Side effects
Hi, I just had my second treatment of taxol, my nose has been bleeding off and on, my doctor says its dryness due to the chemo, I'm using a humidifier and saline naso gel but its not working.
Today I felt like giving up, I can't handle much more of this, its breaking me down mentally. I looked in the mirror and didn't see the person that I once was.
I'm 46, with her2 positive. Has anyone here experienced this?
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Hi pink sister no I have not. I have not started yet. I do remember visiting my family out in Santa Fe New Mexico getting several nose bleeds my brother had me take a little bit of Vaseline petroleum jelly put it just inside not deep, but just inside in my nose Helped immensely . please don’t give up there’s gonna be good days and bad days. Take a deep breath and if you don’t mind, I’m going to stop and pray for you your pink sister, wendy
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Hi ,Wendy
Thank you for your response and kind words.
Are you starting treatment soon?
I feel like I have lost control of my life and myself/body. I'm strong at spirit and usually handle things calmly but there is a breaking point.
I have to get 12 once a week taxol treatment, I have had two so far.
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Hello Narisha23,
It sounds like I your treatment plan is very similar to mine. I was diagnosed with HER2+ HR- invasive ductal carcinoma and extensive DCIS in my right breast. I had bilateral mastectomies in July 2022 and starter my Taxol (Abraxane)and Herceptin (trastuzumab)weekly treatments in August 2022. It took me longer than the 12 weeks to get my first stage of treatments due to neutropenia causing delays several times. I finished this round of chemo in Dec. 2022. I too had frequent nose bleeds but it never was a lot of bleeding. It did stop when I finished the Abraxane.
I feel for you at this stage knowing what you're facing as your treatment progresses. I did start losing my hair at about 3 weeks in. It is difficult to see how much chemo can change our outward appearance but rememer you are the same person on the inside and that's the person you need to be concerned about and take care of. Make sure to get all the rest you need, even if that means sleeping til noon! I honestly could sleep from the time I'd get home from my treatments, through the night and til about lunchtime the next day. Fatigue was one of my biggest issues, but when I allowed myself the rest my body needed, I found that I did much better the rest of the time.
Please talk to your providers with anything that is physically or mentally breaking you down, they will do their best to help you deal with not only the physical side effects but the mental drain that dealing with cancer and its treatments have on you. I am hoping you have a support system of family and/or friends that you can turn to when you get to feeling frustrated and beat.
I do want you to know that although it is a long and arduous journey, you will become more adept at dealing with this mess as time goes on. Also, I know 12 weeks seems like forever right now but try and look at each treatment as one step closer to the finish. Because of your HER2+ status, will you be having continued Herceptin treatments every 3 weeks after the first 12 weeks? If so, take heart that these treatments have seemed much more tolerable to me that the taxane combo. I mostly deal with tiredness after Heceptin treatments but not as profoundly as with the Abraxane/herceptin combo.
Please take care and don't lose hope.
Chris
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Hi Chris,
Thank you so much for your message, your words meant alot, yes it sounds like our diagnoses were the same, mine is stage 1A.
The medication regimen is also the same, taxol once a week and herceptin once every three weeks. Yes,I will be getting the herceptin after treatment every 3 weeks for one year. Was it your decision to have both berast removed? If I may ask. Mine is also in my right breast measuring 1 5mm. Yes, 12 weeks seems like a long time when you have to go through something like this, it feels like punishment. I did not tell my family, it only a small number of people that know, my boss ,a close friend and my boyfriend. I don't know how to tell my parents, I can't seem to say the C word. Support is definitely needed. I found out on January 10th, it was very difficult for me to absorb . I feel like the doctors treat us but do not really know how we feel? They are not the ones going through this , my oncologist shows compassion but I feel like for them its just another patient . I hope my nose bleeds don't get worse, did you experience it throughout treatment? The blood really scares me and makes me nervous. Did you wear the cold cap while on chemo?
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Hello Narisha23,
I completely understand why you see doctor's being somewhat impersonal. To us, this diagnosis was like a giant slap to the head, we were taken off guard by such disturbing news. Until someone else has stood in those shoes, regardless of how helpful and caring they try to be, they just will not understand what it feels like. Please know that the majority of oncologist and PA's truly do care about you and your disease. It is their life's mission to help those of us who've had the unfortunate circumstance of having cancer. I had an issue with my first onc and felt she was not listening to my concerns and we had an unfortunate conversation that lead me to seek a second opinion from a fellow oncologist. That was a very difficult thing to do, but I was glad I did. They certainly are not perfect, but we are better off seeking out caring, concerned friends and relatives for the emotional support that we crave.
As far as being intimidated by the "c" word.. don't allow it to have that power over you. Start calling it what it is, cancer, and share your diagnosis with those you feel safe with. Yes, there will be tears and fear from those you tell, but if they don't know you will be going through this alone.
Yes, I had nosebleeds on and off throughout my taxane treatment, but when I finished that the nosebleeds cleared up completely. I also had very achy legs, fluid retention, dry eyes and some mouth sores. These all cleared up as well. My biggest issue has been my vision, and I am seeing an ophthalmologist for this. I did not consider wearing a cold cap as the price was exorbitant. But, back in 1981, I had very good results from hospital provided cold head wear while being treated for non-hodgkins lymphoma. They discontinued that practice some years after that.
I know this is a difficult and intimidating disease to deal with, but try not to allow fear to take over. You are strong and will be able to do this. Enlist the help of friends and/or family whenever you may need help. They won't know what to do to help you, so tell them what you need... but please share what is going on with your family and friends.
Blessings,
Chris
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The nose bleeds can be scary, I had them for months. I used a cold water humidifier every day, drank at least a gallon of water plus additional liquids every day, but they came on quickly. Fortunately, my nose bleeds were during covid mask wearing but it was unnerving to see blood on a mask.
It stops after few months. I know that isn't good news but there is light at the end of the tunnel. I only had 10 of my 12 taxol treatments, - my side effects worried my oncologist so she stopped them.
Telling your parents won't be easy but they will be hurt and may be angry that you didn't tell them. I did not tell alot of my friends and two years later I am still dealing with their hurt feelings and anger. Be strong, and talk to someone, it helps.
Be strong and take care,
Michelle
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Hi Nakisha,
I m doing the same chemio with the same diagnosis as yours, did 7 infusions and my nose is bleeding, but not that much to create a real problem, for me the hands is the issue, the nerve pain is really bad, hang in there, you are not alone, we can do this :) I m considering stopping the chemio short for the nerve pain, and my oncologist is ok with that, talk to your doctor, see if there are alternatives for you as well.
Keep the updates coming :)
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I haven’t even started Taxol and I’m having nosebleed this morning years ago while visiting Santa Fe New Mexico. They told me put some Vaseline just inside of your nose not up inside ,in just inside and it helped because I was having terrible nose bleeds out there. I did this last night because I was having nose bleeds this morning. I’m fine matter fact last night nosebleed 2-3 minutes and I was fine
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