose brachytherapy or external beam, and why? How recent was your choice and do you think the technology for either has changed significantly since then?
I'm getting down to the wire for when I have to choose, and these are the questions I'm asking.
Thanks all!
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When I met with my radiation oncologist at Dana Farber Cancer Institute as I research my options (65 yo, 3+3, 7/15 cores), he said I was not a good candidate for the seeds due to my long history of BPH and frequent urination. He will not do the 5-day high dose radiation (SBRT?) as he feels this technique is too new and he does not know long-term effects yet. He is pretty conservative in his approach, so not sure if others would be more open to it.
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Thanks for your answer. So does that mean you are leaning towards an external beam treatment which is not the 5 day high dose treatment? Or something else?
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I was diagnosed at 61. I am 65 now and have gotten back my erections to the point where it was pre cancer. I had a 31 PSA, 9 gleason and seminal vessel involvement…… I chose Brachytherapy and 25 sessions of external radiation. My Brachytherapy was done with an implant. I had it done at the University of Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha. My Radiation oncologist is a Dr by the name of Michael Baine. He is so awesome ! The difference for me was the 3 years of ADT hormone therapy. I think I would have been back in the saddle pretty quick after my treatment without the ADT. Just my thoughts. Good luck
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Thanks for your answer. How did you find managing the other side effects? Is your cancer in remission now?
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I have not decided yet as my docs are saying I can wait until May (6 months after biopsy) for another check of PSA, MRI, and possibly another biopsy. Meet with a surgeon next month, then will likely decide best treatment for me.
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I did not have any side effects from any of my radiation treatments. That went as well as it possibly could have.
I am in total remission from the PC. The side effects from ADT can me difficult. I actually handled the physical side very well. Without the testosterone in my body, it turned out to be a fountain of youth. I have a full head of hair but it has really thinned. It came back big time on my head and I lost it everywhere else ! It was awesome ! lol ! I lost 50lbs and I look and feel great ! That being said….the mental part was way more challenging. I now understand how the females in our world tend to maybe think…the emotions of everyday life tend to be way more amplified and I found myself obsessing about my relationships with the people in my life. Not always a good thing. So to some it up…I am back to pre cancer form with 50 less lbs and feeling very blessed. Good luck
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well you may not want to hear this. I was 56 when I was diagnosed first of all is your cancer cribiform. If you don’t know it you better find out. Send it out for decifer testing. I will tell you why. Cancer I had was 3+4 of cribiform nature. Everything was contained at a prostrate and all that good stuff problem was I was scared to death of surgery. I chose external beam radiation with a breaking booster. After the second treatment, I could not urinate at all, I had to take Flomax from then on twice daily in order to urinate. It messed up my bowels something terrible in my bowels are still messed up to this day. After breakytherapy, I had extremely bloody hemorrhoids for about a week and then I had very loose stools, and I leaked out my rear end for about six months , then 6 years later, my PSA started to climb they did a biopsy and cancer was still there only the gleason 4 cribbiform . The tumor was right next to the marker two surgeons were convinced that it didn’t work because the cancer was Cribbiform. One surgeon told me studies as of late or showing that cribiform looks to be radiation resistant so next up surgery salvage surgery done at UCLA California I was on the table for less than two hours, catheter was no big deal. I do leak a little bit now only because it was salvage surgery, but I tell you what I did not lose any length and I can still get an interaction if I could go back I would not even think about doing radiation and barchytherapy I would remove it , if you look up the gold standard for prostate cancer, it is surgery and then God forbid it happens to come back you can do radiation and then you even have a third chance with hormone therapy. I am nine months out of salvage surgery and I am cancer free and I hope to stay that way. Just remember have it checked for cribiform the rest is up to you it’s not crib form you probably have a good shot at a cure, but it is cry form take my word for do not mess around
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I don’t understand the concern of the Dana Farber doc regarding SBRT. There are publications with 5 and 10 year outcomes. Maybe longer term as well but I can’t look that up from where I am. Dana F is among the best; I am disappointed in that specialist.
Please do note that I am not advocating that SBRT is the best for you. Maybe get a consult elsewhere.
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There has to be more to the non-SRBT recommendation than is evident here. Some contraindicator or related factors that resulted in a non-SRBT recommendation. I've been treated by Dana Farber for well over a decade, and that includes SRBT therapy which they delivered to me 4 years ago.
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Thanks to @Old Salt and @Josephg for the questions and challenges. It is interesting to hear that another specialist at Dana Farber used SBRT. I am going to ask my radiation oncologist for more details on why he does not use SBRT. After reading @Steve1961’s bad experience with radiation, my head is spinning. I asked my doctor team if they saw any cribiform in my biopsy sample and they said no. I had a Decipher test and expect results tomorrow, which will help inform decision. Thank you!
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my in-laws is 70 he had PSA of 7.5 Gleason score 73+4 non agressive .. five weeks of SBRT no ATT no break therapy but yes a space oor going on about a year and his PSA is almost down to zero. He had no side effects whatsoever so here’s my opinion in law went to a private radiologist in San Francisco that all he did is radiation for men only specialized in it. I was referred to him. He told me to do surgery so I had another docto Tell me you can do radiation anywhere, but I would go to a place that specialize in it and I think they’re right, I went to major hospital UCSF San Francisco great day after day always waiting. They were always not on schedule having to see very sick people all the time had four or five different radiologist one patient breast cancer one patient stomach cancer one patient brain cancer next patient prostate if you have a private radiologist in your area I highly suggest you go and use them with a specialize in radiation for the prostate only , private practice valet parking not hospital always on time coffee tea, water light music waiting room had a pool table and a guy did a great job. Don’t know if a lot of places have private radiologist though this is San Francisco. Good luck with your choice ..i like I said if I could go back, I would do surgery in a heartbeat you go in surgery is done You’re out the next day catheter a week later 60 days later you know if you’re cancer free or not you don’t have to play the waiting game for 45 years always wondering if it worked, but thats just my opinion
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