Endometrial SEROUS carcinoma
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Hi, I’m really sorry to hear about the recurrence. I wonder if your oncologist has considered dostarlimab? (Jemperli). I am taking that, but am not familiar with the others you mention. Have been taking the dostarlimab since my third carbotaxol chemo cycle which was about a year ago, and as maintenance since last chemo in early Sept. dostarlimab is being trumpeted as “game changing” particularly for those with MMR deficient tumors.
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I wasn't aware of Jemperli. I'm guessing we must have different types of endometrial cancer? Idk but that would be a good question for me to ask. Thank you for caring enough to take the time to ask. I'm getting my port reinstalled next Tuesday and start the immunotherapy/Lenvima Wed. Please keep in touch!
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I am on dostarlimab (generic JEMPERLI ) for endometrial serous carcinoma. About a year ago in 2023, It was approved by FDA as first line immunotherapy along with carbo/taxol chemotherapy for first time treatment especially for dMMR. Keytruda is now used for recurring endometrial cancer. That is my understanding from people in treatment I met in another support group.
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oh, this was just published. Cool. Doesn’t address everything but a good read
https://www.medscape.com/s/viewarticle/gynecologic-oncology-update-endometrial-cancer-treatment-2024a1000bd5?ecd=WNL_trdalrt_pos1_240622_etid6617329&uac=397538PG&impID=6617329
From the comments, some clarification re dostarlimab/jemperli protocol and other specifics as@applies to me per my with tumor characteristics which may or may not be same as any of you. I have/had the serous variant, stage III c. Triple negative so not HER positive, but also dMMR tumor. Jemperli deemed usable for any stage III, IV or recurrent uterine, but esp. now standard protocol for MMR deficient tumors. Therefore, ideal for me. I do not know if it was the dostarlimab, which was added in cycle three of my chemo, but I was cancer free per PET and bloodwork at end of my Brachyotherapy, which followed the external radiation, which followed the brachy. So in remission as of November. Good so far. Signatera tests on regular basis with my bloodwork and those and last CAT OK. So I am now 9 months post end of chemo. Just wait and see.Talked to doctor Tuesday to press for reasonable expectations on timelines to counter the constant hopeful vagueness. She said in her clinical experience, for people like me recurrence occurs, and within Two years. However, how the dostarlimab may change that outcome is unknown. I’m first generation taking it post approval and clinical trials, so it will be good info for my clinical team to follow.
I would like to hear comparable detail from the rest of you in characteristics of your tumor and treatment with timelines. Obviously I would love to follow anyone else who is first generation Jemperli and with dMMR tumor.
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dkbbnj - I was diagnosed with endometrial serous carcinoma pMMR last June 2023. The chemo platium/taxol didn't work for me, so they put me on Keytruda and Lenvima. I cannot tolerate the standard dose of Lenvima because of my blood pressure, so I've been reduced to 4mg. As time has gone on, I'm more fatigued and my abs are painful. I understand that's a common side effect of Keytruda. I won't have my first scan until the end of July to see if it's working at all. I didn't have radiation. I took IVM before chemo therapy but have not reintroduced it into my host of supplements and herbals.
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Thank you so much for responding! Please lmk what you're scan shows at the end of this month, whether good or bad. At this point for me, like I've said before, I'm giving this immunotherapy and Lenvima a chance but this is my second recurrence so I kinda feel even if I have a clear scan, instead of waiting to see if the cancers gonna come back again, I think I would like to try a combination of IVM and Fenbendazole. Have you heard of that? It's a dewormer. I was put in contact with someone in Oklahoma that I don't know that told me he took a combo of those two and after 2 and a half years is cancer free after being sent home to die basically after immunotherapy did not work for him. It's so stressful to know the right thing to do. Whether to you trust your doctors recommendations knowing they do have to make money and are not able to recommend anything not FDA approved. I've debated whether to take those along with my treatment but I'm afraid they could affect the efficiency of the Keytruda/Lenvima so I'm holding off for now but I'm still not sure if I'm doing the right thing or not. Again, please lmk what your next scan shows. We can all learn from each other.
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I think it's all an educated guessing game as to what chemical cocktail works for each of us. I've heard stories of IVM and Fenben treating cancer, but it's the same thing - what types of cancers do these drugs work best with? So you have to do your research. My oncologist is pretty open when I ask him if I can take any alternative drugs, so maybe yours will be too. I take lots of herbals and all they ask is for me to hold off a day or 2 before and after treatment days. I found 2 studies taking place at the University of Kentucky for prostate and ovarian cancers using artemisia annua and decaf coffee. I was already taking artemisia annua from my herbalist, and I have a local coffee shop where I already drink their organic non chemical decaf, (they make it by the growler too), so I did some more research on their research, talked to my herbalist and decided to do it! Along with my conventional treatment. The only difference from what I was already taking is to pulse the doses of the artemisia annua, where I had only been taking it monthly. One week on, one week off. I'm hoping that the future of cancer care, or any disease, would be a combination of conventional treatment, lifestyle changes, and alternative treatments. My blood work has been spot on thru chemo and thru this current keytruda/lenvima treatment and I can't help to contribute it to my alternative treatments and lifestyle changes… and prayer, of course! Today was my 5th round of Keytruda, and I will have one more round before my CT Scan on the 29th. My NP gave me a prescription for dicyclomine to see if that helps with my abdominal pain. I hope it helps and doesn't cause "other" issues! Best of luck with your decisions! I know it's hard.
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Thank you so much for sharing your research and journey. That's exactly why I'm on this site to learn from others. I hope that medication helps with your abdominal pain. You've given me a couple of other avenues to check into. Thank you very much! Again, please lmk about your upcoming CT scan.
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Hey, I hope you are doing well! I wanted to ask if you would mind sharing your recent CT results. I hope and pray every cancer cell was gotten!! I'm having my 3rd immunotherapy treatment Wed. I've been having some issues with Lenvima. In fact, today my oncologist told me to stop taking it. She wants me to start taking thyroid med cause my tch level is elevated. She also wants me to have my blood pressure med raised for a second time cause it's still too high. Also, still having diarrhea issues but most of all, I developed sores on my feet! I think they're gonna restart me on Lenvima after I get these other issues addressed but maybe a reduced dosage. That's my latest update, I was just interested to know how your scan came out. Blessings!!
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I’d like to know status of everyone. After Serous Stage IIIc surgery and chemo with Jermperli last 4 cycles and maintenance since, external and internal radiation then officially remission since the Fall, last few weeks I had back to back positive signatera tests then elevated esonophils in most recent bloodwork. However, CT is clean. Care team seem to be saying, between the lines of so many “but there’s so much we don’t know” statements, that the cancer is coming back, it’s just a matter of time. No change to treatment schedule.
I am wondering if now is the time to seek a second opinion on how to handle things at this point. What do y’all think? Anyone you have worked with and recommend? I’m just a few hours drive from MD Anderson.
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I’m so sorry to hear this dk. On the 3rd round of treatment as you are, what a journey. Hopefully after stabilizing all these other things you can get back on your immunotherapy, maybe another drug? How are your tumor markers? Awhile back you said first recurrent was “a year later”. Would that be after conclusion of the internal radiation? So one full year of clean monitoring results?
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It's so good to hear from someone on here. I wish I had more knowledge to share with you on your situation. I mean I think why not get a second opinion and especially from MD Anderson if that is your gut instinct. I wish I could get a second opinion from there but my insurance doesn't cover there. As far as my situation, I'm still to get Keytruda but stopping the Lenvima for now. Oncologist said I would restart it at some point but maybe at a reduced dosage. I feel really stupid but idk what my tumor markers are. I've never had a tumor. I have cancer cells in my retroperitoneal lymph nodes. What are the tumor markers? This is my history... Hysterectomy 12/2021 for endometrial serous carcinoma stage 1, chemo Jan thru May 2022 out of precaution. Brachytherapy June 2022, again, out of precaution. I had a clear scan Dec 2022. July 2023 cancer cells in retroperitoneal lymph nodes so I had external radiation. Clear scan Dec 2023. June 2024 cancer cells in retroperitoneal lymph nodes and one other suspicious spot so started Keytruda/Lenvima at that point. I hate to even mention this because I can't find anywhere where it's for uterine cancer, but if I'm ever out of options, I'm gonna try ivermectin and possibly Fenbendazole. I've had a cousin tell me he knows two people with brain cancer taking Ivermectin along with their treatments, an aunt with ovarian cancer taking Ivm with her treatment, and lastly a friend in another state's 80 year old mother told me she knew someone who was telling everyone he knew about his story so I called him. He told me he had prostate cancer, did immunotherapy which did not work for him, in fact caused him to be legally blind, but who was basically out of options and sent home to die. He told me he took a half teaspoon of Fenbendazole 5 days/week and an ivm pill on the weekend. He said it took a little over 2 years but he now is cancer free and he wished he never did the immunotherapy. I'm still going with science for now but it is very compelling but like I said, I don't know of anyone whose taken these for uterine cancer. But if you Google "ivermectin and cancer" there's all kinds of info on it. I just don't totally trust Drs who are making money off of us and would not with these other meds that can be ordered and I know they legally couldn't recommend them even if they wanted since they're not FDA approved. I wish you the best on your journey and the cancer NEVER comes back!! Please stay in touch on whatever path you choose. I think we're all just floundering around trying to make the best decisions for ourselves but it's nice to see results from others that weigh into our decisions. Blessings
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Oh, and when I asked my oncologist about Ivermectin and I even asked my PCP to see if she would help me with dosage if I decided to take it, both said it could be hard on the liver so I am NOT recommending that you should take that or the Fenbendazole. I'm just telling you what I may try if/when out of options.
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thanks DK, thanks for responding! And for all that history and detail, it is very useful!! Information is sure one of the biggest challenges a cancer patient has, right? Sorry, by tumor markers I meant those tests that may be conducted periodically from bloodwork that indicate or may suggest a change in cancer activity. Tumor marker is not the best term for them all really. For me they test for (1) levels of CA 125 in my blood, I don’t think it has directly to do with my cancer but rather signals a change which could mean my cancer is moving. My levels have been more or less the same since before any treatment, so I’m not sure what it really means for me. In contrast, my (2) Signatera test looks in my blood for cells of my previously removed cancerous tumor. Just after my surgery to hopefully remove all the cancer, the level was a tiny positive value, and has been negative since, until just recently. A small amount, but there. So it is circulating in me trying to do something, even though my CT scan recently was clear.
I haven’t even talked to insurance yet about gett8ng the second opinion, I guess that’ll be my next call.
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Yeah, I don't really put much value on that CA 125 test. My number has always been below 35. My highest was 20 and they just tell me "That test may not be a good marker for me". I've only been off that Lenvima pill for 3 days and my blood pressure is dropping and I've only had diarrhea once today and I just feel better. I hope they get me on the right dosage or switch to something else. I'm sorry you're having to worry about a recurrence. This is just all so scary! If you get a second opinion or get any new information, please share!! Thank YOU for responding! Every since I sent my comment yesterday, I've worried if I should have put all that about the alternative medicines out there. I'm probably gonna get kicked off this site! Lol I hope and pray for the best for you and everyone else on here. I'd love to read someone saying, "I had this serous carcinoma and am 5 years cancer free".
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